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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 9, 2022 20:58:22 GMT -5
Sure you did. Anyway, Sesame Street has had Black and Latino characters - human and muppet - going on fifty years now. They added an autistic character years back, as well as a wheelchair bound character. Not much of a peep there from anyone. But in 2022, a muppet character who more or less resembles around 20 million American citizens is introduced, and people like Carlson - and by extension, Holiday - lose their sh!t over it? Why is that, do you think? well its because anyone who is growing sick and tired of everything under the sun being political is a white nationalist. Haven't you heard Geddy? Its what your favorite network says, you and the four other people tht watch it. Nonsensical deflection, par for the course. Also, I don’t watch TV news unless there’s like a hurricane or insurrection at the capital building… So, really, why is this causing you and your pals on the right to freak out? As Bear pointed out, the was a Japanese actor on Sesame Street for years - no complaints. I don’t recall any yelling at the clouds over the introduction of a Mexican - American character, Rosita (30 years ago!), or various black characters over the life of the show for that matter. Should Sesame Street simply ignore the millions of Asian-Americans in our country? Why is introducing a another character that simply reflects 21st century America considered an act of political partisanship? The answer seems fairly clear… Now, I’m off to savor the 49ers huge win and watch the return of Klay Thompson after being out 2 1/2 years…it’s a good day for Bay Area sports fans! |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 9, 2022 21:04:16 GMT -5
well its because anyone who is growing sick and tired of everything under the sun being political is a white nationalist. Haven't you heard Geddy? Its what your favorite network says, you and the four other people tht watch it. Nonsensical deflection, par for the course. Also, I don’t watch TV news unless there’s like a hurricane or insurrection at the capital building… So, really, why is this causing you and your pals on the right to freak out? As Bear pointed out, the was a Japanese actor on Sesame Street for years - no complaints. I don’t recall any yelling at the clouds over the introduction of a Mexican - American character, Rosita (30 years ago!), or various black characters over the life of the show for that matter. Should Sesame Street simply ignore the millions of Asian-Americans in our country? Why is introducing a another character that simply reflects 21st century America considered an act of political partisanship? The answer seems fairly clear… Now, I’m off to savor the 49ers huge win and watch the return of Klay Thompson after being out 2 1/2 years…it’s a good day for Bay Area sports fans! Well...I am going to shock you right now. If their were ever folks that deserve some positive recognition it would be the Asian-Americans. Wonderful, hard working, peaceful people. If adding one to Sesame Street will help stop some of the violence toward them its all worth it. I will be more than happy to eat crow then. |
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Post by moody on Jan 9, 2022 21:14:35 GMT -5
Nonsensical deflection, par for the course. Also, I don’t watch TV news unless there’s like a hurricane or insurrection at the capital building… So, really, why is this causing you and your pals on the right to freak out? As Bear pointed out, the was a Japanese actor on Sesame Street for years - no complaints. I don’t recall any yelling at the clouds over the introduction of a Mexican - American character, Rosita (30 years ago!), or various black characters over the life of the show for that matter. Should Sesame Street simply ignore the millions of Asian-Americans in our country? Why is introducing a another character that simply reflects 21st century America considered an act of political partisanship? The answer seems fairly clear… Now, I’m off to savor the 49ers huge win and watch the return of Klay Thompson after being out 2 1/2 years…it’s a good day for Bay Area sports fans! Well...I am going to shock you right now. If their were ever folks that deserve some positive recognition it would be the Asian-Americans. Wonderful, hard working, peaceful people. If adding one to Sesame Street will help stop some of the violence toward them its all worth it. I will be more than happy to eat crow then. then why have you been bitching about it for 3 days and 5 pages? |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 9, 2022 21:17:53 GMT -5
Well...I am going to shock you right now. If their were ever folks that deserve some positive recognition it would be the Asian-Americans. Wonderful, hard working, peaceful people. If adding one to Sesame Street will help stop some of the violence toward them its all worth it. I will be more than happy to eat crow then. then why have you been bitching about it for 3 days and 5 pages? Moody....just enjoy the moment...you people have such few wins to celebrate. Embrace it. |
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Post by moody on Jan 9, 2022 21:21:43 GMT -5
then why have you been bitching about it for 3 days and 5 pages? Moody....just enjoy the moment...you people have such few wins to celebrate. Embrace it. you really have stopped making sense. |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jan 9, 2022 22:54:34 GMT -5
Although it’s not the first time Sesame Street has used a muppet to represent a particular ethnic group (Roosevelt Franklin), it seems a little forced to me.
