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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 18, 2022 7:33:21 GMT -5
4.) No Bergmark, I say maybe we would’ve put Phillips in the middle and let Devin play right side. Tried to keep Singletary’s redshirt if we could. By the way, I’m not sure how many people saw her in the 6v6 pre-game warmups this weekend, but she is a STUD. Like wow level good. And she seems like such an amazing teammate! I’m hoping Asjia talked with her and asked her if she’d leave if she came back. She’ll still have three years of starting, and while I think it’s unlikely she beats Bergmark out, she could. I’d be devastated if we lost her because she didn’t start this next year. 6.) I hope so🥹 especially Bergmark who should be starting full time next year Regarding Singletary, I think he'll start her ahead of Bergmark purely because of the future, besides the fact that like you say all reports coming out from practice indicate she's got great potential. JE has to show recruits (Nya Bunton) and first year players that if he redshirts you, it's for a reason and that you'll be rewarded for your patience. Now saying that, I remember Orie Agbaji seeing her future go past her over her 4 years at Texas. |
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 18, 2022 7:38:10 GMT -5
BTW uofaGRAD it's been great having you on the Texas threads. Insightful commentary on the college team side of the discussion (which no college player VT-lurkers will admit to). Plus, your access to VB metrics and the data you provide make you extremely popular.
[now please stoke our afterglow with passing numbers for the littles in the NC game]
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Post by ted_heise on Dec 18, 2022 7:56:43 GMT -5
a good player does not make a good coach. UH current program is proof of that Neither does a Head Coach, who has to get a lot of transfers, just to win a National Championship. Talk about a bought one. Can Elliot even develop players, that is a BIG QUESTION. By all appearances, the Texas team culture and chemistry was outstanding this year. Certainly player leadership is an important factor in that, but it doesn’t happen without great coaching. I’d add that having a number of talented transfers just makes it harder to meld them into a cohesive team. Clearly, Coach Elliot was successful in this. |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 18, 2022 8:05:01 GMT -5
BTW uofaGRAD it's been great having you on the Texas threads. Insightful commentary on the college team side of the discussion (which no college player VT-lurkers will admit to). Plus, your access to VB metrics and the data you provide make you extremely popular.
[now please stoke our afterglow with passing numbers for the littles in the NC game]
absolutely! and thank you! I was a longhorn before anything🥹 very few teams come even close to how hard to root for Texas volleyball (in fact, I’m not sure there is one). that being said! what you’re all here for: Halter: 2.50 (11 attempts) Skinner: 2.50 (2 attempts) Akana: 2.19 (18 attempts) Fleck: 2.00 (15 attempts, she was trying to poach everything) Eggleston: 1.80 (10 attempts) Fleck made them pass a 1.62 Akana: 1.73 Skinner: 1.75 Eggleston: 1.86 O’Neal: 2.20 SKT: 2.56 so we outpassed them 2.14 to 1.91 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2022 8:11:07 GMT -5
Sliding door question 2:
If we say that Fields out = Skinner in, would the results have been the same for this year?
I think I answered them all but I might have missed one lol. Them all being different posts made it harder to keep track of them. But anywho here’s my two cents. 1. I think SKT would have won that battle for a few reasons. Mainly height and attitude. 2. You can’t win with a 5’6 setter 3. No and I can go into detail. 3b) Fleck is a difference maker wherever she goes. 2020 would of been way different. 4. I kind of think he would of moved Molly to middle and had Devin play OPP since he was planning on playing Devin some anyway. That way he saved Mariana’s RS and got to see if Molly was better suited for MB or OPP cause I have a weird feeling 2023 is going to be an interesting battle for pins. Lol 5. I think JE would of went after Akana had Iosia stayed. Her ball control and serve are better. But I also don’t think Iosia would of stayed either way. She wanted something different and I hope she’s really enjoying Michigan State. 6. I don’t think either one of them were surprised by the run Texas made. Texas is always in contention for the title. It’s not like we were some team that had a Cinderella story. |
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Post by ted_heise on Dec 18, 2022 8:12:14 GMT -5
Nebraska is transfer U and… Wtf are you talking about. Wait, what? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2022 8:16:34 GMT -5
Now I have this question for all of y’all. Do you think the big “culture change” had anything to do with certain players leaving last year. Do y’all feel as if there were certain personalities that didn’t mesh and cased issues on the court? Or do y’all think that having a experienced upper class is what led to the change that JE and staff keep talking about?
