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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2005 19:06:38 GMT -5
How is this a different Hawaii team? Having Hittle in the back row and being in the SSC are nice but that doesn't change the challenges Hawaii has, which are matching up at the net. Harmotto and Fawcett aren't affected by Hittle in the back row or the SSC. Those two factors help, but don't change the more serious issues facing the Wahine.
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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2005 19:08:23 GMT -5
I was in Omaha last weekend. Some off the games had close scores, but Hawaii was never, ever in either match they played in. I would be stunned if anyone else who was there say's otherwise.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 31, 2005 19:10:28 GMT -5
So, is SSC an advantage or not for UH VB team? I'm so confused. Or is it only during NCAA tourney that the pressure is so high that it becomes a disadvantage to play in front of home crowd? Why would anyone think that playing at home vs a neutral site; even with Hittle available to play DS, would make such a big difference against PSU if home matches are actually tougher for bows? Or is it only tougher to play at SSC AFTER the matches are over? I'm just so confused. You're so confused? tell me something I don't know.
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Post by 3talltrees on Aug 31, 2005 19:11:10 GMT -5
The USC team I saw play last weekend had a lot of rough edges needing to be smoothed out. My guess is that they will not have an easy time with either Hawaii or Penn State, but that the matches will be competitive (both ways) and interesting to watch.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 31, 2005 19:13:27 GMT -5
How is this a different Hawaii team? Having Hittle in the back row and being in the SSC are nice but that doesn't change the challenges Hawaii has, which are matching up at the net. Harmotto and Fawcett aren't affected by Hittle in the back row or the SSC. Those two factors help, but don't change the more serious issues facing the Wahine. The most serious issue facing the Wahine is their passing. Hittle's presence will certainly help. If Hawai'i passes well, it won't make any difference who Penn State has at the net. Hawai'i knows what it had to work on, and they also realize it was as much their play as Penn State's that led to the loss. The same mistakes won't happen at the SSC. Otoh, I expect Penn State's freshman to be rattled by the Hawai'i crowd.
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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2005 19:20:32 GMT -5
BIK, I have some real estate I'd like to sell you. Explain to me how passing effects this. In two matches, the middles from Nebraska and Penn State hit .688, .440, .478. and .320 The Oh's Leftside's hit .688, .440, .357 and Larson hit only .170. Those numbers are outrageous and have nothing to do with the Hawaii's passing.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 31, 2005 19:34:46 GMT -5
BIK, I have some real estate I'd like to sell you. Explain to me how passing effects this. In two matches, the middles from Nebraska and Penn State hit .688, .440, .478. and .320 The Oh's Leftside's hit .688, .440, .357 and Larson hit only .170. Those numbers are outrageous and have nothing to do with the Hawaii's passing. Some of those numbers are a direct result of Hawaii's poor passing.I stop counting how many overpasses Hawai'i had allowing their opponents free attempts at the ball. Their blocking needs work too but solid passing will allow Hawai'i to run their own offense. Hawai'i did not play well in Omaha, there is no denying that. Russ Rose expects to see a different Hawai'i team at the SSC, so do I.
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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2005 19:38:55 GMT -5
BIK, Hawaii had 4 reception errors in 6 games, good by anybody's standards. Russ Rose, with all due respect, is a professional sandbager when it comes to the press. he wants to respect Hawaii, and make sure his players don't overlook them. I Like Hawaii, and Coach Shoji very much. I think they have a nice team ,they are just flat out overmatched. I don't think Penn State played all that well this weekend either. I think your going 1-2 this weekend, but most teams would.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 31, 2005 19:55:16 GMT -5
BIK, Hawaii had 4 reception errors in 6 games, good by anybody's standards. Russ Rose, with all due respect, is a professional sandbager when it comes to the press. he wants to respect Hawaii, and make sure his players don't overlook them. I Like Hawaii, and Coach Shoji very much. I think they have a nice team ,they are just flat out overmatched. I don't think Penn State played all that well this weekend either. I think your going 1-2 this weekend, but most teams would. Did you go back and look? lol Nebraska was impressive. I can't say the same for Penn State. I don't think Hawai'i is overmatched against Penn State at all. Again, considering how poorly they played and to still be close to Penn State in games 1&2 (remember, big lead in game 2) says much, and this match isn't being played on a neutral court, it is being played on a court that leads the nation in consecutive victories for the home team. The Wahine need to focus on their side of the net, if they do that (and I believe they will), they'll add another HAL classic to their belt. As far as USC goes, I don't expect much from them, this won't be the same USC team from the past couple of years.
