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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 20, 2021 11:42:59 GMT -5
you didn’t move the goal post there, you moved the stadium. That’s a completely different conversation or argument and you should know that. The hire isn’t being questioned by anyone and that makes perfect sense to me. So you believe that the top priority and main reason for hiring an assistant is for stability? You may want to explore the concepts of player development and scoreboard. If you think it was too much work for Coach Cook, apparently, he decided that it wasn't (and it is his job). I never said that or anything close to that. Do I think staff continuity and stability are important? Yes I do as does anyone else who has the smallest working understanding of staff in any field. Cook has spoken publicly of the challenges and difficulties of hiring and developing née staff. I also noted that it’s an incredible amount of work, not too much work. Lastly it wasn’t Cooks decision for Tyler to leave it was Tyler’s and you can’t make someone stay because they gave a verbal agreement to stay and it’s common knowledge that Nebraska assistants when hired are asked to make a three year commitment which only makes sense. Cook decided nothing. I have no problem with you disagreeing, but your saying things I’ve never said or completely re framing arguments.
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Post by washedupvballr on Dec 20, 2021 11:57:23 GMT -5
Forgive me if this is a dumb question but.. is Tyler going to be the head coach of indoor or beach volleyball at the new school? Or both? As for that championship match.. im still looking proud of how the team fought hard in the 5th after being down like that. Im so sad for them and wish things had gone differently but if anything there will be a LOT of motivation to work hard to get there next year. My main concern is what am I supposed to do for fun now besides watch Husker volleyball and keep up on these forums. Im new here so maybe things get fun in the off season with will the insider gossip lol. Do we think Lauren and/or Lexi are going pro?
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Post by FreeBall on Dec 20, 2021 12:15:25 GMT -5
Does anyone have an ear to the ground as to what Nicklin, Callie, and Kayla are doing with their Covid year? I have no inside info, but I would be surprised to see any of them playing at Nebraska next year. The scholarship situation just seems too tight for any of them to continue having one. I would guess Kayla is definitely done, Callie is most likely done, and Nicklin could possibly use her COVID year at another school. To be clear, this is totally speculative on my part.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 12:19:28 GMT -5
Does anyone have an ear to the ground as to what Nicklin, Callie, and Kayla are doing with their Covid year? I have no inside info, but I would be surprised to see any of them playing at Nebraska next year. The scholarship situation just seems too tight for any of them to continue having one. I would guess Kayla is definitely done, Callie is most likely done, and Nicklin could possibly use her COVID year at another school. To be clear, this is totally speculative on my part. I agree. How weird it would be to see Nicklin in another uniform. She has been the face of Huskers for a long time.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Dec 20, 2021 12:20:07 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone can read the Husker press release with Tyler's and Cook's quotes and think there's anything but great respect for each other. There's no chance Cook is upset about this. He knows this is a necessary next step for Tyler's career, especially if he's going to have a shot at replacing Cook in a few years. If Tyler applies he'll be a strong candidate for the job, especially after running LBSU for a few years. We don't even know if he'd want the job, though. A lot can happen in several years. Sure, I’ll move heaven and earth (twice) to get you here, pay you a head coach salary, give you a head coach title, then Be all onboard with you leaving in a year to become a better head coach to be a candidate here? Does that make sense to you? Wouldnt the incredibly high salary and title, willingness to allow him be gone and fulfill Olympic obligations suggest he wanted some stability? Do you have any idea how hard it is to hire a top level coach, the amount of time and energy to develop staff continuity, train assistants how we it’s done at Nebraska? Exactly,