Part of the reason for human cast members should be to reflect human diversity. The show has done this from the start or at least for as long as I’ve been watching.
That being said, it doesn’t really move the needle to much for me, other than, like I said, it being transparently forced.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jan 9, 2022 23:01:07 GMT -5
Is there a more punchable face in cable news opinion? Don Lemon’s by a long-shot. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Jan 9, 2022 23:02:18 GMT -5
God who gives a sht it's a muppet.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 9, 2022 23:08:08 GMT -5
God who gives a sht it's a muppet. . Evidently you people do. |
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Post by BearClause on Jan 9, 2022 23:18:59 GMT -5
Although it’s not the first time Sesame Street has used a muppet to represent a particular ethnic group (Roosevelt Franklin), it seems a little forced to me. Part of the reason for human cast members should be to reflect human diversity. The show has done this from the start or at least for as long as I’ve been watching. That being said, it doesn’t really move the needle to much for me, other than, like I said, it being transparently forced. I'm curious how this was forced. The puppeteer in this case was Korean-American. In the past, Sesame Street and the Muppets had puppeteers work on new characters that they felt represented themselves. I know Kevin Clash was best known for Elmo, but he's done any number of characters that we supposed to represent the African-American experience that he understood, like Clifford. |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jan 9, 2022 23:20:46 GMT -5
Is there a more punchable face in cable news opinion? Don Lemon’s by a long-shot. Him or Jussie Smollett |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 9, 2022 23:54:24 GMT -5
Although it’s not the first time Sesame Street has used a muppet to represent a particular ethnic group (Roosevelt Franklin), it seems a little forced to me. Part of the reason for human cast members should be to reflect human diversity. The show has done this from the start or at least for as long as I’ve been watching. That being said, it doesn’t really move the needle to much for me, other than, like I said, it being transparently forced. For something that doesn’t move the needle for you, that’s a pretty strong take. At any rate, why do you believe it was “forced,” and in your mind are there any reasons the production company may have felt compelled to introduce an Asian character? |
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 10, 2022 0:00:28 GMT -5
I ate some gochujang today. Maybe it was because Sesame Street indoctrinated me into liking Korean food?
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Post by BearClause on Jan 10, 2022 0:16:58 GMT -5
I ate some gochujang today. Maybe it was because Sesame Street indoctrinated me into liking Korean food? At least you didn't have all those little side dishes. I remember being in OC back on NYE 2019 and they had all those little side dishes. Not sure what the deal was because I was feeling sick when we went back to Disneyland after dinner to catch the NYE festivities, and I dry heaved when we got back to our hotel room. That was obviously a plot to make my family sick. That and my kid's addiction to Shin Ramyun. That stuff is like crack to my 11 year old - especially Shin Black. |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jan 10, 2022 1:40:52 GMT -5
Although it’s not the first time Sesame Street has used a muppet to represent a particular ethnic group (Roosevelt Franklin), it seems a little forced to me. Part of the reason for human cast members should be to reflect human diversity. The show has done this from the start or at least for as long as I’ve been watching. That being said, it doesn’t really move the needle to much for me, other than, like I said, it being transparently forced. I'm curious how this was forced. The puppeteer in this case was Korean-American. In the past, Sesame Street and the Muppets had puppeteers work on new characters that they felt represented themselves. I know Kevin Clash was best known for Elmo, but he's done any number of characters that we supposed to represent the African-American experience that he understood, like Clifford. I know it was only the introduction but I'm not sure what of the African American experience we were supposed to get from that interaction between Kermit and Clifford. I say this feels forced to me because of the timing. Violence towards Asian Americans seemed to be at the forefront of American consciousness in 2021. Sesame Street's response was "Let's have an Asian muppet!" imo For me it's similar to when DC wants to have more prominent gay characters. That's great! I want there to be more gay primary characters in comics, but when you basically decide to have an established character that wasn't gay in the past now be a gay character, well for me that's not an organic thing. It's forced. I'm not questioning this new character, I'm questioning the motivation and wondering if it comes from a place of sincerity. I also question the need for the puppeteer to be Asian American. Does this new muppet speak with an "Asian accent"? If not, what does it matter? But I also don't feel the voice of Carl Carlson on the Simpsons needed to be recast. |
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