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Post by radioactiveman on Nov 27, 2021 5:15:59 GMT -5
According to the pdf versions of the box scores, the officials for Pitt vs Louisville were "Nathan Mahaven, Charles Fleet, Bill Kissell, Matt Martin" Tonight they were "April Fricke, James Kuziela, Timothy McKinnon, Barbara Zvonek"
You can't be friggin' serious.
Trying to dox an official because she/he didn't make a call your way?
Holy %*$#.
I don’t think you are quite clear on the concept of doxxing. Names of officials are public info. |
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Post by Wiswell on Nov 27, 2021 7:08:17 GMT -5
If history is any guide, set scoring will be about even until about point 20, at which point Wisconsin will open up a lead and win by 2, resulting in a very close sweep (if that's a real thing). 100%. Nebraska has even had leads post 20 the last several matches and are zero for everything. .. Pretty close. |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Nov 27, 2021 9:05:10 GMT -5
Dear Nebraska: Congrats on taking set one, you gave us a beat down! Hames may be your default player to blame, in the past I would agree, and for what ever reason she bugged me, but today I stand corrected and gained a newfound respect for her many subtle contributions on the court. Without Hames, the Huskers are losing three to four points per set with all the saves she produces. Hames picks up balls most could not, she digs crazy spikes, she sets great in system…. I use to underestimate her, fans blamed her, in reality she kept the Huskers in contention all season long. This match, including the beat down of set one, was all Wisconsin doing (or lack of!)! The ball control was atrocious, I’ve never seen a division one team that allows so many opponents easy down balls into kills. The passing is a major concern! You points scored off Orzol this time around made for a closer match, she was awful! I don’t know why Sheffield is afraid to bench her and have her mentally check back into the match. She was playing so poorly , I wondered if her puppy had passed away! Loberg hurts us more the people realize, I’ll just leave it at that. Dana finally stepped the F up! And finally, FINALLY after 4.5 years she runs front attacks, the 3-1 was a huge game changer. About f’ing time!! She still needs to run push 1, and back off one leg quicks. Demps needs to not just be the back row savior, you get her as confident in front row, like she has developed out of the back, and Badgers become that much more lethal. To make a FF run, serve receive needs to really improve. I’m tired of seeing Sydney having to run a marathon all match long — limit her out of emergency sets, and more in rhythm passes, and Badgers are very difficult to beat. Good luck in tourney, your destiny is truly in your hands. This is so wise. How many one armed ungettabke saves did Hames have? She has become the excuse for Husker fans. Her future? She will make a unbelievable coach. |
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Post by Badger Alum on Nov 27, 2021 9:41:25 GMT -5
Orzol must have had some bad Thanksgiving turkey last night because wow she was not good at ALL today Thank god for Dana. Grace put together a pretty nice performance as well offensively. I thought Orzol got a lot better passing after Set 1 and that played a key factor in WI being able to run their offense. That was really important. Especially in the rotation where it was Grace, Lauren and her passing. We really struggled passing in that rotation in Set 1. Orzol solidified that after Set 1. |
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Post by Badger Alum on Nov 27, 2021 10:14:20 GMT -5
I really thought this was an entertaining, fun match between 2 really, really good teams. I don't get all the negativity sometimes reading what some people post.
The reason the Badgers dropped Set 1 is obvious....their passing was terrible. Some of that is a credit to excellent Nebraska serves and serve pressure. In addition to the bad passing, Nebraska played nearly a perfect set. At one point late in the set I looked up at the scoreboard and Nebraska was hitting .600. Crazy. That's the best Set I've seen Nebraska play all year.
In my opinion, what changed in the 2nd Set was our passing started to improve. The biggest change to me was Orzol starting passing better. In the first Set, both Orzol and Loberg struggled passing. Shefffield made some adjustments and they worked too. As the set played out, the passing improved and Wisconsin was able to run their full in system offense which was a big deal. That was the difference in that Set.
The 3rd set was the key. The Badgers came out strong and I thought we might blow out Nebraska in that set but then we started passing poorly again. The difference between this set and the first set is we were able to stay in OOS vs getting aced.
By the 4th set, Orzol was passing really well and Loberg was even contributing and that's one of the reasons Rettke was so strong....Hilley got good passing and could run the entire offense. The Badgers are extremely strong when they are in system. That will be their key for the tournament. If the can pass like they did in the 4th set, it's going to be hard for any team to beat them. If they pass like they did in the first set, this Indiana match today will be a struggle.
I thought the Badger game plan was straightforward. They wanted to get a poor first pass and force Hames to set outside. By the 3rd and 4th set, I thought Sun really struggled. That was an effective game plan for the Badgers.
The refs struggled tonight. Those first 2 replays that Nebraska had to use were pretty obvious...especially the Hilley block. I'm not sure how those get missed. By forcing replay to get it right, it slows the game down, took the crowd completely out of it, and didn't allow either team any momentum. The down ref had 2 really bizarre calls on replay. I thought both should have gone the other way. At least they were one for each team so it didn't really factor in anything. But it seems odd that it takes that long to make a decision and then they missed it on both. There was a really blatant lift in the 3rd set they missed too. Just an off night for the refs.
