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Post by notvballdad on Jul 16, 2023 21:13:31 GMT -5
Yes, they are all on the team too. Curious to see how it all works next year. I'm 99% sure they'll go back to a 6-2 os they'll have the extra pin and maybe Suli and Jayden play 1 Ro on the OH and 2 on the RS. Don't know. Will be interesting to watch for sure. Maybe they keep they keep the 5-1 and rotate the OH pairings? I don't believe so. Camille Edwards is obviously the incumbent but Carson E. from Drive is going to TAV 18 Black as well and she's not going there to sit on the bench or Camille wouldn't be staying to sit on the bench. I can't imagine she would have gone there if Carlos told her he was running a 5-1. |
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Jul 16, 2023 21:22:02 GMT -5
Maybe they keep they keep the 5-1 and rotate the OH pairings? I don't believe so. Camille Edwards is obviously the incumbent but Carson E. from Drive is going to TAV 18 Black as well and she's not going there to sit on the bench or Camille wouldn't be staying to sit on the bench. I can't imagine she would have gone there if Carlos told her he was running a 5-1. Didn’t Jonny run a 5-1, alternating sets between Camille and Harper Hall? Possible Carlos does the same? That’s a stacked team with lots of hitting talent. It will be interesting to watch it all play out. |
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Jul 16, 2023 21:25:43 GMT -5
Any word on where Layla Austin from skyline 15Royal is playing? I don’t recall seeing her in the team picture. Don’t know much about her but I know she put out a heck of a social media campaign.
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Post by notvballdad on Jul 16, 2023 21:49:04 GMT -5
I don't believe so. Camille Edwards is obviously the incumbent but Carson E. from Drive is going to TAV 18 Black as well and she's not going there to sit on the bench or Camille wouldn't be staying to sit on the bench. I can't imagine she would have gone there if Carlos told her he was running a 5-1. Didn’t Jonny run a 5-1, alternating sets between Camille and Harper Hall? Possible Carlos does the same? That’s a stacked team with lots of hitting talent. It will be interesting to watch it all play out. Yes, Jonny did do that but that was more about keeping Livings on the court as much as possible for offense. When you have the option to go back to having all 3 hitters with 2 setters of that caliber and the physicality that Suli brings as a blocker, I would think you would want to minimize the blocking liability that setters present on the right if you have that luxury. Its all speculation and we'll see soon enough. Its fun to try to predict but what a problem to have to work through that kind of depth to try to figure it out. Carlos should have some fun. |
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Post by outlaw on Jul 16, 2023 22:08:11 GMT -5
I don't believe so. Camille Edwards is obviously the incumbent but Carson E. from Drive is going to TAV 18 Black as well and she's not going there to sit on the bench or Camille wouldn't be staying to sit on the bench. I can't imagine she would have gone there if Carlos told her he was running a 5-1. Didn’t Jonny run a 5-1, alternating sets between Camille and Harper Hall? Possible Carlos does the same? That’s a stacked team with lots of hitting talent. It will be interesting to watch it all play out. Yeah I was intrigued at the amount of times Edwards was subbed out |
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Jul 17, 2023 8:02:17 GMT -5
Safe to say the following should be the top teams?? (on paper anyways)
18s - TAV 18 Black (will DN 18's be competitive next year? Wondered how many will leave early and aren't playing 18s. I know their libero from this season did)
17s - TAV 17B-Jonny & Skyline 17 Royal I think will battle it out. Both have strong rosters from what I am seeing.
16s - Skyline 16 Royal
15s - TAV 15 Black
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Post by notvballdad on Jul 17, 2023 13:09:10 GMT -5
Safe to say the following should be the top teams?? (on paper anyways) 18s - TAV 18 Black (will DN 18's be competitive next year? Wondered how many will leave early and aren't playing 18s. I know their libero from this season did) 17s - TAV 17B-Jonny & Skyline 17 Royal I think will battle it out. Both have strong rosters from what I am seeing. 16s - Skyline 16 Royal 15s - TAV 15 Black I believe TAV 18 Black will run away regionally if they maintain a reasonable level of ball control. Madfrog 18 green did a nice job putting some pieces together as well although they do lose Pyles which is a big loss from going to school early. DN 18s will be regionally competitive as there are quite a few teams that will all likely mush together around the #4ish ranking in North Texas. I'm intrigued to see how Skyline 18 royal does. Their best quality as a team last year was chemistry and playing as a team and they've had a lot of turnover of key pieces that were team kids that made that engine run. Don't know enough about the younger age groups to tell you much other than Jonny's team looks like it is stout. I'm not a Ping fan and Ping hasn't gotten the most out of his rosters in a while. At 16s Yuns team got bigger and more skilled and love what he does developing the kids all around. That team should be pretty amazing. |
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Jul 18, 2023 14:22:56 GMT -5
Is it common to see so much movement with teams? It seems the last couple of years teams are keeping less than half of their players. I would think doing so makes it hard to establish connections. Some of the teams in other areas seem to have a leg up because they've played together for years, only changing a couple of players.