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Post by kidsker7 on Dec 20, 2021 12:27:43 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone can read the Husker press release with Tyler's and Cook's quotes and think there's anything but great respect for each other. There's no chance Cook is upset about this. He knows this is a necessary next step for Tyler's career, especially if he's going to have a shot at replacing Cook in a few years. If Tyler applies he'll be a strong candidate for the job, especially after running LBSU for a few years. We don't even know if he'd want the job, though. A lot can happen in several years. Sure, I’ll move heaven and earth (twice) to get you here, pay you a head coach salary, give you a head coach title, then Be all onboard with you leaving in a year to become a better head coach to be a candidate here? Does that make sense to you? Wouldnt the incredibly high salary and title, willingness to allow him be gone and fulfill Olympic obligations suggest he wanted some stability? Do you have any idea how hard it is to hire a top level coach, the amount of time and energy to develop staff continuity, train assistants how we it’s done at Nebraska? "Move heaven and earth"- a very gross exaggeration. "Give you a head coach title"- inaccurate. "be all onboard with you leaving in a year"- so you know what Cook thinks or are you guessing? Statement about desire for stability from the facts that you have stated is a big reach by you. Those facts tell me that he really wanted him, (and that was negotiated). "how hard it is to hire a top-level coach, amount of time and energy to develop staff continuity, train assistants how its done at Nebraska"- didn't Cook save a lot of work by rehiring Tyler who he knew was already qualified? In another post you stated that it is common knowledge that Cook asks for 3 years. Since you were not at the negotiations, and it was not written into the contract, common knowledge is something you want to believe, but has no concrete basis in this specific instance. What did I miss?
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Post by kidsker7 on Dec 20, 2021 12:32:10 GMT -5
I have no inside info, but I would be surprised to see any of them playing at Nebraska next year. The scholarship situation just seems too tight for any of them to continue having one. I would guess Kayla is definitely done, Callie is most likely done, and Nicklin could possibly use her COVID year at another school. To be clear, this is totally speculative on my part. I agree. How weird it would be to see Nicklin in another uniform. She has been the face of Huskers for a long time. LBSU and close to her sister at Pepperdine? She does have a romantic interest at Nebraska.
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 20, 2021 12:33:56 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone can read the Husker press release with Tyler's and Cook's quotes and think there's anything but great respect for each other. There's no chance Cook is upset about this. He knows this is a necessary next step for Tyler's career, especially if he's going to have a shot at replacing Cook in a few years. If Tyler applies he'll be a strong candidate for the job, especially after running LBSU for a few years. We don't even know if he'd want the job, though. A lot can happen in several years. I agree. That press release was a lot more effusive in its praise for Hildebrand that it had to be. I was really impressed by it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 12:38:28 GMT -5
I agree. How weird it would be to see Nicklin in another uniform. She has been the face of Huskers for a long time. LBSU and close to her sister at Pepperdine? She does have a romantic interest at Nebraska. Lol forgive me as I can’t imagine her a LBSU but that idea isn’t as far fetched as it was 48 hours ago I also thought about Pepperdine since her sister is there. What a change of scenery either way
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 20, 2021 12:44:27 GMT -5
Sure, I’ll move heaven and earth (twice) to get you here, pay you a head coach salary, give you a head coach title, then Be all onboard with you leaving in a year to become a better head coach to be a candidate here? Does that make sense to you? Wouldnt the incredibly high salary and title, willingness to allow him be gone and fulfill Olympic obligations suggest he wanted some stability? Do you have any idea how hard it is to hire a top level coach, the amount of time and energy to develop staff continuity, train assistants how we it’s done at Nebraska? "Move heaven and earth"- a very gross exaggeration. "Give you a head coach title"- inaccurate. "be all onboard with you leaving in a year"- so you know what Cook thinks or are you guessing? Statement about desire for stability from the facts that you have stated is a big reach by you. Those facts tell me that he really wanted him, (and that was negotiated). "how hard it is to hire a top-level coach, amount of time and energy to develop staff continuity, train assistants how its done at Nebraska"- didn't Cook save a lot of work by rehiring Tyler who he knew was already qualified? In another post you stated that it is common knowledge that Cook asks for 3 years. Since you were not at the negotiations, and it was not written into the contract, common knowledge is something you want to believe, but has no concrete basis in this specific instance. What did I miss? No interest in a pissing match with you, but I’ll respond to your points. Going to your admin and asking for what is a totally unprecedented salary, allowing them to leave to complete a job, that requires hiring you to move your volunteer into a part time assistant, giving them an advanced title is going way above and beyond to get someone hired. Thus “heaven and earth”. He did in fact give him an associate head coach title so I dont know what you’re talking about. It would be more than common knowledge that Nebraska assistants are asked for a three year commitment. How concrete you want to view that is of course your choice. I wish him luck, and am sure Nebraska will make a great hire.
