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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 6, 2022 11:18:53 GMT -5
If y’all listen to Cook during his Tuesday press conference or radio show, he has said Orr seems to be struggling with nerves. While you can blame this on a million things, in large part, she has not played college volleyball until the last 5 weeks and is playing in a 6-2 that really doesn’t give either setter a chance to get in a rhythm or feel comfortable….Cook said he was giving the keys to Orr, but he was not the one making a huge deal of it, that is on the media. Orr is a smart kid, she knows what Nebraska would be like when she signed her letter of intent. People didn’t like Hames her first year either…with how Cook talks about Orr, as recently as Tuesday he said she does things he’s never seen a Nebraska setter do, I still believe she can do what’s being asked of her. 6-2, 5-1, whatever. And if Hames wins the spot, or even Evans, so be it. But I believe in this kid and hope she can get past the mental battle she may be experiencing. No question she has the tools.
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Post by huskerfan on Oct 6, 2022 11:25:49 GMT -5
If y’all listen to Cook during his Tuesday press conference or radio show, he has said Orr seems to be struggling with nerves. While you can blame this on a million things, in large part, she has not played college volleyball until the last 5 weeks and is playing in a 6-2 that really doesn’t give either setter a chance to get in a rhythm or feel comfortable….Cook said he was giving the keys to Orr, but he was not the one making a huge deal of it, that is on the media. Orr is a smart kid, she knows what Nebraska would be like when she signed her letter of intent. People didn’t like Hames her first year either…with how Cook talks about Orr, as recently as Tuesday he said she does things he’s never seen a Nebraska setter do, I still believe she can do what’s being asked of her. 6-2, 5-1, whatever. And if Hames wins the spot, or even Evans, so be it. But I believe in this kid and hope she can get past the mental battle she may be experiencing. No question she has the tools. Where does one find the link to these? usually someone posts them in this thread, and I just use that to get to them.
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Post by gobigred2003 on Oct 6, 2022 11:33:21 GMT -5
Just reading up about the typical convos of our setting situation. You all know where I stand, and after that MD game it's very hard to back up my push for a Orr 5-1. After that game it def isn't the case. But I'll continue to say it, if she figures it out, she will go down as one of the best. I mean she was one of the best ranked recruits ever, out of HS. She has the size, upside, defense, and IQ. Just really want her to get those hands back, it's been since her HS days... I've heard at this point she is struggling with confidence especially after the last game. I hope a spark is lit under her soon. I also heard that Hames is more than happy to be just chilling on the bench and watching/mentoring from aside. She really doesn't want to set. I would assume it will be awhile before she's back. Let's hope for a great clean game tonight and vs Mich!
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Post by vollectator on Oct 6, 2022 12:10:42 GMT -5
If y’all listen to Cook during his Tuesday press conference or radio show, he has said Orr seems to be struggling with nerves. While you can blame this on a million things, in large part, she has not played college volleyball until the last 5 weeks and is playing in a 6-2 that really doesn’t give either setter a chance to get in a rhythm or feel comfortable….Cook said he was giving the keys to Orr, but he was not the one making a huge deal of it, that is on the media. Orr is a smart kid, she knows what Nebraska would be like when she signed her letter of intent. People didn’t like Hames her first year either…with how Cook talks about Orr, as recently as Tuesday he said she does things he’s never seen a Nebraska setter do, I still believe she can do what’s being asked of her. 6-2, 5-1, whatever. And if Hames wins the spot, or even Evans, so be it. But I believe in this kid and hope she can get past the mental battle she may be experiencing. glad coach cook is not as quick to give up on Kennedi as some of us are on here. the decision to have Kennedi set and Nicklin DS was the right one not just for this year but also the next few, and you don't deviate from a major decision just because Kennedi's struggling with some mental blocks. with a player like Kennedi who has all the right tools, you have to give her room to make mistakes and to figure things out. i don't remember people not liking Nicklin her first year though.
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 6, 2022 12:14:37 GMT -5
Just reading up about the typical convos of our setting situation. You all know where I stand, and after that MD game it's very hard to back up my push for a Orr 5-1. After that game it def isn't the case. But I'll continue to say it, if she figures it out, she will go down as one of the best. I mean she was one of the best ranked recruits ever, out of HS. She has the size, upside, defense, and IQ. Just really want her to get those hands back, it's been since her HS days... I've heard at this point she is struggling with confidence especially after the last game. I hope a spark is lit under her soon. I also heard that Hames is more than happy to be just chilling on the bench and watching/mentoring from aside. She really doesn't want to set. I would assume it will be awhile before she's back. Let's hope for a great clean game tonight and vs Mich! are we sure she presently has the IQ to set a 5-1 for a team in serious contention to win a natty? I thought cook has said countless times that she still needs to learn how to run an effective offense as well as making better sets. running a theoretically good offense is almost entirely IQ, the ability to set a good ball is just training. clearly Orr has the physical capabilities of pretty much any other setter, so I would say right now the IQ part is one of the things actually pushing her behind Evans and hames
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Post by vergyltantor on Oct 6, 2022 12:17:10 GMT -5
No question she has the tools. Where does one find the link to these? usually someone posts them in this thread, and I just use that to get to them. Here are some places to find press conferences.
