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Post by sleepy on Jan 3, 2022 11:45:06 GMT -5
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Post by memorybankrupt on Jan 3, 2022 12:33:21 GMT -5
I never mentioned specifically her hitting stats. I merely was backing up Avid's view point that her serve, speed to the pins and overall level of play seems to have regressed slightly from what I have watched of her in the past two seasons. I love the kid and hope she does great in the pro scene. I also think that she and Butler will compliment Chi and Haleigh well. I just think she has more of a learning curve and room to grow than some seem to think on this forum. I think the point was that she could have benefited from playing a year of pro versus playing NCAA. There is little doubt that she would have progressed further playing pro. This is not to say that she won’t be successful at the next level but rather she didn’t progress as she might have had she played pro. It would seem that winning a National Championship was her priority and if so, mission accomplished. Haleigh and Chi are continuing to progress on the international stage and are likely the front runners for Paris at this time. We’ll have to see how the NCAA players fare and what kind of progress they make in this shortened “quad”. I think all of our top collegiate MBs (like Rettke, Butler, Hord, Stivrins) will be in for a shock when they have to block against elite intl teams. I’D say the four I mentioned are terrific at attacking, but only good or okay at blocking at the collegiate level. That’s a bit worrisome. Blocking is pretty much the weeder for the MBs, just like passing is for OHs and liberos. I wonder if someone like Stevenson would excel further than the others mentioned. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 12:35:13 GMT -5
I think the point was that she could have benefited from playing a year of pro versus playing NCAA. There is little doubt that she would have progressed further playing pro. This is not to say that she won’t be successful at the next level but rather she didn’t progress as she might have had she played pro. It would seem that winning a National Championship was her priority and if so, mission accomplished. Haleigh and Chi are continuing to progress on the international stage and are likely the front runners for Paris at this time. We’ll have to see how the NCAA players fare and what kind of progress they make in this shortened “quad”. I think all of our top collegiate MBs (like Rettke, Butler, Hord, Stivrins) will be in for a shock when they have to block against elite intl teams. I’D say the four I mentioned are terrific at attacking, but only good or okay at blocking at the collegiate level. That’s a bit worrisome. Blocking is pretty much the weeder for the MBs, just like passing is for OHs and liberos. I wonder if someone like Stevenson would excel further than the others mentioned. I think Hord is a terrific blocker. She’s pretty quick too. I worry about Butler and Rettke because I think they are both a little slower pin to pin but they both are huge blocks when they get there |
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Post by memorybankrupt on Jan 3, 2022 12:38:10 GMT -5
I think all of our top collegiate MBs (like Rettke, Butler, Hord, Stivrins) will be in for a shock when they have to block against elite intl teams. I’D say the four I mentioned are terrific at attacking, but only good or okay at blocking at the collegiate level. That’s a bit worrisome. Blocking is pretty much the weeder for the MBs, just like passing is for OHs and liberos. I wonder if someone like Stevenson would excel further than the others mentioned. I think Hord is a terrific blocker. She’s pretty quick too. I worry about Butler and Rettke because I think they are both a little slower pin to pin but they both are huge blocks when they get there Maybe it’s blocking with Blossum but I didn’t really see it. I think all four I mentioned have issues closing the block. |
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Post by odinaka on Jan 3, 2022 12:38:29 GMT -5
Anyone have inside tea on this? Can't imagine what could've happened or someone got paid? Several clubs jumped ship with USAV to Adidas so will they jump back? Edit: NVM, just found this has a whole thread of its own already LOL |
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 3, 2022 13:01:37 GMT -5
middle “blocker”. offense is great, especially when teams havent seen you, but her blocking was just not great. Dana herself said that she felt too slow to the pins and found the game hard to read. the stats reflected that. spending an extra year in college won’t help that. I have confidence she’ll get there though. This! I remember Dana saying that too about how the biggest adjustment she had to make in 2019 was getting outside to the pins for blocking. People forget that it’s also harder not only because balls are set faster, but also because sets are more deceptive. I remember Dana saying how impressed she was watching Wolosz from the bench because of how neutral of a setter she was. The fact Washington is always talking about and working on new technique for reading and blocking footwork shows how difficult and time consuming such a skill is. So I agree with all the posters who have been saying Rettke would have benefited more in terms of her game if she went pro earlier. Nevertheless, I don’t think she mad a wrong decision for getting her NCAA championship. Tell ya what...learn to be specific. Dana's stats didn't suck and weren't meh as someone stated. She hit and served well in this tournament. If whomever made the blanket statement would have said she didn't block well, I would have agreed. And not once did anyone state she'd be playing Olympics. She will get shots at it, however. |
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Post by newbeach on Jan 3, 2022 13:18:50 GMT -5
