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Post by hail2pitt on Oct 31, 2022 11:36:29 GMT -5
Just saw this - this is clearly on the table. I also think a Louisville win over Pitt and it could be Texas, Louisville, Stanford, and San Diego. Pardon me for being cynical, but I think there's a big difference between something "on the table" versus actually happening. The ACC as a group hasn't done well enough this year to get two teams with a top four seeding. One will be its limit. The west hasn't done well enough to get two such teams either. So who gets shafted? San Diego, of course. The B1G has a huge fan base. Not letting their champ have a regional seed would cause much more of a firestorm than it would to treat San Diego like dirt. In the end, that political reality should matter more than what any single statistic says. Didn’t realize “quality of fan base” was selection criteria for the committee
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Post by aardvark on Oct 31, 2022 11:49:49 GMT -5
lol is this is a serious take? Sadly, yes. Unless there is a compelling reason for the little guy to get a spot at the big person's table, they won't get it. No matter what RPI projections say, San Diego will need to win out and get enough help that they look overwhelmingly right to sit in that seat. The same is true for western teams and the ACC. Last year, the ACC was able to turn the trick because they had an amazing conference RPI that carried the top two teams across the finish line. But that's not the case this year. When it comes to comparing San Diego with Stanford, the former gets the nod via statistics, but the latter wins for history and fan base. I'll go with the tree on that one.
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Post by aardvark on Oct 31, 2022 11:51:27 GMT -5
Didn’t realize “quality of fan base” was selection criteria for the committee It's not for me, but I'm not on the committee. My views are based on years of watching the results. Change happens, but it is slow.
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Post by hail2pitt on Oct 31, 2022 11:56:37 GMT -5
lol is this is a serious take? Sadly, yes. Unless there is a compelling reason for the little guy to get a spot at the big person's table, they won't get it. No matter what RPI projections say, San Diego will need to win out and get enough help that they look overwhelmingly right to sit in that seat. The same is true for western teams and the ACC. Last year, the ACC was able to turn the trick because they had an amazing conference RPI that carried the top two teams across the finish line. But that's not the case this year. When it comes to comparing San Diego with Stanford, the former gets the nod via statistics, but the latter wins for history and fan base. I'll go with the tree on that one. Stanford has a better real time RPI than San Diego- so therefore they also have the edge on stats as well. If San Diego finishes Top 5 RPI there is no reason to leave them out of being a Top 4 seed. I just do not see them making that happen for reasons southside their control
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Post by slxpress on Oct 31, 2022 11:56:42 GMT -5
My prediction? Outrage.
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Post by Kingsley on Oct 31, 2022 11:59:58 GMT -5
Who doesn't want Jenny Craig voodoo back in the tournament? Does 2015's 13-9 mean nothing to you people?
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Post by davebrake38 on Oct 31, 2022 16:25:18 GMT -5
will we get a much-appreciated update to the Bracketology?
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Post by hammer on Oct 31, 2022 16:34:00 GMT -5
will we get a much-appreciated update to the Bracketology? Be patient my friend, trojansc is still working on security measures that will prevent Michella Chester from stealing his picks.
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Post by davebrake38 on Oct 31, 2022 16:44:59 GMT -5
yea
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Oct 31, 2022 17:07:11 GMT -5
Just saw this - this is clearly on the table. I also think a Louisville win over Pitt and it could be Texas, Louisville, Stanford, and San Diego. Pardon me for being cynical, but I think there's a big difference between something "on the table" versus actually happening. The ACC as a group hasn't done well enough this year to get two teams with a top four seeding. One will be its limit. The west hasn't done well enough to get two such teams either. So who gets shafted? San Diego, of course. The B1G has a huge fan base. Not letting their champ have a regional seed would cause much more of a firestorm than it would to treat San Diego like dirt. In the end, that political reality should matter more than what any single statistic says. Cynically speaking, I would guess the committee might consider having filled 7-8,000 seat arenas in Madison or Lincoln over maybe 2-2.5k in San Diego to be an asset. Looks like San Diego has 4 basketball games scheduled for the weekend of the 1st 2 rounds too, guess they will need to move some of those. MBB vs UC San Diego -- Thursday 12/1 7PM WBB vs New Mexico St -- Saturday 12/3 2PM MBB vs UNLV -- Saturday 12/3 7PM WBB vs Nevada -- Sunday 12/4 4PM The Regional weekend is better: MBB vs Cal Baptist -- Saturday 12/10 7PM Is there a deadline for hosting commitments for the regionals?
