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Post by basil on Aug 27, 2022 10:27:34 GMT -5
Obviously Texas is a very good team, especially offensively, but that didn't look like an OSU team under J-Fo the last few years. The strength of her teams have been their defense, especially digging balls that looked like kills. Murr didn't seem to really get anything tonight and lacked her normal enthusiasm after making a big play that normally feeds the team. That being said, Ohio State had a glaring weakness these past few seasons with the absence of an athletic, terminal pin hitter and didn’t do anything in the portal or on the recruiting front to fix that. it wasn't for lack of trying |
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Post by basil on Aug 27, 2022 10:31:09 GMT -5
Obviously Texas is a very good team, especially offensively, but that didn't look like an OSU team under J-Fo the last few years. The strength of her teams have been their defense, especially digging balls that looked like kills. Murr didn't seem to really get anything tonight and lacked her normal enthusiasm after making a big play that normally feeds the team. I don't necessarily agree that Ohio State didn't dig enough balls. Texas in-system has the arms to score on anyone and they were in-system basically all night. Ohio State had their chances at times though because of some digs and couldn't convert. I do agree about the emotional component, Ohio State (from what I've seen) is usually much more fiery than last night's showing. was it because of the first match? are they trying to be more 'focused'? not sure. we'll know more tonight. |
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 27, 2022 10:41:54 GMT -5
Ohio State looked visibly messy at times and yet they lost -21, -22, -22
This is an encouraging result. Clean it up a bit, don't quickly lose a 9-1 lead, put the pressure on and they can have an even better showing tonight.
Texas played really well. So it was a competitive match with a stacked team playing at a high level. You didn't lose to a Texas team that was playing meh.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 27, 2022 10:43:35 GMT -5
Ohio State looked good last night. Yes, there are always some things to improve but as an outsider the level of play for the first game of the year was really really high compared to the other D1 first games. I think tOSU is going to be tough this year and I look forward to seeing them develop as the season goes on. Texas is on a whole other level with their All-Star team so I wouldn't worry too much about losing a game or two to them. These games will push them and they'll come out tougher on the other side. I also thought Texas would have a bigger issue jelling than they did. Still plenty of areas to work on, but as you say the caliber of play on both sides was way higher than other matches I watched, including the Facebook phone camera vertically aligned feed I saw of Pitt- San Diego, which was another match that impressed me. I think what impressed me most was the crowd and their intensity. You can tell there was a lot of appreciation from the coach and I even saw a tweet giving the fans kudos from the president of the university. OSU has a tough minded head coach who takes an inordinate amount of pride in that program as a previous graduate. Ohio State has as many resources as anyone in the country. There’s no AD more publicly in tune with the changing landscape of NIL than Gene Smith. It’s not like the B1G powerhouses of Nebraska/Minnesota/Wisconsin are just going to let Ohio State jump ahead of them, but the kind of crowd and atmosphere I saw is exactly what Ohio State needs to take that next step on an annual basis. Ohio State was in every set until the end. Saying it was a sweep doesn’t do the level of competition justice. Just a few swings here and there that went OSU’s way instead of the Longhorns and we’re talking about a different outcome. Adjustments will be made on both sides for tonight’s rematch, but I give the advantage to the ones who were on the short end of the stick (as far as making adjustments). I fully expect another brawl out there tonight. Wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest to see the Buckeyes come out on top this time. |
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 27, 2022 10:47:55 GMT -5
Ohio State looked visibly messy at times and yet they lost -21, -22, -22 This is an encouraging result. Clean it up a bit, don't quickly lose a 9-1 lead, put the pressure on and they can have an even better showing tonight. Texas played really well. So it was a competitive match with a stacked team playing at a high level. You didn't lose to a Texas team that was playing meh. I thought Ohio State looked disciplined and well-coached as a team most of the time. They simply can’t match the firepower that Texas brings to the court, but they will win some matches by being cohesive and focused. |
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Post by mnsports255 on Aug 27, 2022 21:16:42 GMT -5
Here’s my thought: Ohio State is way too slow and unathletic compared to other top 25 teams to get away with horrible serve and pass. If they can’t get that part of their game together in a big way, they stand virtually no chance at winning against good teams especially with 2 subpar outsides on the court and a DS who simply isn’t ready to be a difference maker. That was a really bad couple of days for the Buckeyes. We’ll see how they bounce back against some other good competition but the early prognosis for this team’s Elite 8 ambitions aren’t looking promising.