Finally, I don't get all the negativity around Hames. I thought she played really well last night. She can set a good ball and her defense was really impressive. She made a play (I think it was the 3rd set) where she got to a ball on a second contact that I thought for sure was on the ground on the left side of the court. She came sprinting over from the right to get it off the floor and Nebraska actually won the point. I don't understand why people don't appreciate what a good player she is. Strange.
I'm thrilled the Badgers had a nice celebration at the end of the match. That was a big deal. Nebraska is really, really good and we just swept them again! And claimed the Big 10 title. Again! We got to focus on that last night. Now on to senior night and celebrate the best senior class in the history of Wisconsin volleyball. Good times!
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Post by ted_heise on Nov 27, 2021 10:31:29 GMT -5
I really thought this was an entertaining, fun match between 2 really, really good teams. I don't get all the negativity sometimes reading what some people post. The reason the Badgers dropped Set 1 is obvious....their passing was terrible. Some of that is a credit to excellent Nebraska serves and serve pressure. In addition to the bad passing, Nebraska played nearly a perfect set. At one point late in the set I looked up at the scoreboard and Nebraska was hitting .600. Crazy. That's the best Set I've seen Nebraska play all year. In my opinion, what changed in the 2nd Set was our passing started to improve. The biggest change to me was Orzol starting passing better. In the first Set, both Orzol and Loberg struggled passing. Shefffield made some adjustments and they worked too. As the set played out, the passing improved and Wisconsin was able to run their full in system offense which was a big deal. That was the difference in that Set. The 3rd set was the key. The Badgers came out strong and I thought we might blow out Nebraska in that set but then we started passing poorly again. The difference between this set and the first set is we were able to stay in OOS vs getting aced. By the 4th set, Orzol was passing really well and Loberg was even contributing and that's one of the reasons Rettke was so strong....Hilley got good passing and could run the entire offense. The Badgers are extremely strong when they are in system. That will be their key for the tournament. If the can pass like they did in the 4th set, it's going to be hard for any team to beat them. If they pass like they did in the first set, this Indiana match today will be a struggle. I thought the Badger game plan was straightforward. They wanted to get a poor first pass and force Hames to set outside. By the 3rd and 4th set, I thought Sun really struggled. That was an effective game plan for the Badgers. The refs struggled tonight. Those first 2 replays that Nebraska had to use were pretty obvious...especially the Hilley block. I'm not sure how those get missed. By forcing replay to get it right, it slows the game down, took the crowd completely out of it, and didn't allow either team any momentum. The down ref had 2 really bizarre calls on replay. I thought both should have gone the other way. At least they were one for each team so it didn't really factor in anything. But it seems odd that it takes that long to make a decision and then they missed it on both. There was a really blatant lift in the 3rd set they missed too. Just an off night for the refs. Finally, I don't get all the negativity around Hames. I thought she played really well last night. She can set a good ball and her defense was really impressive. She made a play (I think it was the 3rd set) where she got to a ball on a second contact that I thought for sure was on the ground on the left side of the court. She came sprinting over from the right to get it off the floor and Nebraska actually won the point. I don't understand why people don't appreciate what a good player she is. Strange. I'm thrilled the Badgers had a nice celebration at the end of the match. That was a big deal. Nebraska is really, really good and we just swept them again! And claimed the Big 10 title. Again! We got to focus on that last night. Now on to senior night and celebrate the best senior class in the history of Wisconsin volleyball. Good times! What a great assessment of the match, thanks so much for taking time to write up all of that! |
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Post by vollectator on Nov 27, 2021 10:46:34 GMT -5
Not a Nebraska fan per se ( great respect though), and I hope this is recognized as an objective discussion. If you look at this group of Nebraska outside hitters (they were all ranked near the top of their respective classes) and their hitting % this year, one can’t help but come away puzzled (or negative as some call it) by the obvious disparity, especially in light of the program’s recent success at developing outside hitters at the highest levels. I have two questions (without referring to any specific player). 1. Would Nebraska have fared better trading the superb defense at the setter position for a higher hitting % (say 5 percentage points)? 2. Would you be intrigued to see what essentially the same group of hitters could do with a different setter?
I wish Nebraska success in the coming tourney given none of teams are likely go very far!
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 27, 2021 11:11:22 GMT -5
Lol If this makes you feel better, it’s yours. All mine...thanks! I'm pretty happy with whipping Old Lady Hames yet again. I look forward to doing it again in the tourney should we get a chance. For God's sake at 40 I could put on my uniform and set a better ball than what you've had the last however many years lashes has been there. I don't know how you huskers have lived through her setting given the talent you have elsewhere. 🤷♂️ It’s hard to understand why you’d be trying so hard to Just be an absolute jerk. Congrats I guess. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 27, 2021 11:24:07 GMT -5
Yeah. Nebraska played an almost flawless first. I can’t remember the last time the badgers were aced 4 x in one set. And they were tooling the block left and right. I knew the badgers would get better, but was worried that the huskers would continue to play that error free.
