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Post by Fight On! on Sept 25, 2022 15:49:42 GMT -5
Kevin has to prove he can actually coach. One year with Poulter and Bastinelli, ILL didn’t even make the tournament. Then he inherited a National Champ team with a core of Sophomores and they kept winning for him. But we don’t know what he really did to influence anything. At least he didn’t make them worse, I guess. To be clear, I am not trying to dog the guy. He has two Nattys. I just think there are more questions than answers. I'd say the best thing he did was train up Tami Alade for the 2018 run. Other than that it was pretty much auto-pilot. Just compare Stanford's 2018 and 2019 ball control to now -- absolutely night and day. A former MB, training a MB. Makes sense. Didn’t he let Cassidy go? Who’s teaching the passing?
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Post by liberosetter101 on Sept 25, 2022 15:50:03 GMT -5
I obvi want Stanford to win the PAC, but if it’s not gonna be them I don’t mind Oregon Just no more Washington please!!!!
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Post by slxpress on Sept 25, 2022 15:50:47 GMT -5
Kevin has to prove he can actually coach. One year with Poulter and Bastinelli, ILL didn’t even make the tournament. Then he inherited a National Champ team with a core of Sophomores and they kept winning for him. But we don’t know what he really did to influence anything. At least he didn’t make them worse, I guess. To be clear, I am not trying to dog the guy. He has two Nattys. I just think there are more questions than answers. This. I want to like Hambly, but I was pretty surprised when they picked him as the new HC. Yes he took Illinois to the championship match in 2011….but like….that’s it? Who would have been a more no brainer hire? They weren't going to get Russ Rose or John Cook. Or even Jerritt Elliott. There are some names I'd go for now. Especially DBK at Louisville. But I don't see Hambly as some kind of terrible hire at all.
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Post by Fight On! on Sept 25, 2022 15:52:58 GMT -5
This. I want to like Hambly, but I was pretty surprised when they picked him as the new HC. Yes he took Illinois to the championship match in 2011….but like….that’s it? Who would have been a more no brainer hire? They weren't going to get Russ Rose or John Cook. Or even Jerritt Elliott. There are some names I'd go for now. Especially DBK at Louisville. But I don't see Hambly as some kind of terrible hire at all. Brent Crouch. Lol.
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Post by anastasia1 on Sept 25, 2022 15:53:19 GMT -5
alright i didnt watch someone give me a quick summary on what happened? did Kipp do anything? did Baird do anything? is it worth rewatching?
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Post by bayarea on Sept 25, 2022 15:56:07 GMT -5
Miner had twice as many (6) attacks as Smith (3)?
Hmm. I know the passing was horrible, but still.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 25, 2022 15:59:48 GMT -5
Same thing was said about Dunning. You don't just roll the ball on the court and win a national championship. Stanford rightfully has high expectations and the last two years don't cut it at all, but this year's team has shown signs of getting back on track. And then, like today, it shows signs of just barreling into a ditch. But it's certainly not like it was the last two years. But Dunning proved over time that he was the real deal. Kevvy still needs time to do that, or not. Right. I'm just pointing out the same things were said about Dunning. Look, it doesn't matter what your resume says if the team isn't up to standard. And Stanford's standard in women's volleyball is as high as it gets. But to dismiss his national championship because they weren't his players is farcical to me. Stanford had two really bad seasons for understandable reasons. This season has been very up and down, but there have been some important ups, and there are pieces to be a top ten team for sure. I watch Minnesota get swept by Purdue. I watch Michigan blitzkrieg an undefeated Penn State. I watch teams like Texas go five sets to KU, or USD do the same versus LMU. There's still plenty of time for any team to put it together for the tournament. Lots of talk here about 2012 and that Oregon team. The Texas team that beat them looked like hammered sh*t at this point of the season that year. I think it's fair to ask the questions, but it's too soon to come to any kind of conclusive answer. It wouldn't even be much of an issue if it was anywhere but Stanford, but it is what it is. Virtually any coach outside of the power houses would do anything to get the head coaching job in Palo Alto, so Stanford will have their pick when the time comes. This year doesn't look like it's going to be it regardless, though. Hambly will have more time. We'll see what happens.