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Post by hangonsloopy on Aug 27, 2022 21:32:32 GMT -5
Here’s my thought: Ohio State is way too slow and unathletic compared to other top 25 teams to get away with horrible serve and pass. If they can’t get that part of their game together in a big way, they stand virtually no chance at winning against good teams especially with 2 subpar outsides on the court and a DS who simply isn’t ready to be a difference maker. That was a really bad couple of days for the Buckeyes. We’ll see how they bounce back against some other good competition but the early prognosis for this team’s Elite 8 ambitions aren’t looking promising. I don’t know if I’m ready to have that as my take-away from this series, we’ve had the same issue for the past 2 years with OHs and did okay against top 25 opponents (better OH play would’ve definitely elevated us for sure) but my point is that this who we are at this point, it won’t change this year at least….yeah things looked rough at times but I believe this Texas team is on a different level right now so I’m factoring in how much their great play affected ours, it’ll be interesting to see how we do moving forward |
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Post by gohuskervolleyball on Aug 27, 2022 22:42:03 GMT -5
Curious what you guys think about Moore vs Grunze
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 23:27:41 GMT -5
Curious what you guys think about Moore vs Grunze Just based off the eye test I felt like Moore was better overall. She struggled with her SR hence her being targeted but she wasn’t awful. Plus I feel like she has better placement with her attacks. I honestly don’t remember anything in particular from Grunze besides several hitting errors. I could of missed some great plays given I’m not as familiar with tOSU but I just feel like Moore has the edge. Then again I could be wrong. |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Aug 27, 2022 23:35:12 GMT -5
Curious what you guys think about Moore vs Grunze Just based off the eye test I felt like Moore was better overall. She struggled with her SR hence her being targeted but she wasn’t awful. Plus I feel like she has better placement with her attacks. I honestly don’t remember anything in particular from Grunze besides several hitting errors. I could of missed some great plays given I’m not as familiar with tOSU but I just feel like Moore has the edge. Then again I could be wrong. Agreed and I think Moore could be that athletic terminal hitter that OSU needs. I just think she needs to play some more games to get into a rhythm. |
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Post by cbusvball on Aug 28, 2022 0:04:08 GMT -5
Curious what you guys think about Moore vs Grunze I hope the Mia sub was to try and get a bigger block against the slide and right side attack because she is worse in serve receive and not as good out of system, which OSU was in a lot. I would play Moore because she seems more consistent and has a higher ceiling. When she was subbed out, I figured she was hitting negative and was shocked she was hitting .200 when JFO subbed her out for Mia. |
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Post by quickhit on Aug 28, 2022 2:07:14 GMT -5
Here’s my thought: Ohio State is way too slow and unathletic compared to other top 25 teams to get away with horrible serve and pass. If they can’t get that part of their game together in a big way, they stand virtually no chance at winning against good teams especially with 2 subpar outsides on the court and a DS who simply isn’t ready to be a difference maker. That was a really bad couple of days for the Buckeyes. We’ll see how they bounce back against some other good competition but the early prognosis for this team’s Elite 8 ambitions aren’t looking promising. I don’t know if I’m ready to have that as my take-away from this series, we’ve had the same issue for the past 2 years with OHs and did okay against top 25 opponents (better OH play would’ve definitely elevated us for sure) but my point is that this who we are at this point, it won’t change this year at least….yeah things looked rough at times but I believe this Texas team is on a different level right now so I’m factoring in how much their great play affected ours, it’ll be interesting to see how we do moving forward Sloopy, I think that's a great post. The challenge I'd give you is that if you believe the rankings, then Texas shouldn't be considered to be on a different level, right? |
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Post by bucky415 on Aug 28, 2022 3:03:29 GMT -5
I don’t know if I’m ready to have that as my take-away from this series, we’ve had the same issue for the past 2 years with OHs and did okay against top 25 opponents (better OH play would’ve definitely elevated us for sure) but my point is that this who we are at this point, it won’t change this year at least….yeah things looked rough at times but I believe this Texas team is on a different level right now so I’m factoring in how much their great play affected ours, it’ll be interesting to see how we do moving forward Sloopy, I think that's a great post. The challenge I'd give you is that if you believe the rankings, then Texas shouldn't be considered to be on a different level, right? We will know more after Wednesday, but, as much as it pains me to say this as a Wisconsin fan, I think it is now Nebraska/Texas/everyone else after the opening weekend. The Gophers have their shot at Texas in Austin Wednesday, and they are my 3 now, so we will see, but Texas was the team of the opening weekend with their wins at a good Buckeye team! |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 28, 2022 8:27:21 GMT -5
If Ohio State can top USD and Louisville this weekend, these losses to Texas are going to be seen as an exception, not the rule.
The only thing I didn't like about Ohio State over those two games is the team just seemed to kind of quit midway through that 4th set on Saturday. Didn't see it at all at any other time for the 2 matches. It's my opinion Ohio State fans are going to be very pleased with how this team looks in these next two matches, but the competition remains formidable. USD is no joke. They look like a legitimate top 10 team to me right now. And, of course, Louisville is.
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Post by hangonsloopy on Aug 28, 2022 10:30:50 GMT -5
I don’t know if I’m ready to have that as my take-away from this series, we’ve had the same issue for the past 2 years with OHs and did okay against top 25 opponents (better OH play would’ve definitely elevated us for sure) but my point is that this who we are at this point, it won’t change this year at least….yeah things looked rough at times but I believe this Texas team is on a different level right now so I’m factoring in how much their great play affected ours, it’ll be interesting to see how we do moving forward Sloopy, I think that's a great post. The challenge I'd give you is that if you believe the rankings, then Texas shouldn't be considered to be on a different level, right? Yeah I pretty much echo what Bucky said, I think this year is unique in terms of tier 1 is only two teams right now in my eyes (Texas and Nebraska) which is different from what we usually are accustomed to where most of the top 10 matchups are a toss up…I don’t think this will be the case this year judging by this weekend’s overall results…l still do have us as a top 10 team that has a good chance at making the elite 8 but that’s the ceiling in my opinion…I don’t see this team surviving whatever matchup the elite 8 will give them unless our OH play and our unforced errors improve drastically. I also don’t have an issue if someone thinks we’re ranked too high, that’s why I said in my post “I don’t know if I’m ready” just personally for me, I need to see more matchups with teams in that top 10 range that aren’t in the tier 1 I mentioned above before I reach that conclusion. |
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