Please do not attack any of the SA.
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Post by ted_heise on Dec 18, 2022 8:21:17 GMT -5
Now I have this question for all of y’all. Do you think the big “culture change” had anything to do with certain players leaving last year. Do y’all feel as if there were certain personalities that didn’t mesh and cased issues on the court? Or do y’all think that having a experienced upper class is what led to the change that JE and staff keep talking about? Please do not attack any of the SA. Courtney spoke at some length on the broadcast about Logan encouraging Madi to transfer so she could help build a better culture, so it sure has that feel. |
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Dec 18, 2022 8:24:23 GMT -5
Now I have this question for all of y’all. Do you think the big “culture change” had anything to do with certain players leaving last year. Do y’all feel as if there were certain personalities that didn’t mesh and cased issues on the court? Or do y’all think that having an experienced upper class is what led to the change that JE and staff keep talking about? Please do not attack any of the SA. Absolutely and it’s been hinted at a couple times this season. You had some players who’s personal gain was more important than the team and some players who weren’t open and welcoming to certain transfers. Then you had players who didn’t play backing up the toxic mess that was spreading. When you get players like Fleck, Skinner, Bergmark, Ewert, Akana, and Caffey who are all selfless to go along with O’Neal, Eggleston, and Phillips it just becomes a recipe for success. To put it in simple terms, everyone who left needed to leave and everyone who came in needed to be here. I’m glad O’Neal and Phillips are returning that way we can keep up this great culture and pass it on to the next group. |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 18, 2022 8:24:45 GMT -5
Now I have this question for all of y’all. Do you think the big “culture change” had anything to do with certain players leaving last year. Do y’all feel as if there were certain personalities that didn’t mesh and cased issues on the court? Or do y’all think that having an experienced upper class is what led to the change that JE and staff keep talking about? Please do not attack any of the SA. I think there were players on the team with different goals than others. Skylar, for example as slxpress touches on, has individual goals now. That is 1000% okay. Not every student athlete should or needs to go to the top schools just to win. Skylar wants to try and develop to be a six rotation player. She wasn’t going to get that opportunity here, so she left. Iosia was the same. I thought a year behind Fleck would’ve been GREAT for her and her ball control, and I was super excited for her to possibly be able to run a full offense in her three rotations whenever our setter dug the ball. She wanted to be a libero now though. So she left. Can’t blame her for that. I also think outside of that, the vibe of the team is so different. It was all about our side of the net, which was great. Skylar and Jhenna could be very “across-the-net” players. Nothing wrong with some competitive stare downs and trash talk, but that’s not what this team was. That’s what Skylar and Jhenna are. Asjia was the only one with an occasional staredown really. This team was more about celebrating each other than past teams imo. I think Fleck played a massive part in that, with of course, the team rallying around Logan as well. |
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 18, 2022 8:52:15 GMT -5
Now I have this question for all of y’all. Do you think the big “culture change” had anything to do with certain players leaving last year. Do y’all feel as if there were certain personalities that didn’t mesh and cased issues on the court? Or do y’all think that having a experienced upper class is what led to the change that JE and staff keep talking about? Please do not attack any of the SA. When Logan said, "It's so much better having someone work with you instead of against you" I went WHOA!
If you've watched Texas long enough, there's always been one player who was a loner. A player who gave great contributions (kills), but was always doing her own thing or not willing to take up a leadership role in her last 2 years here. Not going to name names because, well it's not about dumping on people and they're long gone. Bye Felicia, thanks for the kills.
