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Post by jayj79 on Dec 4, 2022 0:42:47 GMT -5
They don't really "seed" that tournament much. The brackets are based primarily on geography, trying to reduce travel cost as much as possible. And schools have to pay money to host, which not every team is willing to do. They do attempt to sort the teams into three groups, like A, B and C tiers, with B being half the field. They try to have A vs C and B vs B, but that’s about as detailed as it gets. And I have no idea how closely they adhere to it, either. As you said, other factors are more important. They also attempt to prevent conference mates from playing each other in the first two rounds. meh, I dunno if I'd believe that. (then again I don't care enough to truly research it). Closest I could see would be they form groups of 4 mostly by geography, and then maybe "rank" the 4 teams at each site ABBC to determine who plays each other in the first round. as for avoiding conference matchups, I don't believe that applies to anything beyond possibly the first round. considering how last year they had 4 MVC teams in the same 8-team region That being said, with as tight as school budgets are for anything outside of football and MBB (especially for the mid-majors), I don't blame them for doing all they can to keep costs down |
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 4, 2022 9:37:55 GMT -5
They do attempt to sort the teams into three groups, like A, B and C tiers, with B being half the field. They try to have A vs C and B vs B, but that’s about as detailed as it gets. And I have no idea how closely they adhere to it, either. As you said, other factors are more important. They also attempt to prevent conference mates from playing each other in the first two rounds. meh, I dunno if I'd believe that. (then again I don't care enough to truly research it). Closest I could see would be they form groups of 4 mostly by geography, and then maybe "rank" the 4 teams at each site ABBC to determine who plays each other in the first round. as for avoiding conference matchups, I don't believe that applies to anything beyond possibly the first round. considering how last year they had 4 MVC teams in the same 8-team region That being said, with as tight as school budgets are for anything outside of football and MBB (especially for the mid-majors), I don't blame them for doing all they can to keep costs down True. I'm just going by thier own claim on their site. Also going from memory when we were in it in 2019. I think that represents their "best case scenario". but at the end of the day, they just want to have willing participants that can afford to play in it. BTW, they DID separate the three Summit teams to not play in the first two rounds this year. In some cases, it's probably impossible to do that though. |
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Post by InfoBot on Dec 4, 2022 13:32:10 GMT -5
meh, I dunno if I'd believe that. (then again I don't care enough to truly research it). Closest I could see would be they form groups of 4 mostly by geography, and then maybe "rank" the 4 teams at each site ABBC to determine who plays each other in the first round. as for avoiding conference matchups, I don't believe that applies to anything beyond possibly the first round. considering how last year they had 4 MVC teams in the same 8-team region That being said, with as tight as school budgets are for anything outside of football and MBB (especially for the mid-majors), I don't blame them for doing all they can to keep costs down True. I'm just going by thier own claim on their site. Also going from memory when we were in it in 2019. I think that represents their "best case scenario". but at the end of the day, they just want to have willing participants that can afford to play in it. BTW, they DID separate the three Summit teams to not play in the first two rounds this year. In some cases, it's probably impossible to do that though. Niether of these are helping me understand why Omaha went to Portland instead of Witchita. They easily could have swapped with GCU, unless I'm missing something? |
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Post by n00b on Dec 4, 2022 13:39:31 GMT -5
meh, I dunno if I'd believe that. (then again I don't care enough to truly research it). Closest I could see would be they form groups of 4 mostly by geography, and then maybe "rank" the 4 teams at each site ABBC to determine who plays each other in the first round. as for avoiding conference matchups, I don't believe that applies to anything beyond possibly the first round. considering how last year they had 4 MVC teams in the same 8-team region That being said, with as tight as school budgets are for anything outside of football and MBB (especially for the mid-majors), I don't blame them for doing all they can to keep costs down True. I'm just going by thier own claim on their site. Also going from memory when we were in it in 2019. I think that represents their "best case scenario". but at the end of the day, they just want to have willing participants that can afford to play in it. BTW, they DID separate the three Summit teams to not play in the first two rounds this year. In some cases, it's probably impossible to do that though. Yeah, Pacific played Santa Clara in Round 2. Southern Miss and Troy could've played in Round 2. Same with Ohio and Central Michigan. |
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 4, 2022 16:04:45 GMT -5
Drake and Weber State are heading into a fifth set in the first round NIVC match at Wichita State ESPN+ - StatsDrake's Haley Bush left the match early (don't know if it was due to injury or illness), and one of their leading attackers: Mariana Rodrigues was hit in the head during a block attempt, causing her to sit out the end of the 3rd set and beginning of the 4th, but she eventually returned. Taylor Oberpriller has recorded 27 kills while hitting .364 Weber State has scored on a whopping 19 blocks in the first 4 sets, along with 6 aces, but have also gifted Drake with points off of 14 service errors |
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 6, 2022 9:15:54 GMT -5
I found it kind of interesting how in the NCAA tournament, 15 of the 16 host teams advanced past the opening 2 rounds (and that 16th team not advancing was due in large part to them playing without their setter).