The badgers adjusted and got some control of those parts of their game.
That was as well as I think I’ve seen Hames play so I also don’t get the complaints about her.
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Post by northwoods on Nov 27, 2021 12:47:17 GMT -5
Can't wait to see what Libero in the BIG decides to transfer to Wisconsin next season. Me either! I’m hoping Wisconsin re-loads with the next Barnes! First, she’s a really solid player, but watching Illinois posters burst out in spontaneous human combustion would be fun too… |
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Post by Badger Alum on Nov 27, 2021 12:50:36 GMT -5
Not a Nebraska fan per se ( great respect though), and I hope this is recognized as an objective discussion. If you look at this group of Nebraska outside hitters (they were all ranked near the top of their respective classes) and their hitting % this year, one can’t help but come away puzzled (or negative as some call it) by the obvious disparity, especially in light of the program’s recent success at developing outside hitters at the highest levels. I have two questions (without referring to any specific player). 1. Would Nebraska have fared better trading the superb defense at the setter position for a higher hitting % (say 5 percentage points)? 2. Would you be intrigued to see what essentially the same group of hitters could do with a different setter? I wish Nebraska success in the coming tourney given none of teams are likely go very far! I am not a Nebraska expert. But from what I have seen, setting is not their problem. Hames puts up a good ball. She's quick. Any issues they have with their outsides I have a hard time tracing back to the setter. I think Lexi Sun is a very streaky hitter. I've seen her play really well in some matches and poorly in others. She's such a polarizing topic I almost hate to bring her up. But last night it was obvious the Badgers were going after her specifically with their game plan. I don't think her issues last night had anything to do with the sets. I think the passing that eliminated some of the setting options really hurt Sun because the block was well formed. Just 2 cents. |
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Post by jwvolley on Nov 27, 2021 13:00:01 GMT -5
Not a Nebraska fan per se ( great respect though), and I hope this is recognized as an objective discussion. If you look at this group of Nebraska outside hitters (they were all ranked near the top of their respective classes) and their hitting % this year, one can’t help but come away puzzled (or negative as some call it) by the obvious disparity, especially in light of the program’s recent success at developing outside hitters at the highest levels. I have two questions (without referring to any specific player). 1. Would Nebraska have fared better trading the superb defense at the setter position for a higher hitting % (say 5 percentage points)? 2. Would you be intrigued to see what essentially the same group of hitters could do with a different setter? I wish Nebraska success in the coming tourney given none of teams are likely go very far! I am not a Nebraska expert. But from what I have seen, setting is not their problem. Hames puts up a good ball. She's quick. Any issues they have with their outsides I have a hard time tracing back to the setter. I think Lexi Sun is a very streaky hitter. I've seen her play really well in some matches and poorly in others. She's such a polarizing topic I almost hate to bring her up. But last night it was obvious the Badgers were going after her specifically with their game plan. I don't think her issues last night had anything to do with the sets. I think the passing that eliminated some of the setting options really hurt Sun because the block was well formed. Just 2 cents. With all due respect, that sort of conclusion is indicative that you don't watch enough of their matches. I don't think I've missed a viewable match of Nebraska's in the entirety of Nicklin's career there. She had a good match yesterday overall. There have been many nights where she's been the main culprit. |
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Post by robtearle on Nov 27, 2021 13:08:08 GMT -5
Yeah. Nebraska played an almost flawless first. I can’t remember the last time the badgers were aced 4 x in one set. And they were tooling the block left and right. I knew the badgers would get better, but was worried that the huskers would continue to play that error free. The badgers adjusted and got some control of those parts of their game. That was as well as I think I’ve seen Hames play so I also don’t get the complaints about her. Nebraska sided-out 13 of 14 chances in the first set. Two hitting errors, no service errors. Their first set was nearly perfect. On the one hand I was thinking "GULP!". But on the other, I was thinking "there's no way they can maintain that level of play." |
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Post by Wiswell on Nov 27, 2021 13:09:14 GMT -5
I will be glad when Sun and Loberg graduate so the people on this board can finally leave them alone.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 27, 2021 13:17:58 GMT -5
I am not a Nebraska expert. But from what I have seen, setting is not their problem. Hames puts up a good ball. She's quick. Any issues they have with their outsides I have a hard time tracing back to the setter. I think Lexi Sun is a very streaky hitter. I've seen her play really well in some matches and poorly in others. She's such a polarizing topic I almost hate to bring her up. But last night it was obvious the Badgers were going after her specifically with their game plan. I don't think her issues last night had anything to do with the sets. I think the passing that eliminated some of the setting options really hurt Sun because the block was well formed. Just 2 cents. With all due respect, that sort of conclusion is indicative that you don't watch enough of their matches. I don't think I've missed a viewable match of Nebraska's in the entirety of Nicklin's career there. She had a good match yesterday overall. There have been many nights where she's been the main culprit. She is “one” of the reasons this team isn’t great, not “the” reason. She wasn’t the reason they came up short yesterday. Great leader, great player, just a good setter. |
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