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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 11, 2021 11:54:34 GMT -5
I thought there'd be more Anna Kournikova types; obscure players from the end of the bench that look like models. You beat me by a minute. To be fair, Anna was decent at tennis. Hardly obscure
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Dec 11, 2021 11:55:08 GMT -5
Eh, I really haven't seen what Batenhorst brings that gives her the edge over Lexi. As a freshman, Batenhorst is at or equal to the production of a sixth-year former All-American. This isn't rocket science. You play the freshman in that scenario every time. Slightly below, but yes the experience for Batenhorst factor likely tips the decision in her favor. Good "problem" to have for sure.
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Post by vbprisoner on Dec 11, 2021 12:12:09 GMT -5
Cook would be playing her more if she was playing better. Court time is all about production. Eh, I really haven't seen what Batenhorst brings that gives her the edge over Lexi. She's like a Major League pitcher that specializes in change-up pitches... She swings really hard and after she connects on an attempted kill shot the defense isn't prepared for that marshmallow headed their way! LOL
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Post by azvolleydad on Dec 11, 2021 12:15:28 GMT -5
This is awful. There are going to be players who aspire more to make this list than an All-American list. If those players exist, and I'm skeptical that they do, they probably were never going to be all Americans anyway. So who cares. you don’t know how much today’s 15-18 year olds care about their social media presence
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 11, 2021 12:17:53 GMT -5
If those players exist, and I'm skeptical that they do, they probably were never going to be all Americans anyway. So who cares. you don’t know how much today’s 15-18 year olds care about their social media presence Uh, yes I do.
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Post by azvolleydad on Dec 11, 2021 12:19:07 GMT -5
you don’t know how much today’s 15-18 year olds care about their social media presence Uh, yes I do. volleyball players aren’t immune from this phenomena
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Post by Phaedrus on Dec 11, 2021 12:31:19 GMT -5
This is awful. There are going to be players who aspire more to make this list than an All-American list. I have kind of wondered if that is partially why Cook has relegated Lexi Sun to a part time roll this year. To punish her? He was the one who convinced her to stay and not turn pro after the spring because she would be making bank because of the NIL. You have to credit the man for his foresight in that regard.
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Dec 11, 2021 12:32:05 GMT -5
If those players exist, and I'm skeptical that they do, they probably were never going to be all Americans anyway. So who cares. you don’t know how much today’s 15-18 year olds care about their social media presence That's why he said it's awful.
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 11, 2021 12:35:08 GMT -5
volleyball players aren’t immune from this phenomena Of course they aren't. But those who care more about being marketable than being an all American weren't going to be all Americans anyway. And maximizing marketability certainly hasn't hurt elite athletes in volleyball or other sports. You can do endorsements while achieving athletically.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Dec 11, 2021 12:49:58 GMT -5
This is awful. There are going to be players who aspire more to make this list than an All-American list. If those players exist, and I'm skeptical that they do, they probably were never going to be all Americans anyway. So who cares. They do exist and they were All-Americans at one point…
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 12:58:15 GMT -5
how did Samedy not make it Samedy should get some deals, as photogenic and well-spoken as she is. But it's a different market in the Twin Cities than Lincoln, or even Austin. I can only imagine how much the Tapp's could have made, were NIL available to them. The entire 2016 Gopher roster would have made a killing.
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 11, 2021 13:03:37 GMT -5
If those players exist, and I'm skeptical that they do, they probably were never going to be all Americans anyway. So who cares. They do exist and they were All-Americans at one point… Ignoring that whoever this person is did, in fact, become an All-American: Name one.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 11, 2021 13:18:16 GMT -5
I think the poster saying it’s awful is talking about Lexi Sun, aka former AA now making bank from endorsements and would rather be on this list.
I hate to defend her, but let’s be real. She worked her ass off to be an all American and Gatorade player of the year. Sacrificed more than your average student, and was the poster child of not one, but two elite programs. If she wants to cash in on that, let her without being snide or judgmental.
I was against this whole NIL thing before it passed, but it’s here and can’t fault players for cashing in. By and large, these are all top athletes who we’d be following For their volleyball prowess anyway. If they want to sell tennis bracelets to fans, what’s the issue?