Meanwhile, in the NIVC tournament, only 2 of the 8 host teams advanced.
Of course, the NCAA assigns hosting opportunity to the "best" teams (based on season performance) while hosting opportunity in the NIVC is determined more by geography, facility availability and which schools are willing to pay for it. So the NCAA teams already have an advantage and are given the home matches as an EXTRA advantage, so it isn't really that surprising that they almost always win.
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 6, 2022 10:21:03 GMT -5
Bracket Link: linkHere's the Round 3 (Quarterfinals) situation: Northwest region: (Thurs 7PM ET)
Pacific @ Drake (Drake 3-1 70%) Southwest region: (Thurs 7PM ET)
UT-RGV @ Davidson (UTGRV 3-2 64%) Northeast region: (Wed 7:30 ET)
Xavier @ Boston College (BC 3-2 66%) Southeast region:(Wed 6PM ET)
Southern Miss @ Western Carolina (W. Car 3-1 71%) Drake would be favored in any match going forward, with the most likely championship being Boston College @ Drake *all odds from MasseyRatings.com |
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 6, 2022 10:48:19 GMT -5
Bracket Link: linkHere's the Round 3 (Quarterfinals) situation: Northwest region: (Thurs 7PM ET)
Pacific @ Drake (Drake 3-1 70%) Southwest region: (Thurs 7PM ET)
UT-RGV @ Davidson (UTGRV 3-2 64%) Northeast region: (Wed 7:30 ET)
Xavier @ Boston College (BC 3-2 66%) Southeast region:(Wed 6PM ET)
Southern Miss @ Western Carolina (W. Car 3-1 71%) Drake would be favored in any match going forward, with the most likely championship being Boston College @ Drake are those Pablo projection percentages? No, MasseyRatings.com |
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 7, 2022 23:03:48 GMT -5
So Southern Miss has advanced to the semifinals
don't know if I should hate them because of the whole Favre scandal or not (I'm not really familiar with that whole story)
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 7, 2022 23:07:47 GMT -5
with the most likely championship being Boston College @ Drake who would host that might depend on which school decides to bid (or bid more) on it |
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 8, 2022 7:34:38 GMT -5
with the most likely championship being Boston College @ Drake who would host that might depend on which school decides to bid (or bid more) on it yes, or facility availability during basketball season. Sometimes I have heard that average home attendance is factored in, especially in the semifinals and finals. They don’t want the championship played in an empty gym. |
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 9, 2022 11:34:45 GMT -5
Semifinals: #137 Southern Miss @ #93 Boston College
Saturday, 12/10 @ 4PM ET STATS#62 Drake @ #131 DavidsonSunday, 12/11 @ 1PM ET *Rankings are RPI Team Twitter links:Boston College linkSouthern Miss linkDrake linkDavidson link |
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Post by kiyoat on Dec 9, 2022 11:40:02 GMT -5
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Post by Slay055 on Dec 9, 2022 11:47:29 GMT -5
So Southern Miss has advanced to the semifinals don't know if I should hate them because of the whole Favre scandal or not (I'm not really familiar with that whole story) I'm not holding it against the current team, the players weren't involved. Jenny Hazelwood is in her first-year coaching there and one of the best people. |
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 11, 2022 15:24:41 GMT -5
with the most likely championship being Boston College @ Drake good call. BC @ Drake on Wed. Dec. 14 6 pm central (7 eastern) The two teams making the finals don't surprise me, but I wasn't sure Drake was going to bid to host (and BC has hosted throughout up till now). However... Personally, I'm glad Drake is hosting, as I tried to watch the BC semifinal and it said that I had to have ACC network access where as with Drake hosting, I'm sure it will be on regular ESPN+ |
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