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Post by vollem on Aug 18, 2022 0:05:07 GMT -5
I voted Minnesota 3-1 and that was me being optimistic. While I don’t predict a win, I do think this team goes down swinging. The team is young, but all of the new players except for Denney and Talbert have been training on campus since January which means Carlson has been establishing connections for 7+ months now and the other young players have been getting reps in a competitive practice gym. The freshmen all played prominent roles in spring matches, and if you didn’t catch the game against Texas, it was a grand environment for spring. While Baylor didn’t take a set off of UT, they only lost two of the sets by 2 points and played really competitive volleyball. That was back in April and they were without Harrison and Talbert. I’m hoping that spring experience + playing at a neutral site (a familiar gym only 1.5 hours away from Waco) will lessen the jitters some. Hey, fwiw, Baylor has some scary talent. They just happened to graduate a NPOY who made any team shiver. I think they'll have raw talent and power but will need a couple months to make it click. While Minny lost Samedy, I'm hoping Shaff improves with distribution (to what extent that was trust with hitters, idk) so the Gopher offense will look different out of sheer necessity. They do return more of their previous season's lineup while Baylor has some very talented but inexperienced (at NCAA) freshmen. I do recall the libero apparent being solid in the post season, though. |
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Post by legolas9 on Aug 18, 2022 11:44:45 GMT -5
I am not saying Harrison is bad, I am more referring to a point that their outsides are weak in my opinion compared to other top 20 teams. A lot of question marks to if Harrison can be the go to,I guess I don’t have a thought on Simpson. The times I have seen McGhee in at right side she just never scored. We will see soon, just think that position group has to get a lot better for them to be a top team But what are you even using as a baseline to say they are weak? The position is definitely the most questionable and the players unproven, yes. But if if it’s unproven that they are capable of contributing, it’s also still unproven that they are a weakness. Harrison, however, has already shown that she is a consistent offensive weapon. We really don’t know how Keene, Dacosta, or Simpson will perform at the college level yet. Even if they don’t offer as much offensively, good passing would make up for some of it. Baylor had the #4 ranked recruiting class, with two outsides being part of it. I’m going to give them a chance to prove that they can contribute before just writing them off as weak. Ha I’m not attacking anyone. Again, I said I think their outsides are weak when compared to other top teams. Sure, they haven’t played a ton which I would say is a weakness. If they come out and crush it then that will change my mind. The one person who did play, Harrison was decent at attacking and not a good passer. She also had Avery Skinner and Yossi that the defense was constantly worried about. The block was not as worried about Harrison. She will now be the main focus, how does she handle that? Sure passing can help a ton, Briseno is great. Harrison is not, jury is out on the others. One of those high school recruit all American outside hitters isn’t playing outside hitter. We will see how it shakes out, I don’t think it is wild to say “hey baylors outsides are weak compared to the other top teams in the country” heck just off experience alone. |
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Post by houstonbear15 on Aug 18, 2022 13:40:58 GMT -5
But what are you even using as a baseline to say they are weak? The position is definitely the most questionable and the players unproven, yes. But if if it’s unproven that they are capable of contributing, it’s also still unproven that they are a weakness. Harrison, however, has already shown that she is a consistent offensive weapon. We really don’t know how Keene, Dacosta, or Simpson will perform at the college level yet. Even if they don’t offer as much offensively, good passing would make up for some of it. Baylor had the #4 ranked recruiting class, with two outsides being part of it. I’m going to give them a chance to prove that they can contribute before just writing them off as weak. Ha I’m not attacking anyone. Again, I said I think their outsides are weak when compared to other top teams. Sure, they haven’t played a ton which I would say is a weakness. If they come out and crush it then that will change my mind. The one person who did play, Harrison was decent at attacking and not a good passer. She also had Avery Skinner and Yossi that the defense was constantly worried about. The block was not as worried about Harrison. She will now be the main focus, how does she handle that? Sure passing can help a ton, Briseno is great. Harrison is not, jury is out on the others. One of those high school recruit all American outside hitters isn’t playing outside hitter. We will see how it shakes out, I don’t think it is wild to say “hey baylors outsides are weak compared to the other top teams in the country” heck just off experience alone. I know you’re not attacking anyone, but you said the position group needs to “get a lot better.” What I’m asking is how do you know that when we are unsure who the other outside will even be? 3 of the options haven’t played a college match yet, so no one knows what their baseline is. You can’t even say what part of the game they need to be better at, because it is unknown. Inexperience CAN show up as a weakness, but if you want to automatically equate that as the player being weak, keep in mind Minnesota is expected to start an inexperienced outside as well. But back to Harrison… anyone who has seen Baylor play over the last two seasons knows that she is more than just decent at attacking. She has shown that she can be a consistent scorer, has great rhythm on the give and go when passing from both pins, and can get a kill when out of system. She’s an All-American and has been first-team in conference in all 3 of her seasons. Harrison is good. She’s also made huge strides in her serve receive and passed well last season. I’m not sure what her final stat was, but half way through the season she was at around a 57% good pass percentage. Outside of Pressley (and Harrison in her first year), Baylor has had very good passing OHs and DS’s. McGuyre has had his freshman DS’s ready to contribute year after year (Wulf, Bramschreiber, Bowden, and Briseño). I wouldn’t expect anything less this season. Good passing will be important with the experience that Baylor has in the middle. |
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Post by mnvb56 on Aug 19, 2022 12:54:09 GMT -5
I posted this on the Minnesota 2022 thread, but thought some folks here might also be interested--it's a "Gopher Talk" interview with Hugh about the Gopher scrimmage tomorrow, but also about the match with Baylor next week: volleyball-gopher-talk-hugh-mccutcheon |
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Post by raptor patrol on Aug 20, 2022 13:51:41 GMT -5
Any bars in the downtown Minneapolis area likely to show this match? I'm staying near US Bank stadium next weekend and would like to catch this matchup.
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Post by Wiswell on Aug 20, 2022 18:10:23 GMT -5
May it be a repeat of the last matchup.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 20:28:41 GMT -5
Any bars in the downtown Minneapolis area likely to show this match? I'm staying near US Bank stadium next weekend and would like to catch this matchup. I do not think this match is being televised in general unfortunately, unless something changes this week. |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Aug 20, 2022 20:39:25 GMT -5
Any bars in the downtown Minneapolis area likely to show this match? I'm staying near US Bank stadium next weekend and would like to catch this matchup. I do not think this match is being televised in general unfortunately, unless something changes this week. It might/should be televised on ESPN+. We are waiting for them to update the schedule to include the link. |
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Aug 21, 2022 17:04:28 GMT -5
I still have no link to the game but I will keep trying.
After the Gopher's scrimmage, I'm pretty sure I have the lineup wrong, but I don't know what will be correct.
Also, after reading the discussion about Baylor - the lineup I posted is probably also wrong. I will correct it after the game. LOL.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 21, 2022 17:11:17 GMT -5
I still have no link to the game but I will keep trying. After the Gopher's scrimmage, I'm pretty sure I have the lineup wrong, but I don't know what will be correct. Also, After reading the discussion about Baylor - the lineup I posted is probably also wrong. I will correct it after the game. LOL. I feel like you’re in a pitchfork free zone. Part of the fun of these early bouts is watching the lineups solidify. |
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Post by houstonbear15 on Aug 21, 2022 17:27:20 GMT -5
I still have no link to the game but I will keep trying. After the Gopher's scrimmage, I'm pretty sure I have the lineup wrong, but I don't know what will be correct. Also, after reading the discussion about Baylor - the lineup I posted is probably also wrong. I will correct it after the game. LOL. Your Baylor lineup is mostly right. Just Dacosta DS for Simpson and Keene DS for Sczech |
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Post by volleycoachiq on Aug 21, 2022 17:35:08 GMT -5
I still have no link to the game but I will keep trying. After the Gopher's scrimmage, I'm pretty sure I have the lineup wrong, but I don't know what will be correct. Also, after reading the discussion about Baylor - the lineup I posted is probably also wrong. I will correct it after the game. LOL. Your Baylor lineup is mostly right. Just Dacosta DS for Simpson and Keene DS for Sczech yesterday Davis also played for Simpson front row and E. McGhee can in at opp and was the spark Baylor needed to beta TAMU in 5. So it still feels like the line-up is in the air. With that said based on the stats on the game, Simpson > Davis and E. McGhee > Sczech. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2022 9:44:10 GMT -5
I do not think this match is being televised in general unfortunately, unless something changes this week. It might/should be televised on ESPN+. We are waiting for them to update the schedule to include the link.
