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Post by wahinefan on Dec 9, 2022 14:31:44 GMT -5
I truly hope BWC Teams start bringing in some elite players to make the Conference Stronger, and give the Wahine Team some competition. Well at least, the Top 4 or 5 teams anyway. Some programs just don't develop their players - the BWC would benefit from some coaching changes too I totally agree about some BWC teams needing coaching changes. The Top 4 or 5 teams have some good young coaches in place, just hoping they can hold on to them. |
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Post by beachgrad on Dec 9, 2022 15:29:08 GMT -5
I truly hope BWC Teams start bringing in some elite players to make the Conference Stronger, and give the Wahine Team some competition. Well at least, the Top 4 or 5 teams anyway. Some programs just don't develop their players - the BWC would benefit from some coaching changes too Which schools could benefit from coaching changes? UCR, CSUN LBSU, and Fullerton all made recent coaching changes and some of these schools were near the bottom most years. I really do not know much about the programs at Bakersfield and UCSD. UCI and UCD have had the same coaches for some time and have middle of the road programs most years. Hawaii, Poly and UCSB have been at or near the top for some time. Not sure which schools would make a change if their program was stuck mid pack. I probably would look to make a change if the contracts at UCI and UCD came up but only if the school would make a material increase in support. I think the top four are safe and the bottom third has made recent changes outside the newly added members. |
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Post by Secret Asian Man on Dec 9, 2022 15:32:29 GMT -5
I like it when the Wahine dominates. Gotta keep their streak of making it to the tournament going.
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Post by beachgrad on Dec 9, 2022 15:50:32 GMT -5
Per BW twitter the conference will have a tournament starting next season. There will be 6 teams with the top two getting a first round bye.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Dec 9, 2022 15:54:41 GMT -5
In order for all those changes to happen, the Big West needs to step up its revenue game. Without revenue there is limited resources. The landscape for the future will be all about mega-conferences. As a conference, you cannot have the model of becoming a non-football conference but instead becoming a premier conference in - say- basketball and survive. Even the ACC who was arguably a basketball conference long ago, has now become a premier football conference as well. What the schools need is resources; to compete in facilities, talent, NIL, cable TV prominence etc. and resources takes money. If they can be a want to watch conference in any sport, then maybe a TV conference channel contract would be the next step. But you need compelling content for that. ESPN will not pay for mediocre content.
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on Dec 9, 2022 15:58:09 GMT -5
Per BW twitter the conference will have a tournament starting next season. There will be 6 teams with the top two getting a first round bye. Very nice! |
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Post by raian13 on Dec 9, 2022 16:01:04 GMT -5
Per BW twitter the conference will have a tournament starting next season. There will be 6 teams with the top two getting a first round bye. Ugh. A reason for underperforming teams to steal top team’s thunder in a one-bid conference. I’m pretty sure LBSU, UCI, and CP are the most happy about this. |
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Post by raian13 on Dec 9, 2022 16:02:40 GMT -5
In order for all those changes to happen, the Big West needs to step up its revenue game. Without revenue there is limited resources. The landscape for the future will be all about mega-conferences. As a conference, you cannot have the model of becoming a non-football conference but instead becoming a premier conference in - say- basketball and survive. Even the ACC who was arguably a basketball conference long ago, has now become a premier football conference as well. What the schools need is resources; to compete in facilities, talent, NIL, cable TV prominence etc. and resources takes money. If they can be a want to watch conference in any sport, then maybe a TV conference channel contract would be the next step. But you need compelling content for that. ESPN will not pay for mediocre content. Big West must be in the right direction since ESPN+ broadcasted all of the conference matches this season. |
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Post by Timeless on Dec 9, 2022 16:04:19 GMT -5
Not a fan. When does the lift from 28 max competition dates happen?