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Post by horns1 on Dec 18, 2022 9:06:14 GMT -5
One player leaving is oftentimes an opportunity for another player (whether that be an existing player or a new incoming player from high school or the transfer portal). I was so happy when Madi Skinner realized the opportunity which Texas could provide her. She has stated numerous times how her eyes about the Texas volleyball program were opened when she made her visit shortly after Christmas last year. And, after becoming a full-fledged member of the program, she has stated numerous times about the amount of support she receives from so many different areas at Texas; not sure if that means academically, medically, emotionally, etc. But, she's been a very vocal advocate for Texas volleyball in a very short amount of time. She might very well be the new face of the program now that our beloved Logan will move on from Texas; and, I think she has the maturity, personality, and talent to handle that; she's a two-time NCAA champion for crying out loud!
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Post by hornfanaustin on Dec 18, 2022 9:13:48 GMT -5
One thing to consider:
1. Lexi Sun transfers right after her freshman year. Wait....transfer you mean as in that evil portal thingie before it was called the portal? And she didn't have to sit out a year? And...wait she transferred to the holier-than-thou-do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do school? Tracks
2. Logan a junior in HS says, "Hey wait. Got a scholarship open now at Texas that I could use if I......took more courses and graduated one year early?" (her mom was also her HS guidance counselor)
3. COVID = +1 year bonus
4. Leading to key 5th year for the Captain to get Player of the Year and deliver 19 kills in the finals
Unhappy player + smart HS kid + pandemic that killed a lot of people = Honey Badger
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Post by texannexile on Dec 18, 2022 9:25:12 GMT -5
Now I have this question for all of y’all. Do you think the big “culture change” had anything to do with certain players leaving last year. Do y’all feel as if there were certain personalities that didn’t mesh and cased issues on the court? Or do y’all think that having an experienced upper class is what led to the change that JE and staff keep talking about? Please do not attack any of the SA. I think there were players on the team with different goals than others. Skylar, for example as slxpress touches on, has individual goals now. That is 1000% okay. Not every student athlete should or needs to go to the top schools just to win. Skylar wants to try and develop to be a six rotation player. She wasn’t going to get that opportunity here, so she left. Iosia was the same. I thought a year behind Fleck would’ve been GREAT for her and her ball control, and I was super excited for her to possibly be able to run a full offense in her three rotations whenever our setter dug the ball. She wanted to be a libero now though. So she left. Can’t blame her for that. I also think outside of that, the vibe of the team is so different. It was all about our side of the net, which was great. Skylar and Jhenna could be very “across-the-net” players. Nothing wrong with some competitive stare downs and trash talk, but that’s not what this team was. That’s what Skylar and Jhenna are. Asjia was the only one with an occasional staredown really. This team was more about celebrating each other than past teams imo. I think Fleck played a massive part in that, with of course, the team rallying around Logan as well. Insightful and well stated. Thank you |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Dec 18, 2022 9:27:16 GMT -5
BTW uofaGRAD it's been great having you on the Texas threads. Insightful commentary on the college team side of the discussion (which no college player VT-lurkers will admit to). Plus, your access to VB metrics and the data you provide make you extremely popular.
[now please stoke our afterglow with passing numbers for the littles in the NC game]
absolutely! and thank you! I was a longhorn before anything🥹 very few teams come even close to how hard to root for Texas volleyball (in fact, I’m not sure there is one). that being said! what you’re all here for: Halter: 2.50 (11 attempts) Skinner: 2.50 (2 attempts) Akana: 2.19 (18 attempts) Fleck: 2.00 (15 attempts, she was trying to poach everything) Eggleston: 1.80 (10 attempts) Fleck made them pass a 1.62 Akana: 1.73 Skinner: 1.75 Eggleston: 1.86 O’Neal: 2.20 SKT: 2.56 so we outpassed them 2.14 to 1.91 Dang. Our littles were something else this year….. the 3 players with the most receptions all passed above a 2. And Halter with 11 receptions passing a 2.5….. give her the jersey already🙌🏼 |
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