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Post by rainbowbadger on Feb 9, 2022 14:33:59 GMT -5
Oh man, I love her. I'd follow her into battle. |
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Post by vbnerd on Feb 9, 2022 14:41:34 GMT -5
My favorite part of the coverage has been reading the claim that she was not looking to move. For someone not looking to move she applied for a rather large number of positions and was receptive to many approaches too. I have no problem at all with her looking to move and for interviewing for several attractive positions and for putting the word out that she was available to several who are regularly asked to make recommendations. I do not know what's gained by the pretense that she wasn't looking to move. Not everyone who applies for a job intends to take the job. I know a coach right now who was basically told if they want a raise at their current school, they need to show an offer and they'll try to match it. Honestly that seems like a good way to lose a coach but it does happen and we know she was in the process of renegotiating her deal because she just got a new contract. I don't know her and I don't know what happened, but even if what you say about applying for a lot of jobs is true (and I have no reason to doubt that) it doesn't mean that she was trying to accept them. |
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Post by abcd098 on Feb 9, 2022 14:56:22 GMT -5
For one thing, she only has 8 players on the roster. Also, everyone in the portal entered for greener pastures so as far as that goes a Michigan State player would be on equal footing with the others. 8 on the roster plus how many recruits? 4 recruits coming in. There are only 4 outsides/opposites on the roster if the four recruits come in. And only one setter. |
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Post by Wiswell on Feb 9, 2022 15:10:18 GMT -5
My favorite part of the coverage has been reading the claim that she was not looking to move. For someone not looking to move she applied for a rather large number of positions and was receptive to many approaches too. I have no problem at all with her looking to move and for interviewing for several attractive positions and for putting the word out that she was available to several who are regularly asked to make recommendations. I do not know what's gained by the pretense that she wasn't looking to move. Not everyone who applies for a job intends to take the job. I know a coach right now who was basically told if they want a raise at their current school, they need to show an offer and they'll try to match it. Honestly that seems like a good way to lose a coach but it does happen and we know she was in the process of renegotiating her deal because she just got a new contract. I don't know her and I don't know what happened, but even if what you say about applying for a lot of jobs is true (and I have no reason to doubt that) it doesn't mean that she was trying to accept them. Employers love to do this. We only care about your salary when you have someone else's offer in hand. Some employers even write this in their compensation policies. |
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Post by greenmachine on Feb 9, 2022 15:20:01 GMT -5
8 on the roster plus how many recruits? 4 recruits coming in. There are only 4 outsides/opposites on the roster if the four recruits come in. And only one setter. Looks like over half of the Illinois State team is now in the transfer portal so she may not have a hard time filling her roster out now. Good luck to whoever takes the ISU job because it just became a major rebuild |
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Feb 9, 2022 15:25:49 GMT -5
My favorite part of the coverage has been reading the claim that she was not looking to move. For someone not looking to move she applied for a rather large number of positions and was receptive to many approaches too. That probably helped in getting her extension, probably with a raise. I'm sure it's all very clandestine. |
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Post by n00b on Feb 9, 2022 15:52:23 GMT -5
4 recruits coming in. There are only 4 outsides/opposites on the roster if the four recruits come in. And only one setter. Looks like over half of the Illinois State team is now in the transfer portal so she may not have a hard time filling her roster out now. Good luck to whoever takes the ISU job because it just became a major rebuild Maybe. Everybody entering the portal when a coach leaves seems to be becoming standard operating procedure. When a new coach is hired, the athletes could certainly stay. For example, I bet if Notre Dame make their coaching change today instead of before the spring semester started, those athletes would’ve been slower to commit elsewhere and more would’ve stayed for Salima. Yes, some athletes might jump at a new opportunity. But there’s no rush to commit to a new school now. I see this as a ‘keeping option open’ move by most athletes. |
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Post by Boom! on Feb 9, 2022 15:54:52 GMT -5
My favorite part of the coverage has been reading the claim that she was not looking to move. For someone not looking to move she applied for a rather large number of positions and was receptive to many approaches too. I have no problem at all with her looking to move and for interviewing for several attractive positions and for putting the word out that she was available to several who are regularly asked to make recommendations. I do not know what's gained by the pretense that she wasn't looking to move. She has stuck with the volleyball coach route for a while and seems to have done fairly well for herself. But she definitely strikes me as a better fit for an administrative role such as SWA or eventually AD. |
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Post by trojansc on Feb 9, 2022 15:58:57 GMT -5
4 recruits coming in. There are only 4 outsides/opposites on the roster if the four recruits come in. And only one setter. Looks like over half of the Illinois State team is now in the transfer portal so she may not have a hard time filling her roster out now. Good luck to whoever takes the ISU job because it just became a major rebuild The Valley also is down, so it might not be as hard to be competent in conference. It’s just not the same conference when UNI was good, Stokes was at Mo State, Wichita was in the conference (and good). |
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Post by jumboshrimp on Feb 9, 2022 20:06:14 GMT -5
Most of the time in these scenarios, if you have to apply, you’re not getting the job. Schools like MSU have a list of coaches they have their eye on and are ready to reach out to when their coach retires or is let go. Leah was contacted and she responded. She didn’t initiate the contact.
