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Post by madden55 on Nov 21, 2022 9:19:58 GMT -5
Yesss pls send Nebraska to Louisville
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Post by noblesol on Nov 21, 2022 9:49:08 GMT -5
As I said, I get that. But so far you had Hawaʻi going to three different regionals except on the west coast. literally shut up lol. He’s not doing anything to be rude to Hawaii. Hawaii fans do this in every single thread. Why does it matter how many times he changes it ? Please don't lump all Hawai'i fans together on this. The majority of us aren't seeking to avoid competition. Just prefer a spot with an affordable plane ticket, something near a major hub, or west coast. Texas? Great. San Diego? Wonderful!
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 21, 2022 10:00:20 GMT -5
I just talked to Barbara over at the Committee Offices and she assured me we will not be seeing a Purdue/Utah first round match-up since they just played in the pre-conference.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 21, 2022 10:12:11 GMT -5
I just looked at Figstats - pure RPI cutline would have Michigan at 50 as last team in; Utah at 52 as first team out. Trojan thinks RPI 40 LMU is in danger - has a Committee ever pulled a team a full 10 spots ahead of the cutline? I think LMU being left out would be a shame. They already get no benefit from RPI bonuses because Pepperdine will be outside the unadjusted T50, but well within the Adjusted T50. They lose the scheduling bonus because San Jose State lost their last match to San Diego State (when they had an 87% chance of winning). And still - they will end up in the low 40's in RPI (RPI Futures has them at #43). They will end up with wins over (pablo rank in parenthesis): UCLA (26) Pepperdine (35) Pepperdine (35) San Jose State (45) Ole Miss (58) I believe this team should be in the tournament and would easily be in the tournament if we went with just RPI - but understand how they may not make it because of the committee criteria.
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Post by madden55 on Nov 21, 2022 10:36:29 GMT -5
I just looked at Figstats - pure RPI cutline would have Michigan at 50 as last team in; Utah at 52 as first team out. Trojan thinks RPI 40 LMU is in danger - has a Committee ever pulled a team a full 10 spots ahead of the cutline? I think LMU being left out would be a shame. They already get no benefit from RPI bonuses because Pepperdine will be outside the unadjusted T50, but well within the Adjusted T50. They lose the scheduling bonus because San Jose State lost their last match to San Diego State (when they had an 87% chance of winning). And still - they will end up in the low 40's in RPI (RPI Futures has them at #43). They will end up with wins over (pablo rank in parenthesis): UCLA (26) Pepperdine (35) Pepperdine (35) San Jose State (45) Ole Miss (58) I believe this team should be in the tournament and would easily be in the tournament if we went with just RPI - but understand how they may not make it because of the committee criteria. and I know it doesn’t mean much but they pass the eye test ! Giving San Diego all they could handle twice
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Post by nuclearbdgr on Nov 21, 2022 11:08:43 GMT -5
And now you got Hawai’i traveling to Wisconsin? I get it, you hate Hawai’i. I guess we’ll wait and see where the committee sends Hawai’i. I get it, they can fit any spot because the travel rule does not apply. But closer to the west coast would make sense for distance wise. Flashbacks to 2004...
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Post by n00b on Nov 21, 2022 11:41:26 GMT -5
I think LMU being left out would be a shame. They already get no benefit from RPI bonuses because Pepperdine will be outside the unadjusted T50, but well within the Adjusted T50. They lose the scheduling bonus because San Jose State lost their last match to San Diego State (when they had an 87% chance of winning). And still - they will end up in the low 40's in RPI (RPI Futures has them at #43). They will end up with wins over (pablo rank in parenthesis): UCLA (26) Pepperdine (35) Pepperdine (35) San Jose State (45) Ole Miss (58) I believe this team should be in the tournament and would easily be in the tournament if we went with just RPI - but understand how they may not make it because of the committee criteria. and I know it doesn’t mean much but they pass the eye test ! Giving San Diego all they could handle twice Unless you watched them play San Francisco, who the barely beat in 5, then lost to. Then they probably don’t pass the eye test.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 21, 2022 11:41:58 GMT -5
literally shut up lol. He’s not doing anything to be rude to Hawaii. Hawaii fans do this in every single thread. Why does it matter how many times he changes it ? Please don't lump all Hawai'i fans together on this. The majority of us aren't seeking to avoid competition. Just prefer a spot with an affordable plane ticket, something near a major hub, or west coast. Texas? Great. San Diego? Wonderful! Whatever, no one’s avoiding competion. My logic stands, first of all, no one knows who exactly will be seeded 1-4. I commented on why no west coast 1st-2nd round destination? Hawai’i could have been sent to Oregon, Stanford, Texas even. Destionations all between 3,500 to 2,300 miles roughly.