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Post by viqueen10s on Oct 6, 2022 12:56:15 GMT -5
This is the radio show from Tuesday. Coach Cook is the second hour.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 6, 2022 13:59:37 GMT -5
Just reading up about the typical convos of our setting situation. You all know where I stand, and after that MD game it's very hard to back up my push for a Orr 5-1. After that game it def isn't the case. But I'll continue to say it, if she figures it out, she will go down as one of the best. I mean she was one of the best ranked recruits ever, out of HS. She has the size, upside, defense, and IQ. Just really want her to get those hands back, it's been since her HS days... I've heard at this point she is struggling with confidence especially after the last game. I hope a spark is lit under her soon. I also heard that Hames is more than happy to be just chilling on the bench and watching/mentoring from aside. She really doesn't want to set. I would assume it will be awhile before she's back. Let's hope for a great clean game tonight and vs Mich! are we sure she presently has the IQ to set a 5-1 for a team in serious contention to win a natty? I thought cook has said countless times that she still needs to learn how to run an effective offense as well as making better sets. running a theoretically good offense is almost entirely IQ, the ability to set a good ball is just training. clearly Orr has the physical capabilities of pretty much any other setter, so I would say right now the IQ part is one of the things actually pushing her behind Evans and hames Well her pedigree coming in was impeccable. Her “IQ” isn’t the issue imo
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Post by viqueen10s on Oct 6, 2022 14:03:02 GMT -5
Agreed, I think her IQ is there and the physical injuries on top of nerves is the problem. Hoping she plays great tonight!
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 6, 2022 14:04:38 GMT -5
are we sure she presently has the IQ to set a 5-1 for a team in serious contention to win a natty? I thought cook has said countless times that she still needs to learn how to run an effective offense as well as making better sets. running a theoretically good offense is almost entirely IQ, the ability to set a good ball is just training. clearly Orr has the physical capabilities of pretty much any other setter, so I would say right now the IQ part is one of the things actually pushing her behind Evans and hames Well her pedigree coming in was impeccable. Her “IQ” isn’t the issue imo as we've all come to know, high school achievements can't really gauge how a player goes top the next level. yes, she played on that team the won the world championship or whatever it was, but this current Nebraska team would smack the crap out of that usa team so just because she looked good with them doesn't mean its going to translate. I thought she was the best high school setter ive seen since carlini, but it has not carried on into college at this point. Sun had a pretty damn high school pedigree too and didn't pan out the way many expected
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Post by staticb on Oct 6, 2022 14:14:49 GMT -5
are we sure she presently has the IQ to set a 5-1 for a team in serious contention to win a natty? I thought cook has said countless times that she still needs to learn how to run an effective offense as well as making better sets. running a theoretically good offense is almost entirely IQ, the ability to set a good ball is just training. clearly Orr has the physical capabilities of pretty much any other setter, so I would say right now the IQ part is one of the things actually pushing her behind Evans and hames As far as Elite college teams go, the Nebraska offense has to be one of the simplest. Teams know what Nebraska is going to do and can't stop it because they do what they do so well. (Mainly serve, pass and hit smart) Over the past decade, Nebraska has won an amazing amount of games with 70-80% of the sets being simple, safe high outside sets. I'm not saying that will cut it in the Final 4, but Orr can keep it simple and the Huskers can still win tons of games and go very far in the NCAAs with it. There's a lot of pressure playing for Nebraska, but she's on the right team as far as finding a system that will gain her confidence back. (The only concern is that she might not be an exact fit for Nebraska's system because she seemed to like to force tempo in high school)
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Post by radioactiveman on Oct 6, 2022 14:15:48 GMT -5
i don't remember people not liking Nicklin her first year though. That’s because it wasn’t during her first year. People have been ragging on her on this site for the past 4 years.
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Post by smartcookie on Oct 6, 2022 16:01:36 GMT -5
Hames has said that she's happy to help her team in any way they need this year. She will do whatever they would like her to do, whether that means being the starting setter, being a DS or sitting on the bench and cheering the team on. I think Hames is in Orr's corner and wants her to take the reins this year and succeed. Hames has talked about how it can be a lot of pressure setting for Nebraska. In Hames' words, if the setter has a bad day then everyone has a bad day. At the beginning of pre-season she said how she was excited for some of that pressure to come off her shoulders this year as she moves into the DS role.
Unfortunately, this means the pressure fell on Orr. I think part of the reason Evans is playing more freely than Orr right now is because there were no expectations for Evans to play very much when she walked on. As mentioned above, apparently things are clicking for Orr in practice - she didn't double at all this week in the practice gym...but the issue is having that translate onto the court when it's game time. Forget the 5-1, I just want to see her succeed in the 6-2...hopefully she can do it!
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Post by rjaege on Oct 8, 2022 6:42:17 GMT -5
IMO Orr is improving her game, not just setting, but serving, serve receive and defense. So I'm hopeful she can yet reach her potential. However, regression is real, so would not be surprised to see a set back or two. That's what I chaulk up the Indiana game to: regression.
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Post by jwvolley on Oct 8, 2022 6:57:21 GMT -5
IMO Orr is improving her game, not just setting, but serving, serve receive and defense. What do you mean serve receive lol Orr does not pass as she is a setter.
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