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Post by notvballdad on Jul 18, 2023 15:18:23 GMT -5
Is it common to see so much movement with teams? It seems the last couple of years teams are keeping less than half of their players. I would think doing so makes it hard to establish connections. Some of the teams in other areas seem to have a leg up because they've played together for years, only changing a couple of players. Unfortunately, it is becoming common. There are a lot of factors that have created it over the last couple of years in North Texas with tons of coach movement, to some degree its been the same coaches moving a lot so they are culprits. You have Drive Nation doing whatever it is doing that caused a scatter. Other clubs are joining the movement of moving large chunks of players because others did it before (see Skyline 18 this coming year and to some degree Madfrog). You are absolutely right. Traditionally, there hasn't been anywhere near this level of movement in other areas. It hurts the teams but it also hurts the players and their development. There isn't a lot of continuity. Other areas have groups that develop and grow together. Dynasty is incredibly talented for sure but there's no way that that group being together for as long as they have been didn't help them when on piece went down. There's years of trust and familiarity that have been built there. It scares me to see other areas beginning to adopt a similar calendar to North Texas in terms of tryouts. I sure hope this other trend doesn't catch on, but I don't see how it doesn't when winning at the club level seems to be all the matters and development is secondary to winning. The movement is also not necessarily player driven. Its not necessarily kids that are not content with playing time, etc. There are a lot of coaches cutting lots of players and telling them they don't have spots forcing lots of players into the marketplace. So I think you are very right. It hurts continuity and connections. And then the silly tryout date right after nationals has emboldened coaches to start cutting the kids before Lone Star so the last qualifier is more speed dating trying to find a home. So North Texas teams go to Nationals with less familiarity (except the TAV core which has played club and school ball together since they were 13) and no commitment from the club and we wonder why teams that have had a good regular season under perform when they get to nationals. It would be awesome for kids to find a home and build a sense of identity in the club home and clubs show loyalty to build that sense of identity and investment rather than the year to year dance that happens. |
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Jul 18, 2023 16:15:43 GMT -5
Is it common to see so much movement with teams? It seems the last couple of years teams are keeping less than half of their players. I would think doing so makes it hard to establish connections. Some of the teams in other areas seem to have a leg up because they've played together for years, only changing a couple of players. Unfortunately, it is becoming common. There are a lot of factors that have created it over the last couple of years in North Texas with tons of coach movement, to some degree its been the same coaches moving a lot so they are culprits. You have Drive Nation doing whatever it is doing that caused a scatter. Other clubs are joining the movement of moving large chunks of players because others did it before (see Skyline 18 this coming year and to some degree Madfrog). You are absolutely right. Traditionally, there hasn't been anywhere near this level of movement in other areas. It hurts the teams but it also hurts the players and their development. There isn't a lot of continuity. Other areas have groups that develop and grow together. Dynasty is incredibly talented for sure but there's no way that that group being together for as long as they have been didn't help them when on piece went down. There's years of trust and familiarity that have been built there. It scares me to see other areas beginning to adopt a similar calendar to North Texas in terms of tryouts. I sure hope this other trend doesn't catch on, but I don't see how it doesn't when winning at the club level seems to be all the matters and development is secondary to winning. The movement is also not necessarily player driven. Its not necessarily kids that are not content with playing time, etc. There are a lot of coaches cutting lots of players and telling them they don't have spots forcing lots of players into the marketplace. So I think you are very right. It hurts continuity and connections. And then the silly tryout date right after nationals has emboldened coaches to start cutting the kids before Lone Star so the last qualifier is more speed dating trying to find a home. So North Texas teams go to Nationals with less familiarity (except the TAV core which has played club and school ball together since they were 13) and no commitment from the club and we wonder why teams that have had a good regular season under perform when they get to nationals. It would be awesome for kids to find a home and build a sense of identity in the club home and clubs show loyalty to build that sense of identity and investment rather than the year to year dance that happens. Dynasty is exactly who I was thinking of when I posted. Their teams don't seem to change and it absolutely helps them. Yes, TAV's 18-Black has been together forever, but besides them, everyone else seems to be forever changing. I haven't heard anything about Skyline's 18 for this coming year so not sure how they will pan out. I know they (17Royal) seemed strong throughout season but flopped at Nationals (they were in a pretty tough pool and couldn't seem to climb out of the hole.) I agree, from what I've seen it's not player driven. Interesting that one coach will love something in a player and the next year's coach will give that same player a hard pass. A lot of these coaches like to collect top talent but don't think about the chemistry. A bunch of "superstars" on a team, don't necessarily work. I was able figure out rosters for the 17's level for the top 4 clubs, and I don't think there is a single club keeping more than 4 players from this season. Practically rebuilding a team each year. |
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Post by florfresh on Jul 24, 2023 20:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by vballPeakish23 on Jul 26, 2023 23:17:44 GMT -5
Any word on where Layla Austin from skyline 15Royal is playing? I don’t recall seeing her in the team picture. Don’t know much about her but I know she put out a heck of a social media campaign. She is at TAV this year. |
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Aug 7, 2023 21:13:29 GMT -5
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Aug 7, 2023 21:17:53 GMT -5
As suspected, looks like TAV isn’t splitting talent amongst their two top (black) teams. While both will attempt to qualify in open, there is definitely one higher level squad. http://instagram.com/p/CvpkbqELmXA |
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Mar 12, 2024 9:57:40 GMT -5
Just when you thought things couldn't get worse with NTR tryouts...they move the date up. I've heard of one club already giving offers to their current players, trying to lock them in for next season. Imagine being one of the players not given that automatic invite?! How are you supposed to stay loyal and play for a team/club that has already written you off. Qualifier season has just started. I can't help but think this is going to be disastrous.
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