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Post by n00b on Nov 21, 2022 11:42:54 GMT -5
I think LMU being left out would be a shame. They already get no benefit from RPI bonuses because Pepperdine will be outside the unadjusted T50, but well within the Adjusted T50. They lose the scheduling bonus because San Jose State lost their last match to San Diego State (when they had an 87% chance of winning). And still - they will end up in the low 40's in RPI (RPI Futures has them at #43). They will end up with wins over (pablo rank in parenthesis): UCLA (26) Pepperdine (35) Pepperdine (35) San Jose State (45) Ole Miss (58) I believe this team should be in the tournament and would easily be in the tournament if we went with just RPI - but understand how they may not make it because of the committee criteria. and I know it doesn’t mean much but they pass the eye test ! Giving San Diego all they could handle twice Unless you watched them play San Francisco, who the barely beat in 5, then lost to. Then they probably don’t pass the eye test.
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Post by tablealgebra on Nov 21, 2022 11:44:36 GMT -5
The 16 hosting teams seem pretty solidly in place (EDIT: except Rice? I had Rice as a 5 seed and GT at 4 and clearly there's room to disagree here). Creighton over Marquette in the BE tournament probably just switches the two teams - if they both lose, then maybe BYU over both of them? Of course, the committee might leave all three of them out regardless of the BE tourney due to SOS arguments, but that would be a complete shame.
After that, it will be really interesting to see how a committee handles 5-8 seeds for the first time. The margins feel razor-thin to me.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 21, 2022 11:49:12 GMT -5
I just looked at Figstats - pure RPI cutline would have Michigan at 50 as last team in; Utah at 52 as first team out. Trojan thinks RPI 40 LMU is in danger - has a Committee ever pulled a team a full 10 spots ahead of the cutline? I think LMU being left out would be a shame. They already get no benefit from RPI bonuses because Pepperdine will be outside the unadjusted T50, but well within the Adjusted T50. They lose the scheduling bonus because San Jose State lost their last match to San Diego State (when they had an 87% chance of winning). And still - they will end up in the low 40's in RPI (RPI Futures has them at #43). They will end up with wins over (pablo rank in parenthesis): UCLA (26) Pepperdine (35) Pepperdine (35) San Jose State (45) Ole Miss (58) I believe this team should be in the tournament and would easily be in the tournament if we went with just RPI - but understand how they may not make it because of the committee criteria. Hopefully the Committee seeding to 32 helps here with LMU vis-a-vis someone like Texas St. The Commitee is going to have to look at JMU to evaluate them for a Top 32 seed and will hopefully have that in mind when they evaluate that win.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 21, 2022 12:00:25 GMT -5
As I said, I get that. But so far you had Hawaʻi going to three different regionals except on the west coast. literally shut up lol. He’s not doing anything to be rude to Hawaii. Hawaii fans do this in every single thread. Why does it matter how many times he changes it ? How’s about you literally shut up and stop generalizing all Hawaii fans. Many of us understand how the tourney pairing works and appreciate the work that Trojan does.
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Post by horns1 on Nov 21, 2022 12:03:44 GMT -5
I just looked at Figstats - pure RPI cutline would have Michigan at 50 as last team in; Utah at 52 as first team out. Trojan thinks RPI 40 LMU is in danger - has a Committee ever pulled a team a full 10 spots ahead of the cutline? I think LMU being left out would be a shame. They already get no benefit from RPI bonuses because Pepperdine will be outside the unadjusted T50, but well within the Adjusted T50. They lose the scheduling bonus because San Jose State lost their last match to San Diego State (when they had an 87% chance of winning). And still - they will end up in the low 40's in RPI (RPI Futures has them at #43). They will end up with wins over (pablo rank in parenthesis): UCLA (26) Pepperdine (35) Pepperdine (35) San Jose State (45) Ole Miss (58) I believe this team should be in the tournament and would easily be in the tournament if we went with just RPI - but understand how they may not make it because of the committee criteria. What you state statistically is true and accurate. On the other hand, LMU had a golden opportunity last week when they hosted RPI Top 10 San Diego, and came close to beating them; if they finish the job, we're not having this discussion right now. It was sort of like a play-in game for LMU; not a lot of non-P5 conference teams get that opportunity this late in their conference season.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 21, 2022 12:06:07 GMT -5
I think LMU being left out would be a shame. They already get no benefit from RPI bonuses because Pepperdine will be outside the unadjusted T50, but well within the Adjusted T50. They lose the scheduling bonus because San Jose State lost their last match to San Diego State (when they had an 87% chance of winning). And still - they will end up in the low 40's in RPI (RPI Futures has them at #43). They will end up with wins over (pablo rank in parenthesis): UCLA (26) Pepperdine (35) Pepperdine (35) San Jose State (45) Ole Miss (58) I believe this team should be in the tournament and would easily be in the tournament if we went with just RPI - but understand how they may not make it because of the committee criteria. What you state statistically is true and accurate. On the other hand, LMU had a golden opportunity last week when they hosted RPI Top 10 San Diego, and came close to beating them; if they finish the job, we're not having this discussion right now. It was sort of like a play-in game for LMU; not a lot of non-P5 conference teams get that opportunity this late in their conference season. Non-P5 teams don't have to go through a Top 10 team to get the autobid though.
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Post by savannahbadger on Nov 21, 2022 12:09:03 GMT -5
Minnesota and Baylor put in the Madison Regional AGAIN? It’s deja vu. It depends on who else is in the bracket. Asking for a FGCU friend.
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