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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 31, 2005 20:00:24 GMT -5
Of course I went and looked, I want to make sure I am not spewing some absurd opinion. I wish you and your Wahine the best of luck.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 31, 2005 20:02:13 GMT -5
BIK, hey man, I'm not trying to gang up on you, because you know I would never do that to you. But I have to say I've never seen a Wahine team play that poorly before, except for all the matches against Stanford in the 1990s and the Logan Tom era of the 2000s. And two nights in a row, too! I'm not sure all of Hawaii's problems exposed by Nebraska and Penn State can be resolved within a week, much less a season.
I would be surprised if Hawaii wins a game prior to Western Whoever on Sunday.
With that said, I would be curious to see how Hawaii does with Hittle in the lineup. I was never one for "chemistry" but who knows, maybe there's something to be said for certain magic combinations of people.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 31, 2005 20:10:23 GMT -5
With that said, I would be curious to see how Hawaii does with Hittle in the lineup. I was never one for "chemistry" but who knows, maybe there's something to be said for certain magic combinations of people. This Hawai'i team without Hittle is like Batman without Robin, Like The Green Lantern without his ring, Like the X- Men without Wolverine, Like George Bush without Karl Rove. I think You get the picture.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 31, 2005 20:13:05 GMT -5
This Hawai'i team without Hittle is like ... The Green Lantern without his ring... Yes. I understand now. I acknowledge receipt of your secret message. Now decoding. Thank you. Yes.
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Post by 2c on Aug 31, 2005 20:38:14 GMT -5
You're so confused? tell me something I don't know. Well, let's see... how about just a few: - you don't seem to know how you feel about SSC, is it an advanatage or not? We hear about how much pressure it is for the UH players to play there. And the team usually plays better away from home because of the lifting of the local pressure. Then we hear about the how difficult it is for good opponents to beat UH at SSC and how tough it is to play there. Not 100% mutually exclusive but still pretty much contradictory. So what gives, or is it that everybody's play just sucks during SSC matches? Does UH play just tend to suck(the disadvantage) less and manages to win?(thus the advantage of SSC) - you don't seem to know how mediocre Hawaii is until they get Mason and Hittle back in FR for hitting; and Hittle in the BR for passing, only then will they have the combination of ball control and offense to challenge Top 10 teams. - you don't seem to know that there was never a doubt that Hawaii was going to lose once both matches got underway last weekend. The closeness of the match was more due to early season errors by PSU that kept UH in it. (A healthy UH team would have competed against PSU, but even with the big lead, nobody seemed to think they would win the match.) How's that roomy seat on the vacated Husker bandwagon?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2005 22:27:05 GMT -5
Explain to me how passing effects this. In two matches, the middles from Nebraska and Penn State hit .688, .440, .478. and .320 The Oh's Leftside's hit .688, .440, .357 and Larson hit only .170. Those numbers are outrageous and have nothing to do with the Hawaii's passing. Some of those numbers are a direct result of Hawaii's poor passing.I stop counting how many overpasses Hawai'i had allowing their opponents free attempts at the ball. Overpasses on serve-return do not count as reception errors and would not show up in that statistic. On the other hand, they typically end up as easy kills for the other team, which would tend to increase that team's hitting percentage.
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