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Post by rainbowcard on Dec 9, 2022 16:11:49 GMT -5
Per BW twitter the conference will have a tournament starting next season. There will be 6 teams with the top two getting a first round bye. Ugh. A reason for underperforming teams to steal top team’s thunder in a one-bid conference. I’m pretty sure LBSU, UCI, and CP are the most happy about this. Not good for Hawaii next season, but 2024 and beyond I think it will be a good thing as teams usually get stronger as the season goes and Hawaii will be having a lot of new players in 2024 and all our seniors gone. |
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Post by DiggUH on Dec 9, 2022 16:14:33 GMT -5
How does the BW plan on instituting an 18 game conference schedule? Will some teams not play others in a given season, or just play a couple of teams once instead of twice?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Dec 9, 2022 16:14:56 GMT -5
Per BW twi tter the conference will have a tournament starting next season. There will be 6 teams with the top two getting a first round bye. Ugh. A reason for underperforming teams to steal top team’s thunder in a one-bid conference. I’m pretty sure LBSU, UCI, and CP are the most happy about this. I don't understand this comment. Cal Poly has got auto bids via conf titles in recent past. A conf tournament (limited to top teams) should help RPI. The top two teams get an advantage with this as well. if one assumes the Big West is perpetually a 1 bid league, then yeah, I guess one can say it's 'stealing a bid' mentality. well, it occurs every year in MBB, the regular season champ typically sits at home or goes to the NIT, while due to the odds, someone other than the #1 seed likely wins - it's statistics. It doesn't change that MBB is a 1 bid league. for WVB, the other way to look at it is that it is MORE LIKELY TO INCREASE BIDS, since an auto-bid yes may go to a team that would not get an auto-bid, but the top team typically is in or close to consideration for an at-large bid. WVB has had one bid, but also multiple bids, and the tourny does make it more likely to get multiple bids - hard to see how that is a negative. |
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Post by beachgrad on Dec 9, 2022 16:16:03 GMT -5
Ugh. A reason for underperforming teams to steal top team’s thunder in a one-bid conference. I’m pretty sure LBSU, UCI, and CP are the most happy about this. Not good for Hawaii next season, but 2024 and beyond I think it will be a good thing as teams usually get stronger as the season goes and Hawaii will be having a lot of new players in 2024 and all our seniors gone. Hawaii should have one of the better recent teams next year and should win enough to have at least an RPI as high as this year. If the team loses in the BW tournament they would still make the NCAAs. Hawaii fans alway say they are heads and tails above all other conference opponents so this should not have a material impact. |
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Post by beachgrad on Dec 9, 2022 16:16:57 GMT -5
How does the BW plan on instituting an 18 game conference schedule? Will some teams not play others in a given season, or just play a couple of teams once instead of twice? Let's hope the schools can choose not to play UCR  . |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Dec 9, 2022 16:18:32 GMT -5
In order for all those changes to happen, the Big West needs to step up its revenue game. Without revenue there is limited resources. The landscape for the future will be all about mega-conferences. As a conference, you cannot have the model of becoming a non-football conference but instead becoming a premier conference in - say- basketball and survive. Even the ACC who was arguably a basketball conference long ago, has now become a premier football conference as well. What the schools need is resources; to compete in facilities, talent, NIL, cable TV prominence etc. and resources takes money. If they can be a want to watch conference in any sport, then maybe a TV conference channel contract would be the next step. But you need compelling content for that. ESPN will not pay for mediocre content. Big West must be in the right direction since ESPN+ broadcasted all of the conference matches this season. ESPN+ is for paid subs only. If its not broadcasted on one of the ESPN channels, the audience is pretty small. For collegiate sports; EPSN tries to accommodate the NCAA in order to land the more lucrative college events. Most all D1 conferences has presence on ESPN+. Those contracts are peanuts for ESPN. They see it as a means to grooming new viewers. If they can get you to invest in ESPN+ through however subscription plan you have, that gives them the opportunity to expose you to other pay per-view events down the line. The idea is to keep you away from CBS sports, Fox Sports, etc. Now if your conference can strike a deal with ESPN for all your content outside of the NCAA's contracts, they will pay you huge amounts of cash. That's what the SEC has done. They made it its mission to be a part of the Power Five when it formed by beefing up the football teams and as they got more revenue from the cable TV deals, they built up the resources for those schools and made themselves look attractive to the talent as they come into age. ESPN+ is like community service to ESPN. |
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