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Post by ted_heise on Nov 29, 2022 15:35:38 GMT -5
Absolutely. Was on a club team with Maddison Horn (USC) and the amount of coaches surrounding their courts in club was insane. I heard she turned a lot down based on academics alone. thanks lol I had no clue. maybe the covid year she wants to dedicate more to volleyball than she did her undergrad? there's not many institutions as highly regarded as northwestern that are better than them at vb. stanford (who doesn't need her at all) and GT seem like the only schools who can match northwestern academically with a better vb team (idk ab GT tho lolll). unless im missing something.... I think GT would be excellent for biomed.
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Post by maplespear on Nov 29, 2022 18:12:51 GMT -5
Thinking more about setting and Orr, she needs something to get her going, over that last wave. Will the incoming setter challenge her for the position and then we see the real Kenna? Could be something as easy as time and personal growth.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 29, 2022 19:41:34 GMT -5
Thinking more about setting and Orr, she needs something to get her going, over that last wave. Will the incoming setter challenge her for the position and then we see the real Kenna? Could be something as easy as time and personal growth. She’s been challenged by two setters the past year. I don’t think being challenged has kept her back.
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Post by gobigred2003 on Nov 29, 2022 20:02:46 GMT -5
Thinking more about setting and Orr, she needs something to get her going, over that last wave. Will the incoming setter challenge her for the position and then we see the real Kenna? Could be something as easy as time and personal growth. She’s been challenged by two setters the past year. I don’t think being challenged has kept her back. Yes, but no. I'd say she's been "challenged" last and this season, but nothing compared to what next summer and season is going to be like. The two setters that have been apart of challenging her are both older than her and she's still an underclassman, so at the end of the day she can probs somewhat live with not playing. I'm sure she has really wanted it and has pushed herself but the Reilly situation is a completely different aspect. With Hames out of the picture it really is going to be between Orr, who will be a junior, and of course the freshman in Reilly. Orr is going to battle for her spot not only starting-setter wise, but really for her spot on the team, because if she isn't playing next year, no way she stays. It's kind of do or die for her when Bergen gets here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 21:51:49 GMT -5
What has Nebraska done with Hames running a 5-1? 2 losses in the national title game, both in 5 sets and 2 regional final losses, 1 of them on the road. Pretty good ceiling if that is what it is. I was surprised we went to a 6-2 after Orr struggled early on. I do trust that Cook knows what he is doing. But has been a strange year with all the different combinations at setter. 3 times the charm?
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Post by willswims117 on Nov 30, 2022 10:44:10 GMT -5
What has Nebraska done with Hames running a 5-1? 2 losses in the national title game, both in 5 sets and 2 regional final losses, 1 of them on the road. Pretty good ceiling if that is what it is. I was surprised we went to a 6-2 after Orr struggled early on. I do trust that Cook knows what he is doing. But has been a strange year with all the different combinations at setter. 3 times the charm? If you watch the video above of Megan Miller’s service run, watch Nicklin setting. She is not the same setter she once was. Look how terminal Madi Kubik is with better setting.
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Post by volleyaudience on Nov 30, 2022 12:55:39 GMT -5
It seems like Nebraska has a history of, at times, helping a walk on become an All American. Who's on that list?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 13:22:19 GMT -5
If you watch the video above of Megan Miller’s service run, watch Nicklin setting. She is not the same setter she once was. Look how terminal Madi Kubik is with better setting. Feel like if Nebraska had a setter like Rousseau then Hord and Kubik would be much more terminal. Hope Orr or Reilly gives the Huskers some stability at the position
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Post by InfoBot on Nov 30, 2022 16:09:03 GMT -5
Given Nebraska's trouble with setting, how much better would the team be if Nebraska had opted to recruit Alexa Rousseau (2020) over Kennedi Orr (2021)? Of course, hindsight is 20-20, and Orr was an elite-level prospect, but Rousseau looks incredible when healthy and her dynamic playstyle would seemingly fit in seamlessly. Disclaimer: Not a Nebraska Stan I've been going back and watching old matches this week before the tournament starts and I personally don't think Rousseau is an elite setter from what I've seen the last two years. Sure she's tall and a lefty, but she's a fairly soft block and the ball doesn't come out of her hands very nicely. I don't know a lot about the team, but I look for Noordermeer to challenge for the starting role next year (she's already better from a back row defense perspective IMO). Do I think Rousseau is better 5-1 setter than Orr right now? Sure. But would she be if Orr hadn't torn her ACL in high school AND gotten hurt at Nebraska? She was the number one recruit and she would have been able to run a 5-1 through spring ball. I also think it's relative because Cook would have to justify benching a pin to let her play around, whereas NW couldn't even find three consistent pins this year. Rousseau (as can be seen watching Noordermeer get better from NW vs NE 1 to NW vs NE 2) benefits from getting to figure things out through play. We may never know Orr's ceiling (especially if she sits behind/shares time with Reilly next year). She's looked better recently, just being able to be on the floor more. Who knows what she'd look like if she'd have set all year in this 6-2, or even more so if she'd have set all year in a 5-1.