I think the point was that she could have benefited from playing a year of pro versus playing NCAA. There is little doubt that she would have progressed further playing pro. This is not to say that she won’t be successful at the next level but rather she didn’t progress as she might have had she played pro. It would seem that winning a National Championship was her priority and if so, mission accomplished. Haleigh and Chi are continuing to progress on the international stage and are likely the front runners for Paris at this time. We’ll have to see how the NCAA players fare and what kind of progress they make in this shortened “quad”. I think all of our top collegiate MBs (like Rettke, Butler, Hord, Stivrins) will be in for a shock when they have to block against elite intl teams. I’D say the four I mentioned are terrific at attacking, but only good or okay at blocking at the collegiate level. That’s a bit worrisome. Blocking is pretty much the weeder for the MBs, just like passing is for OHs and liberos. I wonder if someone like Stevenson would excel further than the others mentioned. I can’t say how well these players will do internationally, but I definitely agree that in the pro leagues, blocking is the hallmark of a good MB. Not that attacking isn’t useful, it just seems that teams value good blocking - they typically are paying big money for outside hitters to carry the attacking load. |
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on Jan 3, 2022 13:33:31 GMT -5
I have to think that for a lot of these 5th year seniors, getting their masters for free was also a big reason why they would stay for the fall season. Of course I wanted players like Samedy and Rettke to go pro after the spring season, but getting your masters degree from a great school while getting another shot at a natty doesn't sound terrible to me. I understand why a lot of athletes chose to stay. Plus I think some athletes were still recovering from the side effects of covid.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 3, 2022 13:40:21 GMT -5
I have to think that for a lot of these 5th year seniors, getting their masters for free was also a big reason why they would stay for the fall season. Of course I wanted players like Samedy and Rettke to go pro after the spring season, but getting your masters degree from a great school while getting another shot at a natty doesn't sound terrible to me. I understand why a lot of athletes chose to stay. Plus I think some athletes were still recovering from the side effects of covid. It absolutely was, and should have been. Grad school is expensive and to get half of it paid for is huge. |
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Post by basil on Jan 3, 2022 13:50:45 GMT -5
my earlier posts mightve come off the wrong way so lemme just say I'm not judging the athletes for staying or anything. there's a ton of very good reasons for staying. I'm just pointing out that some professional development was sacrificed which is an individual decision.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 3, 2022 13:51:51 GMT -5
I think the point was that she could have benefited from playing a year of pro versus playing NCAA. There is little doubt that she would have progressed further playing pro. This is not to say that she won’t be successful at the next level but rather she didn’t progress as she might have had she played pro. It would seem that winning a National Championship was her priority and if so, mission accomplished. Haleigh and Chi are continuing to progress on the international stage and are likely the front runners for Paris at this time. We’ll have to see how the NCAA players fare and what kind of progress they make in this shortened “quad”. I think all of our top collegiate MBs (like Rettke, Butler, Hord, Stivrins) will be in for a shock when they have to block against elite intl teams. I’D say the four I mentioned are terrific at attacking, but only good or okay at blocking at the collegiate level. That’s a bit worrisome. Blocking is pretty much the weeder for the MBs, just like passing is for OHs and liberos. I wonder if someone like Stevenson would excel further than the others mentioned. I think Stevenson has more potential to be good at the next level than people think. I’d say she’s quicker than hord, rettke, stivrins, or butler and her jumping speed is pretty insane. She reaches the peak of her jump very quickly off the ground and not only closed to the pins well but also was able to form a really strong block even against quick offenses. I think she might be the most athletic out of the bunch but we’ll see how she does |
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Post by dl3ww on Jan 3, 2022 20:29:58 GMT -5
JT & Samedy for Paris 2024!
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Post by udubhuskiefan on Jan 3, 2022 20:36:29 GMT -5
JT & Samedy for Paris 2024! Why is everyone writing off Drews? She did very well in Tokyo. |
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Post by mapuan on Jan 3, 2022 20:45:28 GMT -5
Everyone should calm down and wait for the results of Samedy's pro performance. We had talented college girls before and it didn't translate in club/NT.
Though I am very excited to see Stevenson, May, Samedy, and Rettke to the next level. I believe these girls were the best players of their respective teams (as well as the whole NCAA) in the last season.
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Post by vollectator on Jan 3, 2022 20:52:22 GMT -5
I think all of our top collegiate MBs (like Rettke, Butler, Hord, Stivrins) will be in for a shock when they have to block against elite intl teams. I’D say the four I mentioned are terrific at attacking, but only good or okay at blocking at the collegiate level. That’s a bit worrisome. Blocking is pretty much the weeder for the MBs, just like passing is for OHs and liberos. I wonder if someone like Stevenson would excel further than the others mentioned. I think Hord is a terrific blocker. She’s pretty quick too. I worry about Butler and Rettke because I think they are both a little slower pin to pin but they both are huge blocks when they get there True! probably more of a challenge to Butler than to Rettke. |
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