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Post by volleyfan4321 on Dec 20, 2021 12:50:12 GMT -5
Does anyone have an ear to the ground as to what Nicklin, Callie, and Kayla are doing with their Covid year? I hope all three return for another season. GBR!
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Post by kurtndiego on Dec 20, 2021 12:53:39 GMT -5
Does anyone know if they used a medical redshirt this year for Orr? I can't think they wouldn't have used her at some point in the year if this wasn't the case.
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 20, 2021 13:10:30 GMT -5
Sure, I’ll move heaven and earth (twice) to get you here, pay you a head coach salary, give you a head coach title, then Be all onboard with you leaving in a year to become a better head coach to be a candidate here? Does that make sense to you? Wouldnt the incredibly high salary and title, willingness to allow him be gone and fulfill Olympic obligations suggest he wanted some stability? Do you have any idea how hard it is to hire a top level coach, the amount of time and energy to develop staff continuity, train assistants how we it’s done at Nebraska? "Move heaven and earth"- a very gross exaggeration. "Give you a head coach title"- inaccurate. "be all onboard with you leaving in a year"- so you know what Cook thinks or are you guessing? Statement about desire for stability from the facts that you have stated is a big reach by you. Those facts tell me that he really wanted him, (and that was negotiated). "how hard it is to hire a top-level coach, amount of time and energy to develop staff continuity, train assistants how its done at Nebraska"- didn't Cook save a lot of work by rehiring Tyler who he knew was already qualified? In another post you stated that it is common knowledge that Cook asks for 3 years. Since you were not at the negotiations, and it was not written into the contract, common knowledge is something you want to believe, but has no concrete basis in this specific instance. What did I miss? Well said. No matter how you want to dress it up, "associate head coach" is just another name for "assistant coach." And honestly, if you hire a highly desirable assistant coach, they will have other opportunities. And unless you're fortunate that the person you hire would rather be an assistant than a head coach for a long period of time, there's a good chance they'll leave to be a head coach. Nick Saban loses assistants every year, and he still keeps Alabama rolling.
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 20, 2021 13:15:50 GMT -5
LBSU and close to her sister at Pepperdine? She does have a romantic interest at Nebraska. Lol forgive me as I can’t imagine her a LBSU but that idea isn’t as far fetched as it was 48 hours ago I also thought about Pepperdine since her sister is there. What a change of scenery either way I could see Long Beach State. Hames put out a very positive tweet in response to Hildebrand being hired at Long Beach. As for Pepperdine, they already have a good setter in Isabel Zelaya, who is probably the second-best setter in the WCC behind Whitney Bower. However, if Hames was interested in going that route but didn't want to go to Long Beach, San Diego is in desperate need of good setter. They have a lot of talent.
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Post by ilikecorn on Dec 20, 2021 13:20:27 GMT -5
Lol forgive me as I can’t imagine her a LBSU but that idea isn’t as far fetched as it was 48 hours ago I also thought about Pepperdine since her sister is there. What a change of scenery either way I could see Long Beach State. Hames put out a very positive tweet in response to Hildebrand being hired at Long Beach. As for Pepperdine, they already have a good setter in Isabel Zelaya, who is probably the second-best setter in the WCC behind Whitney Bower. However, if Hames was interested in going that route but didn't want to go to Long Beach, San Diego is in desperate need of good setter. They have a lot of talent. <3 the Toreros!
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