Lastly, Lexi isn’t benched because she’s suddenly posting on Instagram, that’s just ridiculous, especially when you look at the rest of the list. And if that were the case who cares? Don’t buy the bracelet from the girl on the bench, that’s your choice too.
If a player wants to fake their way onto the top endorsement list by sacrificing in high school to land a D1 gig, going through 2-a-days in training, and showing up to a D1 gym every day JUST to hawk some smoothies or jewelry, who cares?
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Post by vbcoltrane on Dec 11, 2021 13:22:09 GMT -5
for VB, I'd think that at the college level the bulk of the endorsement opportunities would be localized in communities that really support their college VB team - like Nebraska players in Nebraska. I can't think of many players who would have national pull. Flip side, a company can always take a chance and introduce a player or players more broadly, hoping that having high-achieving, charismatic players will benefit the company, even if many viewers don't know who they are.
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Post by bayarea on Dec 11, 2021 13:31:19 GMT -5
This was an LA Times story yesterday:
NCAA RULE CHANGE College athletes cashing in going better than expected By Leigh Steinberg
We didn’t quite see this coming. Before the NCAA began to allow endorsement deals this summer, many people in the industry assumed that high-profile male athletes from major programs would be the prime beneficiaries, but the impact has been much broader.
Maxim Bets offered a deal to every female student- athlete in Colorado over the age of 21. Sixty football players at San Diego State signed with a moving company called College Hunks Hauling Junk & Moving. Deals for “name, image and likeness” have even spread to high school players. This fall, 17-year-old basketball player Mikey Williams, represented by a marketing agent, signed a pact with Puma to promote its apparel and shoes. The NCAA has allowed endorsement deals only since July 1, and as an agent I’ve never seen such a rapid transformation as the switch from strict amateurism to athletic empowerment. There are certainly risks to allowing college athletes to hire marketing agents and sign commercial deals, but it is a long overdue change for the better.
For years many athletes from less affluent backgrounds have sent part of their scholarship check home to their families and tried to get by on very little. Unlike their peers, athletes could not work to supplement their income. Those at schools in expensive areas, like USC and UCLA, found the cost of housing, transportation and food more than they could handle. Meanwhile they saw the packed stadiums and arenas, read about lucrative television contracts and saw their jersey number sold in the student store — all enriching the university and its business partners, but not the player. Under the old system many athletes still found ways to get around NCAA regulations, by taking under- the-table payments from agents and alums. Others left college without graduating, to pursue a career in professional leagues.
The hope now is that student-athletes will feel less pressure to jump early to the pros, if they can cash in on their brand while remaining in school. Since the rule change, there have been thousands of deals made by athletes and companies across the country. It’s not just the high-profile, like Alabama’s firstyear starting quarterback Bryce Young, whose coach announced that multiple deals had netted the player almost seven figures. It’s also not just men who are benefiting. Athletes at the University of Texas have signed more than 175 deals, including 33 for softball players and 17 for volleyball players. Phil Knight, co-founder of Nike, joined with other University of Oregon boosters to create a company to help any student-athlete at the school capitalize on name, image and likeness revenue.
Some companies are winning publicity just for how they’re choosing student- athletes. Jack in the Box is giving $5,000, as well as $500 in food credits, to a handful of college athletes with some variation of “Jack” in their name. Sam’s Club is picking 10 student-athletes named Sam to receive $10,000 each.
The cash is being spread around more widely than expected, but there’s still a risk of disparities causing trouble. If a college quarterback is making millions while the athlete blocking for him has no deals, this undercuts the concept of team.
Finally, although there may be less chance now of under-the-table payments, booster money may yet shape college athletics in another way as wealthy alumni use their businesses to make name, image and likeness deals with certain players, giving those schools an advantage and also potentially distorting decisions by the program and the coach.
There’s a lot yet to work out in this new era, but the early results are encouraging. We haven’t seen the concentration of deals that many feared, and that means more student-athletes will have a chance to reap some rewards while also completing their degrees.
Leigh Steinberg is a sports agent, philanthropist and author. © 2021 Los Angeles Times. Distributed by Tribune Content Agency.
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