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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 26, 2022 7:38:45 GMT -5
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 26, 2022 9:35:53 GMT -5
Punzel review of badgers going into season and weekend matchups. Some overviews of the frogs and the bears.
Interestingly, he talks about Robinson as a RS who will shift to middle to replace Hart. He talks about CC as the fixed starter at middle. I have Robinson at top of the depth chart at middle during Hart's recovery. And Smrek as #1 RS. Anyway, that part all seemed very confusing to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 9:55:00 GMT -5
Lot of uncertainty makes for an exciting game this evening.
How much will Hart play? I say a total of 3 sets over the 2 games. Her pitch count if you will.
I predict miss orzol to be the kills leader tonight.
I'll go along with others in that we'll give the 6-2 a look tonight.
So Boyer will then be our #1 serving specialist or will she fill Civitas role?? Can't wait to see tonights results.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 26, 2022 11:28:05 GMT -5
Lot of uncertainty makes for an exciting game this evening. How much will Hart play? I say a total of 3 sets over the 2 games. Her pitch count if you will. I predict miss orzol to be the kills leader tonight. I'll go along with others in that we'll give the 6-2 a look tonight. So Boyer will then be our #1 serving specialist or will she fill Civitas role?? Can't wait to see tonights results. If the badgers run a 6-2, I'm guessing Franklin plays 6 rotations, at least at first. They may not need a DS -- Orzol, Franklin and Gulce will always be passing. Boyer's serve has been pretty effective, so she would be a good SS in that case. If they use a DS as a primary ball handler to stabilize passing it will be to sub Franklin in the backrow. I'm going out on the limb and guess it will be AnnaMac in that case, simply based on the hierarchy implied by the scrimmage. I don't know a lot about her serve either, though. It's a good question who will be the regular servers. Orzol, Franklin, Ashburn, are given. Demps would be too, if she hits on the right. Two or three spaces in service rotation left. Robinson? Smrek? CC? Hammill? Wrobel? I don't know much about any of them from the service line. Do they need a serving sub?
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Post by robtearle on Aug 26, 2022 11:55:17 GMT -5
Lot of uncertainty makes for an exciting game this evening. How much will Hart play? I say a total of 3 sets over the 2 games. Her pitch count if you will. I predict miss orzol to be the kills leader tonight. I'll go along with others in that we'll give the 6-2 a look tonight. So Boyer will then be our #1 serving specialist or will she fill Civitas role?? Can't wait to see tonights results. If the badgers run a 6-2, I'm guessing Franklin plays 6 rotations, at least at first. They may not need a DS -- Orzol, Franklin and Gulce will always be passing. Boyer's serve has been pretty effective, so she would be a good SS in that case. If they use a DS as a primary ball handler to stabilize passing it will be to sub Franklin in the backrow. I'm going out on the limb and guess it will be AnnaMac in that case, simply based on the hierarchy implied by the scrimmage. I don't know a lot about her serve either, though. It's a good question who will be the regular servers. Orzol, Franklin, Ashburn, are given. Demps would be too, if she hits on the right. Two or three spaces in service rotation left. Robinson? Smrek? CC? Hammill? Wrobel? I don't know much about any of them from the service line. Do they need a serving sub? AnnaMac has a pretty good, flat no-spin serve. If they are playing a 6-2 and Demps is one of the right-side opposites, for her to serve would mean that they are delaying the opp-for-setter substitution for the half rotation while Demps serves, meaning no setter at all for that half rotation. Possible, but *highly* unlikely. If its a 6-2 and Orzol and Franklin are playing six rotation, there will likely be no DS and no serving sub.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 26, 2022 12:22:19 GMT -5
If the badgers run a 6-2, I'm guessing Franklin plays 6 rotations, at least at first. They may not need a DS -- Orzol, Franklin and Gulce will always be passing. Boyer's serve has been pretty effective, so she would be a good SS in that case. If they use a DS as a primary ball handler to stabilize passing it will be to sub Franklin in the backrow. I'm going out on the limb and guess it will be AnnaMac in that case, simply based on the hierarchy implied by the scrimmage. I don't know a lot about her serve either, though. It's a good question who will be the regular servers. Orzol, Franklin, Ashburn, are given. Demps would be too, if she hits on the right. Two or three spaces in service rotation left. Robinson? Smrek? CC? Hammill? Wrobel? I don't know much about any of them from the service line. Do they need a serving sub? AnnaMac has a pretty good, flat no-spin serve. If they are playing a 6-2 and Demps is one of the right-side opposites, for her to serve would