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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 28, 2022 12:48:39 GMT -5
Not surprised Texas State turned it down. UCSB must have turned it down as well. Correct. |
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Post by staticb on Nov 28, 2022 12:49:39 GMT -5
There's a lot of teams who are relatively young who could use the extra games. People celebrate winning a bunch of meaningless exhibition football bowl games, why not more volleyball?
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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 28, 2022 12:53:06 GMT -5
There's a lot of teams who are relatively young who could use the extra games. People celebrate winning a bunch of meaningless exhibition football bowl games, why not more volleyball? True, there is a cost that some schools can’t or won’t cover if a team is interested. There has to be a meeting once the HC shows interest. Than the sales pitch begins. Post tournament experience is usually a positive experience for the team. It’s like a reward for working hard. |
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Post by justahick on Nov 28, 2022 13:02:54 GMT -5
There's a lot of teams who are relatively young who could use the extra games. People celebrate winning a bunch of meaningless exhibition football bowl games, why not more volleyball? Because schools can make money going to meaningless bowl games and schools aren't willing to spend any more money than thye have to on volleyball. |
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 28, 2022 13:15:35 GMT -5
There's a lot of teams who are relatively young who could use the extra games. People celebrate winning a bunch of meaningless exhibition football bowl games, why not more volleyball? Because schools can make money going to meaningless bowl games and schools aren't willing to spend any more money than thye have to on volleyball. depends on the bowl game, and it varies by school some of those meaningless bowl games require schools to buy/guarantee a certain amount of ticket sales, and if they don't have enough of an interested fan base, the school budget takes a hit. And of course, it costs alot more in travel/lodging for a football team than it does for a volleyball team (especially considering how much the NIVC regionalizes things to reduce travel cost for teams) |
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 28, 2022 13:35:14 GMT -5
There's a lot of teams who are relatively young who could use the extra games. People celebrate winning a bunch of meaningless exhibition football bowl games, why not more volleyball? Because schools can make money going to meaningless bowl games and schools aren't willing to spend any more money than thye have to on volleyball. There are quite a few bowl games where the teams don't make money and even lose some. Coaches want to be in a bowl because they get another 15 practices and also for recruiting. |
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Post by whisp3r on Nov 28, 2022 14:14:06 GMT -5
I watched this last year. A couple of the schools had free streams.
Ill watch some of it if I can. Especially if its a Southern Miss match.
Since they went to the Sunbelt I can no longer watch cause theyre now on ESPN+
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Post by justahick on Nov 28, 2022 15:34:32 GMT -5
Because schools can make money going to meaningless bowl games and schools aren't willing to spend any more money than thye have to on volleyball. There are quite a few bowl games where the teams don't make money and even lose some. Coaches want to be in a bowl because they get another 15 practices and also for recruiting. And schools are willing to bear the cost. |
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Post by kurtinatlanta on Nov 28, 2022 16:03:24 GMT -5
Georgia Tech played this event two years in a row, and won the second year out at South Dakota. They've been in the NCAA the past three seasons since. The trip to South Dakota was fantastic (winning helps). The South Dakota women's basketball team was there to cheer on their team and were just the right level of college student cocky/obnoxious. If more P5 conferences would participate, it would be a better event. Being #65 wasn't awful.
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Post by volleyball303 on Nov 28, 2022 16:26:43 GMT -5
Georgia Tech played this event two years in a row, and won the second year out at South Dakota. They've been in the NCAA the past three seasons since. The trip to South Dakota was fantastic (winning helps). The South Dakota women's basketball team was there to cheer on their team and were just the right level of college student cocky/obnoxious. If more P5 conferences would participate, it would be a better event. Being #65 wasn't awful. I think it depends on the age of the team. I am pretty sure a young Arizona team player in it a few years back to gain experience. Experience I believe they were thinking they would be using in the NCAA tournament this year. Unfortunately, it did not go the same for them as GT. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 28, 2022 16:28:06 GMT -5
Not one from Big West. But thank you NIVC for continuously holding this tournament every year. More matches team would look forward to after conference play. Appears a number of teams weren't looking forward to more matches. If teams want to play in it fine, it conflicts with finals prep and finals in a lot of cases. Teams can have some nagging injuries Long Beach has at least 3 cross over Beach players - better they get a break. Poly not as sure. IMO. the field is too big but then thats the idea to get a bunch of teams to buy in to this 8 teams if they were basically like top 75 would have sime interest Or have a " Last 4 teams out" tourney, and then winner gets the annual FU to the committee trophy |
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 28, 2022 16:28:25 GMT -5
There are quite a few bowl games where the teams don't make money and even lose some. Coaches want to be in a bowl because they get another 15 practices and also for recruiting. And schools are willing to bear the cost. there are schools that opt out of the meaningless bowl games, just as there are schools that opt out of the NIVC. As long as the NIVC has enough willing teams to conduct the tournament, then there's no problem. Just people on message boards that whine about it. |
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 28, 2022 16:46:49 GMT -5
And schools are willing to bear the cost. there are schools that opt out of the meaningless bowl games, just as there are schools that opt out of the NIVC. As long as the NIVC has enough willing teams to conduct the tournament, then there's no problem. Just people on message boards that whine about it. Fairly rare that a school opts out of a bowl game. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 28, 2022 16:53:37 GMT -5
They should somehow play this tournament super fast and the winner should get an automatic spot in the NCAA tournament. That way a team like Texas State could prove the committee wrong. I realize this is not possible but would be interesting. more realistic would be to add "first four" games, expanding the tournament field to 68 like they do in MBB. but that wouldn't really solve anything, and the 69th team would just be outraged about not getting a bid Yep, that's why they should just let every team in. It would only add 3 rounds to the tournament, at most, and so it's not all that different from having a conference tournament. And I'm half-serious. I am realistic, however. It's not going to be double-elimination.... |
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 28, 2022 17:01:36 GMT -5
I am realistic, however. It's not going to be double-elimination.... volleyball already has a "double (or triple) elimination" aspect already built in. You don't lose a match until you lose 3 sets. Having one (or even two) bad sets doesn't totally doom you, since the score resets to 0-0 for each set. Heck, you could lose two sets 0-25 & 0-25 and then come back and win 25-23 25-23 15-13 and win the match despite being outscored 65-109 |
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