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Post by pull3 on Sept 2, 2022 19:14:45 GMT -5
Anybody watching Jardine playing on the Big Ten Network? Shes gonna be a big star at Utah. I am hoping it won't go 5........
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Post by badgersinsix on Sept 2, 2022 21:58:03 GMT -5
Hitters have to get used to the sets of two different setters; timing, height of the set, etc etc. Another that really 'came home' to me this weekend was when there'd be a pass really tight to the net. Last year, when she was front row, Hilley would often jump at the net and 'save' them with a one-handed set back to a middle etc. But a setter can only do that when they are front row; otherwise it is a 'back row attack' and an automatic point for the other team. There were maybe three or four such balls last weekend that I remember where Izzy or MJ simply could do nothing to 'save' the pass. Likewise a setter going up to "joust" on an overpass; back row attack, automatic point to the other team. I expect there are others... Slight correction, back row setter are able to do what you first described - saving a tight pass by jumping and one hand setting it. Things that would make it illegal are: - sending the ball over the net when they contact the ball entirely above the net (illegal back row attack) - blocking an opponent’s attack when reaching above the height of the net (illegal back row block) Those two things often happen on a tight pass when an opponent goes up and a joust happens. In those situations, the back row player is at a huge disadvantage of a call going their way if the whistle is blown (pretty much the only way is for the opponent to contact the ball when it is completely on the other side of the net which rarely happens). So it’s more that it’s not worth it vs it not being legal for a back town setter to save those passes. Some setters are really good at doing that and you’ll see them still do it back row, especially in the men’s game. And there you have it. I say it rarely happens, but then Izzy goes up on one of these tight passes against MU and gets the point because MU reaches over the net and contacts the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 22:41:46 GMT -5
I wonder how Jade feels being the odd woman out.
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 2, 2022 22:42:58 GMT -5
Anybody watching Jardine playing on the Big Ten Network? Shes gonna be a big star at Utah. I hope so!
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 2, 2022 22:45:56 GMT -5
I wonder how Jade feels being the odd woman out. Unless, you know, they need her to come in when things were looking bleak and help them win a match over a ranked opponent!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 22:49:40 GMT -5
I wonder how Jade feels being the odd woman out. Unless, you know, they need her to come in when things were looking bleak and help them win a match over a ranked opponent! My post was a response to some pretty adament posters that Jade wouldn't be seeing the floor in this 6-2 offense and would be the 'odd woman out'.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 2, 2022 22:53:45 GMT -5
I wonder how Jade feels being the odd woman out. I suspect that there’s going to be nights where someone off the bench is going to need to don the cape and save the day. Tonight it was Jade providing the spark, and another day it might be Wrobel or Gregorski. Everyone’s gotta be ready to step up for that moment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 22:56:39 GMT -5
I wonder how Jade feels being the odd woman out. I suspect that there’s going to be nights where someone off the bench is going to need to don the cape and save the day. Tonight it was Jade providing the spark, and another day it might be Wrobel or Gregorski. Everyone’s gotta be ready to step up for that moment. Sorry but Jade is too good to ride the sidelines. As long as Franklin is subpar in the backrow Jade will be a regular participant.
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Post by pull3 on Sept 2, 2022 23:00:38 GMT -5
People are undervaluing Demps and overvaluing Franklin as it relates to the back row IMO. Agree. Demps is faster. Franklin is stronger. In the back row, I value defense more. With our OOS problem is largely solved by a healthy Ozol and Franklin, back row attack is significantly less important now. Furthermore, resting Franklin helps offense too.Don't get me wrong, I love Franklin as much as the next guy, but I vote for Demps in the back. EDIT: And the Demps' serves, they might look weak but the balls float and make aces..........and next to zero errors.
Do we have enough sub for this to happen?
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 2, 2022 23:03:40 GMT -5
I could almost see the character of this team from this match. You could see that they are going to try different things. The roles are getting a bit clearer, and there are options off the bench. They still need to get some stability passing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 23:05:45 GMT -5
Agree. Demps is faster. Franklin is stronger. In the back row, I value defense more. With our OOS problem is largely solved by a healthy Ozol and Franklin, back row attack is significantly less important now. Furthermore, resting Franklin helps offense too.Don't get me wrong, I love Franklin as much as the next guy, but I vote for Demps in the back. EDIT: And the Demps' serves, they might look weak but the balls float and make aces..........and next to zero errors.
Do we have enough sub for this to happen?
The consensus has been in a 6-2 we will run out of subs at which point we'd have to finish the set in a 5-1. Especially if it is a high scoring set.
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Post by pull3 on Sept 2, 2022 23:08:20 GMT -5
Do we have enough sub for this to happen?
The consensus has been in a 6-2 we will run out of subs at which point we'd have to finish the set in a 5-1.
Sounds good to me.
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 2, 2022 23:10:26 GMT -5
Do we have enough sub for this to happen?
The consensus has been in a 6-2 we will run out of subs at which point we'd have to finish the set in a 5-1. Especially if it is a high scoring set. I thought that would happen in set 2, but Marquette inconveniently did not let us go extra enough.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 2, 2022 23:13:58 GMT -5
There are a lot of moving pieces still. We played pretty poorly for some periods of this match against Marquette. It wasn’t all down to Franklin having an off night.
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 2, 2022 23:21:44 GMT -5
There are a lot of moving pieces still. We played pretty poorly for some periods of this match against Marquette. It wasn’t all down to Franklin having an off night. Absolutely agree. I think Franklin will be fine. She was used to having to do it all at MSU. Once she figures that out, it will go better. Keeping her in those six rotations probably just reinforced that notion.
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