If it's going to be on ESPN+, it will show up there. As of now, it's just the two TCU "home" matches, since they're hosting. I suspect the broadcast agreements only allow for such. Otherwise, they know full well that many Baylor, Wisc, and Minny fans would want to tune in.
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Post by legolas9 on Aug 22, 2022 10:19:22 GMT -5
I think it will eventually, but just not in Fort Worth against the loaded Golden Gophers. Right now Baylor is too young and inexperienced. 3-0 is the likely outcome, but maybe Baylor can take a set and make it 3-1. I voted Minnesota 3-1 and that was me being optimistic. While I don’t predict a win, I do think this team goes down swinging. The team is young, but all of the new players except for Denney and Talbert have been training on campus since January which means Carlson has been establishing connections for 7+ months now and the other young players have been getting reps in a competitive practice gym. The freshmen all played prominent roles in spring matches, and if you didn’t catch the game against Texas, it was a grand environment for spring. While Baylor didn’t take a set off of UT, they only lost two of the sets by 2 points and played really competitive volleyball. That was back in April and they were without Harrison and Talbert. I’m hoping that spring experience + playing at a neutral site (a familiar gym only 1.5 hours away from Waco) will lessen the jitters some. Did you see the exhibition? Not trying to be negative to Baylor, genuinely curious of your thoughts? A&M is picked 10th I think in sec, going 5 was a surprise. But I know there are many factors in these tune up games. |
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Post by volleycoachiq on Aug 22, 2022 11:03:32 GMT -5
I voted Minnesota 3-1 and that was me being optimistic. While I don’t predict a win, I do think this team goes down swinging. The team is young, but all of the new players except for Denney and Talbert have been training on campus since January which means Carlson has been establishing connections for 7+ months now and the other young players have been getting reps in a competitive practice gym. The freshmen all played prominent roles in spring matches, and if you didn’t catch the game against Texas, it was a grand environment for spring. While Baylor didn’t take a set off of UT, they only lost two of the sets by 2 points and played really competitive volleyball. That was back in April and they were without Harrison and Talbert. I’m hoping that spring experience + playing at a neutral site (a familiar gym only 1.5 hours away from Waco) will lessen the jitters some. Did you see the exhibition? Not trying to be negative to Baylor, genuinely curious of your thoughts? A&M is picked 10th I think in sec, going 5 was a surprise. But I know there are many factors in these tune up games. The sets A&M won were close. Baylor middles K. McGhee and Talbert both hit .500 and the starting outsides Harrison and Simpson both hit over .300. Very balanced offence post-Pressley. Based on the stats, the freshmen rightside Sczech struggled as she hit negative. Baylor gained a spark when they put in E. McGhee at opp. Davis also played a bit but hit under .100, so don't think she sold herself with a starting outside spot. Baylor had a lot of serving errors, particularly from the freshmen. It sounds like some of the struggle was trying to find their line-up. But based on that match at least, it became clear who should start. Baylor also is young. Their growth curve will be good throughout the season but I would not be surprised with some early loses. |
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