mean that they are delaying the opp-for-setter substitution for the half rotation while Demps serves, meaning on setter at all for that half rotation. Possible, but *highly* unlikely. If its a 6-2 and Orzol and Franklin are playing six rotation, there will likely be no DS and no serving sub. Oh, I think there will be serving subs. Sheff has never not used them. It just won't be as regular part of the rotation as Ashburn was as SS. She was/is so unusual in her effectiveness from the line that it was worth regularly losing a sub for her serve. As for whether Demps is allowed to serve, I was thinking it would be for Hammill in a 6-2. I have not felt Hammill's serve generally caused enough disruption in the past, and the coaches could easily come around to the idea that having Demps serve has more upside than having a setter when you have a terminal pin hitter or two to go to, and a good block at the net. Hugh has done that often at Minnesota through the years.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 26, 2022 12:40:31 GMT -5
AnnaMac has a pretty good, flat no-spin serve. If they are playing a 6-2 and Demps is one of the right-side opposites, for her to serve would mean that they are delaying the opp-for-setter substitution for the half rotation while Demps serves, meaning on setter at all for that half rotation. Possible, but *highly* unlikely. If its a 6-2 and Orzol and Franklin are playing six rotation, there will likely be no DS and no serving sub. Oh, I think there will be serving subs. Sheff has never not used them. It just won't be as regular part of the rotation as Ashburn was as SS. She was/is so unusual in her effectiveness from the line that it was worth regularly losing a sub for her serve. As for whether Demps is allowed to serve, I was thinking it would be for Hammill in a 6-2. I have not felt her serve generally caused enough disruption in the past, and the coaches could easily come around to the idea that having Demps serve has more upside than having a setter when you have a terminal pin hitter or two to go to, and a good block at the net. Hugh has done that often at Minnesota through the years. In the recent past, Sheffield has not shied away form using 6 subs per rotation, and in "2020" and 2021 part of using those was Izzy subbing in to serve for Dana. But in 2019, Izzy wasn't a serving sub per se; Dana served for herself. Most of the time they were subbing both lefts and the opposite, with those subs - Izzy, Barnes, and ME Dodge - playing three rotations across the back. "The O line" as Karch dubbed them. Yes, I'm aware that Minn would sometimes go a half-rotation with no setter. I never thought it was all that effective, and probably said as much about Shaffmaster as anything else. In a 6-2, you're using four subs per six position rotation before you even think about anything else. If you throw in a serving sub or DS on top of that, you go up to six subs per rotation. And in a tight back-and-forth sideout set, you can/will run out of subs. So you have to have a 'Plan B'. A Plan B of reverting to 5-1 and having either Izzy or MJ just stay in and play across the front is certainly OK. But what about the opposites? Demps reverts to six-rotation? I'm not sure a Demps serve or an AnnaMac serve (and better defense in her case) instead of MJ or Crawford is worth it for as often as it might force you into Plan B. But we'll see.
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Post by Wiswell on Aug 26, 2022 17:47:41 GMT -5
Sorry to interrupt the SB discussion, but there is a match tonight!
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Post by savannahbadger on Aug 26, 2022 17:55:12 GMT -5
Sorry to interrupt the SB discussion, but there is a match tonight! Still set for 7pm CDT, or are there any delays from earlier matches?
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Post by robtearle on Aug 26, 2022 17:58:16 GMT -5
Sorry to interrupt the SB discussion, but there is a match tonight! Still set for 7pm CDT, or are there any delays from earlier matches? Minn Baylor just ended - Minn wins 3-1 - so an hour in between, we should be easily on schedule.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 26, 2022 18:00:54 GMT -5
So what are the chances Sheffield was using Punzel to sandbag us, and in an hour we see an MJ led 5-1 offense?
:-)
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Post by savannahbadger on Aug 26, 2022 18:01:39 GMT -5
So what are the chances Sheffield was using Punzel to sandbag us, and in an hour we see an MJ led 5-1 offense? :-) About the same as Shanel seeing the court tonight.
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Post by ndodge on Aug 26, 2022 18:27:50 GMT -5
Boyer in sweats not warming up
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Post by robtearle on Aug 26, 2022 18:35:12 GMT -5
Boyer in sweats not warming up Boo All the more likely that Orzol and Franklin go 6-around.
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Post by Del Bocavista on Aug 26, 2022 18:40:06 GMT -5
Damn, I liked the possibility of Boyer stepping up in Shanel's absence.
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