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Post by InfoBot on Nov 30, 2022 16:24:09 GMT -5
Alright y'all, I came here to ask about scholarships since people keep mentioning Nebraska in the "Transfer Portal Tea" threads. I was going to search to see if this info was already discussed but searching this thread for the word "scholarship" still nets 37 pages of results. 1) Volleyball gets 12 scholarship, but I'm not even sure how they're allocated right now? There are 14 on the roster but I thought I read/somebody told me Boesiger and Evans are walk ons and Mendelson was covered by WBB. I also know I saw that Hames won a Memorial Scholarship from the Athletic Department earlier in this year/know she's BIG in NIL and assumed she was't on one. Where am I mathing wrong? 2) Going on the premise that Hames was on scholarship this year, four departing seniors means four available but there are five incoming 2023s. Is somebody on a partial this fall or taking a paid on their own redshirt?
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Post by avid 2.0 on Nov 30, 2022 16:27:09 GMT -5
Alright y'all, I came here to ask about scholarships since people keep mentioning Nebraska in the "Transfer Portal Tea" threads. I was going to search to see if this info was already discussed but searching this thread for the word "scholarship" still nets 37 pages of results. 2022: Hames, Hord, Kubik, Knuckles, Rodriguez, Batenhorst, Kubik, Krause, Lauenstein, Allick, Orr (unused one/Anni) 2023: Rodriguez, Batenhorst, Orr, Krause, Lauenstein, Allick, Kubik, Jurvicius, Murray, Choboy, Jackson, Reilly
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 16:28:39 GMT -5
Given Nebraska's trouble with setting, how much better would the team be if Nebraska had opted to recruit Alexa Rousseau (2020) over Kennedi Orr (2021)? Of course, hindsight is 20-20, and Orr was an elite-level prospect, but Rousseau looks incredible when healthy and her dynamic playstyle would seemingly fit in seamlessly. Disclaimer: Not a Nebraska Stan I've been going back and watching old matches this week before the tournament starts and I personally don't think Rousseau is an elite setter from what I've seen the last two years. Sure she's tall and a lefty, but she's a fairly soft block and the ball doesn't come out of her hands very nicely. I don't know a lot about the team, but I look for Noordermeer to challenge for the starting role next year (she's already better from a back row defense perspective IMO). Do I think Rousseau is better 5-1 setter than Orr right now? Sure. But would she be if Orr hadn't torn her ACL in high school AND gotten hurt at Nebraska? She was the number one recruit and she would have been able to run a 5-1 through spring ball. I also think it's relative because Cook would have to justify benching a pin to let her play around, whereas NW couldn't even find three consistent pins this year. Rousseau (as can be seen watching Noordermeer get better from NW vs NE 1 to NW vs NE 2) benefits from getting to figure things out through play. We may never know Orr's ceiling (especially if she sits behind/shares time with Reilly next year). She's looked better recently, just being able to be on the floor more. Who knows what she'd look like if she'd have set all year in this 6-2, or even more so if she'd have set all year in a 5-1. Like your observations, and totally agree that Orr would be phenomenal if she hadn't gotten those unfortunate injuries. I don't think Rousseau is necessarily an elite setter, but I do have her around #3 in a weak Big Ten (behind Podraza and Haworth). Rousseau is most definitely not the most accurate setter - Podraza, Haworth, Noordermeer, and a few others have her beat there. Where she stands out is how she's the most difficult setter to read in the conference. She's very strong at setting backwards, has an efficient setter dump, and is great at getting the OHs, OPPs, and MBs involved in an unpredictable manner. In essence, she creates hitting lanes and solo blocks for hitters to target at a high rate. On the other hand, Noordermeer is impressively accurate with her sets; after 1 game to get warmed up, she may be the 2nd most accurate setter in the conference. However, you kinda know where the ball is going when Noordermeer is setting. Her style is actually more suited to feeding TTA (she hit above .300 in five out of eight Noordermeer games). All in all, since Nebraska has so many attacking options, yet none that are particularly terminal, I thought Rousseau would have unlocked different elements and improved the hitting efficiencies of Kubik, Hord, Krause, etc.
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Post by vergyltantor on Nov 30, 2022 18:42:55 GMT -5
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Post by ted_heise on Nov 30, 2022 18:50:40 GMT -5
If you watch the video above of Megan Miller’s service run, watch Nicklin setting. She is not the same setter she once was. Look how terminal Madi Kubik is with better setting. Interesting observation. I haven’t looked myself, but the point takes me back to the “Phoenix” nickname and the word that Tyler was completely breaking (burning) down her technique and rebuilding it. I don’t have impression that effort was successful, and it may have even had a negative impact overall.
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Post by slxpress on Nov 30, 2022 19:22:34 GMT -5
Alright y'all, I came here to ask about scholarships since people keep mentioning Nebraska in the "Transfer Portal Tea" threads. I was going to search to see if this info was already discussed but searching this thread for the word "scholarship" still nets 37 pages of results. 2022: Hames, Hord, Kubik, Knuckles, Rodriguez, Batenhorst, Kubik, Krause, Lauenstein, Allick, Orr (unused one/Anni) 2023: Rodriguez, Batenhorst, Orr, Krause, Lauenstein, Allick, Kubik, Jurvicius, Murray, Choboy, Jackson, Reilly So straightforward. I'm jealous.
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