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Post by badgerbreath on Feb 9, 2022 20:36:10 GMT -5
Not everyone who applies for a job intends to take the job. I know a coach right now who was basically told if they want a raise at their current school, they need to show an offer and they'll try to match it. Honestly that seems like a good way to lose a coach but it does happen and we know she was in the process of renegotiating her deal because she just got a new contract. I don't know her and I don't know what happened, but even if what you say about applying for a lot of jobs is true (and I have no reason to doubt that) it doesn't mean that she was trying to accept them. Employers love to do this. We only care about your salary when you have someone else's offer in hand. Some employers even write this in their compensation policies. Yeah, this is cynical reactive practice that inevitably rewards those that are least committed to an institution, at the expense of those who are most committed. I see this all the time. |
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Post by Wiswell on Feb 9, 2022 21:17:25 GMT -5
Some institutions are forced to have this as their policy when their legislature fails to fund faculty competitively to their peers. So this is their only way.
P. S. There is an undercurrent of negativity on this thread that I cannot place as to why.... I feel like it was same with the PSU hire. 🤔. It's like some type of coaches are expected to be nicer than others, for some reason ..
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Post by buckeyes0412 on Feb 9, 2022 21:25:39 GMT -5
Looks like over half of the Illinois State team is now in the transfer portal so she may not have a hard time filling her roster out now. Good luck to whoever takes the ISU job because it just became a major rebuild The Valley also is down, so it might not be as hard to be competent in conference. It’s just not the same conference when UNI was good, Stokes was at Mo State, Wichita was in the conference (and good). Wichita state hasn’t been in the conference for several years. But yes the conference is down and doesn’t help about Loyola |
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Post by jayj79 on Feb 9, 2022 21:46:13 GMT -5
Looks like over half of the Illinois State team is now in the transfer portal so she may not have a hard time filling her roster out now. Good luck to whoever takes the ISU job because it just became a major rebuild The Valley also is down, so it might not be as hard to be competent in conference. It’s just not the same conference when UNI was good, Stokes was at Mo State, Wichita was in the conference (and good). UNI was hamstrung last year (both the spring season and the fall season) with would-be-seniors not coming back after the 2020 season was pushed to spring, and some season-ending injuries that carried over to both seasons. I could see them getting back to something more closely resembling their usual form if the injured players are back this fall, and with the addition of Sydney Petersen in the back row (which was an area they really struggled with last year) coming in as a grad transfer from Texas. |
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Post by trojansc on Feb 9, 2022 21:50:38 GMT -5
The Valley also is down, so it might not be as hard to be competent in conference. It’s just not the same conference when UNI was good, Stokes was at Mo State, Wichita was in the conference (and good). Wichita state hasn’t been in the conference for several years. But yes the conference is down and doesn’t help about Loyola Yes, that's the point, since they left, the conference's level took a hit. The conference is even further down now, but since Wichita State's departure, it hasn't been the same. Of course, it's not like Wichita State has even had a ton of success in the American. They dominated the conference in its inaugural season, but lost some really good players after that season, and since then they just haven't been the same. They didn't even qualify for the two conference tournaments the American had in 2019 and 2020* season. |
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