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Post by donut on Oct 31, 2022 18:04:28 GMT -5
lol is this is a serious take? Sadly, yes. Unless there is a compelling reason for the little guy to get a spot at the big person's table, they won't get it. No matter what RPI projections say, San Diego will need to win out and get enough help that they look overwhelmingly right to sit in that seat. The same is true for western teams and the ACC. Last year, the ACC was able to turn the trick because they had an amazing conference RPI that carried the top two teams across the finish line. But that's not the case this year. When it comes to comparing San Diego with Stanford, the former gets the nod via statistics, but the latter wins for history and fan base. I'll go with the tree on that one. "Not the case this year?"
RPI Futures currently has Louisville at #2, and Pitt #3. If that's where they end up, I'd guess there's at least a 50% chance they both get top 4 seeds.
Your conjecture in this thread is weird.
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Post by n00b on Oct 31, 2022 18:11:32 GMT -5
lol is this is a serious take? Sadly, yes. Unless there is a compelling reason for the little guy to get a spot at the big person's table, they won't get it. No matter what RPI projections say, San Diego will need to win out and get enough help that they look overwhelmingly right to sit in that seat. The same is true for western teams and the ACC. Last year, the ACC was able to turn the trick because they had an amazing conference RPI that carried the top two teams across the finish line. But that's not the case this year. When it comes to comparing San Diego with Stanford, the former gets the nod via statistics, but the latter wins for history and fan base. I'll go with the tree on that one. A few years back, the committee actually had a perfectly justifiable reason to drop BYU out of the Top 4. Their RPI was #5, their top OH recently tore her ACL, and they lost a match to a bubble team in the last match of the regular season. Further, it would've required zero bracket re-configuring to bump Texas up to #4 and award them the regional. But they still seeded BYU #4.
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Post by slxpress on Oct 31, 2022 18:15:40 GMT -5
Sadly, yes. Unless there is a compelling reason for the little guy to get a spot at the big person's table, they won't get it. No matter what RPI projections say, San Diego will need to win out and get enough help that they look overwhelmingly right to sit in that seat. The same is true for western teams and the ACC. Last year, the ACC was able to turn the trick because they had an amazing conference RPI that carried the top two teams across the finish line. But that's not the case this year. When it comes to comparing San Diego with Stanford, the former gets the nod via statistics, but the latter wins for history and fan base. I'll go with the tree on that one. A few years back, the committee actually had a perfectly justifiable reason to drop BYU out of the Top 4. Their RPI was #5, their top OH recently tore her ACL, and they lost a match to a bubble team in the last match of the regular season. Further, it would've required zero bracket re-configuring to bump Texas up to #4 and award them the regional. But they still seeded BYU #4. And they threw the horns down sign while doing it.
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Post by jwvolley on Oct 31, 2022 18:18:27 GMT -5
Sadly, yes. Unless there is a compelling reason for the little guy to get a spot at the big person's table, they won't get it. No matter what RPI projections say, San Diego will need to win out and get enough help that they look overwhelmingly right to sit in that seat. The same is true for western teams and the ACC. Last year, the ACC was able to turn the trick because they had an amazing conference RPI that carried the top two teams across the finish line. But that's not the case this year. When it comes to comparing San Diego with Stanford, the former gets the nod via statistics, but the latter wins for history and fan base. I'll go with the tree on that one. A few years back, the committee actually had a perfectly justifiable reason to drop BYU out of the Top 4. Their RPI was #5, their top OH recently tore her ACL, and they lost a match to a bubble team in the last match of the regular season. Further, it would've required zero bracket re-configuring to bump Texas up to #4 and award them the regional. But they still seeded BYU #4. Their TOP OH? LOL not quite
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 31, 2022 18:44:21 GMT -5
A few years back, the committee actually had a perfectly justifiable reason to drop BYU out of the Top 4. Their RPI was #5, their top OH recently tore her ACL, and they lost a match to a bubble team in the last match of the regular season. Further, it would've required zero bracket re-configuring to bump Texas up to #4 and award them the regional. But they still seeded BYU #4. Their TOP OH? LOL not quite "Somebody remembers me!"
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