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Post by westcoastbestcoast on Aug 9, 2022 8:39:38 GMT -5
Wouldn’t call them a dark horse as the only PAC team to finish in the top five consistently for the last 4 years. They have solid transfers this year and experience in the gym. LOL that seemed oddly specific, so I checked. Washington has been either #1 or #2 every year since 2013 *except* 2018 when they were 6th (in a tie). So it kind of seems like a bit of a cherry-pick to specify "the only team in the top-5" for the last four years. Perhaps interestingly, Washington has been in the top 5 of the conference every year since 2002 except that one time when they were sixth in 2018. Of course, Stanford has been in the top 4 (and usually in the top 2) every year since 1986 except for that one COVID season. WSU has a while to go before they establish themselves as a consistent power in the conference, although yes, they have been strong in the past four years. Highest conference finish: 1: Stanford(19), UCLA(7), Washington(7), USC(5), Arizona(1), Cal(1) 2: Oregon(3), WSU(2), ASU(1) 3: Utah(3), OSU(1) 4: Colorado(1) Understood - just was making the point that I don’t think WSU should be considered a dark horse anymore. Greeny has consistently been able to use her pieces well, with a decent amount of transfer activity and roster inconsistency. You’re right, maybe a bit cherry picked, but still true nonetheless
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 9, 2022 12:11:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure why you posted this. Last years #1 was Hoffman by a hair but does it matter; Hoffman will still most likely be option #1 this year. Also, I was focusing on pins and rotational replacement for Drechsel. Not to say I haven't pondered Grote becoming the #2 option but a Rettke she is not. I suppose she could, to a degree, soak up some of Drechsels 404 kills in addition to her own 249 from prior year. I'm guessing UW will still need 300+ kills soaked up by the "committee" or an individual pin in order for the UW to win pac. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. (Of course numbers are based on last years sets played and yester years defenses and etc, and only looking at kill production) "Hoffman, option 2 by committee (Endsley, Bush, Crenshaw and Wilmes) or one asserts herself and becomes #2" I don't think it is a matter of one player having to become a clear #2, but of where improvement is most likely to occur: 1. Summers had the top hitting pct. as the #3 MB. She can more than replace Sanders' offensive production. The question is her blocking, but she's got the ingredients. How much the passing improves will determine how much more offense we can get from the middles - more offense going through the middles makes it easier to set the pins. I'm looking for a major step-up by Summers. Grote could vie for 1st Team AA honors. 2. Bush is the #2 returning offensive option (495ta), but was the least efficient attacker (.147). As a true freshman, she was wildly inconsistent. Of UW's hitters, she has, by far, the highest ceiling. 3. Crenshaw hit .309, a very good average for a pin, and is #3 in efficiency among returning hitters. If she can help to solidify the passing (Hoffman, Bays, Crenshaw) and hit efficiently at OH2, she doesn't need to be a major cog in the offense, especially if Bush can step up in a major way at OPP. 4. Alternatively, Endsley starting at OH2 could depend on how well a 2-person passing-rotation (Bays-Hoffman) can do. Like Bush, she needs to improve her efficiency (.195). 5. Wilmes (R-Fr) could DS for Bush at OPP. Hani (Fr) will likely redshirt, but I keep having a recurring vision of Cook deploying all 6'4" of her at OPP.
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Post by pnwvb on Aug 9, 2022 13:18:26 GMT -5
Let’s hope the PAC can secure a contract with ESPN!
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 9, 2022 13:29:45 GMT -5
Just an observation looking VB Magazines All-American mentions from 2021. There are a bit more than twice as many from the PAC than the B1G that return this season.
This should be a good year for the PAC in VB.
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Post by JJVb on Aug 17, 2022 5:51:34 GMT -5
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Post by volleynerd on Aug 17, 2022 12:42:16 GMT -5
Let’s hope the PAC can secure a contract with ESPN! only three matches on ESPNU this season Washington @ UCLA 09/25 6PM Stanford @ Utah 10/09 6PM Oregon @ UCLA 10/16 5PM
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Post by volleynerd on Aug 17, 2022 12:44:15 GMT -5
Washington is perfect at 8.... UCLA ahead of Stanford is questionable for me... I would have them ahead of the Bruins and ahead of Kentucky considering who they return... Oregon is also a little low for me, Utah is a major toss-up & WSU has a case to be in there instead USC is at 24 but I think they are on the upward trajectory...
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 17, 2022 13:02:40 GMT -5
I think Stanford, Oregon and USC are each at least 5 spots too low, and have additional potential upside.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 17, 2022 13:07:25 GMT -5
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Post by vbfamily on Aug 17, 2022 13:09:48 GMT -5
I emailed the original poster requesting this today! 👍
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 17, 2022 13:45:08 GMT -5
There is a huge question of just how good WSU is when Pukis is not on the court for them. One of many things we'll find out when the matches start happening.
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 17, 2022 14:20:58 GMT -5
There is a huge question of just how good WSU is when Pukis is not on the court for them. One of many things we'll find out when the matches start happening. Of course the flip side to that is how much does she improve Oregon?
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 17, 2022 14:38:16 GMT -5
There is a huge question of just how good WSU is when Pukis is not on the court for them. One of many things we'll find out when the matches start happening. Of course the flip side to that is how much does she improve Oregon? Yes, it's a question. Oregon has just one year with her, though. And unlike WSU, she doesn't have four years of "connection" between herself, her passers, and her hitters. So we'll see how fast she adjusts to Oregon and how fast Oregon adjusts to her. Oregon is not likely going to completely 100% retool around Pukis given that they know she's "one and done" with them.
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Post by basil on Aug 17, 2022 14:39:26 GMT -5
Of course the flip side to that is how much does she improve Oregon? Yes, it's a question. Oregon has just one year with her, though. And unlike WSU, she doesn't have four years of "connection" between herself, her passers, and her hitters. So we'll see how fast she adjusts to Oregon and how fast Oregon adjusts to her. Oregon is not likely going to completely 100% retool around Pukis given that they know she's "one and done" with them. she has 2 years of eligbility but idk if she'll use it
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 17, 2022 14:50:39 GMT -5
Of course the flip side to that is how much does she improve Oregon? Yes, it's a question. Oregon has just one year with her, though. And unlike WSU, she doesn't have four years of "connection" between herself, her passers, and her hitters. So we'll see how fast she adjusts to Oregon and how fast Oregon adjusts to her. Oregon is not likely going to completely 100% retool around Pukis given that they know she's "one and done" with them. They list her as a redshirt Jr and she should have two years if they both want her to play 2. They have a lot of their top returning hitters with one or two years left (Nuneviller, Bacon, Lewis, Mutiri), so I don't see why they wouldn't build around her for the next two years.
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