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Post by Fight On! on Sept 25, 2022 16:00:03 GMT -5
alright i didnt watch someone give me a quick summary on what happened? did Kipp do anything? did Baird do anything? is it worth rewatching? Don’t watch. Unless you’re a Ducks fan or a masochist.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 25, 2022 16:00:44 GMT -5
alright i didnt watch someone give me a quick summary on what happened? did Kipp do anything? did Baird do anything? is it worth rewatching? 2nd set is worth watching. Set 3 was a complete beat down.
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Post by montlakemouse on Sept 25, 2022 16:07:57 GMT -5
Thorough, very thorough, rout. That 3rd set was extremely one sided. Stanford made a mini run to make the score look semi respectable. I don't know. Missing Francis was an issue, but it was hardly the only issue. It was in Eugene, so there's a return match coming up. These two teams still look to be the frontrunners for Pac champion. But Stanford is so hot and cold. Along with it seems like all the teams in any kind of projected top 10. No return match. Stan-Ore only scheduled play once this year.
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Post by hammer on Sept 25, 2022 16:10:38 GMT -5
I'd say the best thing he did was train up Tami Alade for the 2018 run. Other than that it was pretty much auto-pilot. Just compare Stanford's 2018 and 2019 ball control to now -- absolutely night and day. A former MB, training a MB. Makes sense. Didn’t he let Cassidy go? Who’s teaching the passing? No, I think she wanted to move on and do other things. But there has been a lot of turnover on his staff during the COVID era. Best I can tell, none of this has been his fault. Passing coach is probably either Alex Dunphy or Mike Johnson, both are new to the staff this year.
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Post by Fight On! on Sept 25, 2022 16:12:23 GMT -5
A former MB, training a MB. Makes sense. Didn’t he let Cassidy go? Who’s teaching the passing? No, I think she wanted to move on and do other things. But there has been a lot of turnover on his staff during the COVID era. Best I can tell, none of this has been his fault. Passing coach is probably either Alex Dunphy or Mike Johnson, both are new to the staff this year. I mean, I have been tearing apart USC’s passing coach this year, so I am equal opportunity offender. Lol. But Dunphy was a setter. I have no clue who Mike J. is.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 25, 2022 16:12:35 GMT -5
A former MB, training a MB. Makes sense. Didn’t he let Cassidy go? Who’s teaching the passing? No, I think she wanted to move on and do other things. But there has been a lot of turnover on his staff during the COVID era. Best I can tell, none of this has been his fault. Passing coach is probably either Alex Dunphy or Mike Johnson, both are new to the staff this year. Hambly goes through an assistant a year on average and has for more than a decade. Number would be higher if Corlett weren't specially situated for those few years.
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Post by hammer on Sept 25, 2022 16:20:03 GMT -5
No, I think she wanted to move on and do other things. But there has been a lot of turnover on his staff during the COVID era. Best I can tell, none of this has been his fault. Passing coach is probably either Alex Dunphy or Mike Johnson, both are new to the staff this year. Hambly goes through an assistant a year on average and has for more than a decade. I guess you'd have to look at where they've gone. Are they moving onto HC positions, leaving volleyball, or making lateral moves. Obviously some were just biding time looking for a better job whether it be in the volleyball world or elsewhere.
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Post by hammer on Sept 25, 2022 16:27:22 GMT -5
No, I think she wanted to move on and do other things. But there has been a lot of turnover on his staff during the COVID era. Best I can tell, none of this has been his fault. Passing coach is probably either Alex Dunphy or Mike Johnson, both are new to the staff this year. I mean, I have been tearing apart USC’s passing coach this year, so I am equal opportunity offender. Lol. But Dunphy was a setter. I have no clue who Mike J. is. Johnson has been around for a long time as an assistant or HC at several schools. He was an assistant and then HC at Notre Dame after McLaughlin had to retire due to health reasons. He was the HC at Austin Peay for one year and did a pretty good that year. He was at Cal Poly for a few years under Jon Stevenson. He has a degree in ChemE from U-Dub, so he's probably no dummy. Not sure if he played any collegiate or HS volleyball though.
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