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Post by soljah808 on Dec 3, 2023 15:14:50 GMT -5
She is gonna be a special one for sure! Congrats to her for such an achievement!
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Post by VT Karen on Dec 3, 2023 15:21:49 GMT -5
She is gonna be a special one for sure! Congrats to her for such an achievement! I think she's gonna be really good too. She had my Karen hairdo blown tf back when I watched her bash my niece and her Damien team live. LOL.
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Post by staticb on Dec 3, 2023 18:45:12 GMT -5
Since passing is such a difficult skill for many, I've often wondered if the technique being taught, or the training methods, are somehow off. I've wondered if some cross-training in other sports would be helpful. For instance, give them 20 minutes a day on a softball field taking infield, with hard and soft line drives and ground balls coming at them. If they do well at that, start using baseballs. If they do well at that, put them on a football field and have them field kickoffs and punts. If they do well at that have eleven players running at them full speed to tackle them before they can secure the ball. If they do well at that have them do it at night in the rain and with gusting cross winds. Eventually, if they survive all that, their technique might not be text book, but who will care. They'll have demonstrated great spatial awareness and quick twitch smoothness of movement, an ability to read the ball and the environment and make whatever adjustment of necessity needed in the moment. Adjusting to a volleyball floating in their general direction might actually feel boring to them. Ok, just being facetious but do tend to feel that cross training is beneficial, and that 'technique' is only helpful up to a point. Some of the best athletes are that way with technique no one would teach. There is a likely a 6-figure coaching gig for you somewhere if you could figure it out. Passing is the skill that seems to plateau early and quite often even liberos who have been playing for 10+ years don't get significantly better the more they play. I think you have the right idea--the issue with it, I think that one of the difficult parts of it is because it requires a quick mind and a quick body--your mind is making like a dozen quick calculations in your head and then you have to move your body to react accordingly in time. There are so many variables and every server (and serve) is a little different.
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Post by VT Karen on Dec 3, 2023 19:04:55 GMT -5
Since passing is such a difficult skill for many, I've often wondered if the technique being taught, or the training methods, are somehow off. I've wondered if some cross-training in other sports would be helpful. For instance, give them 20 minutes a day on a softball field taking infield, with hard and soft line drives and ground balls coming at them. If they do well at that, start using baseballs. If they do well at that, put them on a football field and have them field kickoffs and punts. If they do well at that have eleven players running at them full speed to tackle them before they can secure the ball. If they do well at that have them do it at night in the rain and with gusting cross winds. Eventually, if they survive all that, their technique might not be text book, but who will care. They'll have demonstrated great spatial awareness and quick twitch smoothness of movement, an ability to read the ball and the environment and make whatever adjustment of necessity needed in the moment. Adjusting to a volleyball floating in their general direction might actually feel boring to them. Ok, just being facetious but do tend to feel that cross training is beneficial, and that 'technique' is only helpful up to a point. Some of the best athletes are that way with technique no one would teach. There is a likely a 6-figure coaching gig for you somewhere if you could figure it out. Passing is the skill that seems to plateau early and quite often even liberos who have been playing for 10+ years don't get significantly better the more they play. I think you have the right idea--the issue with it, I think that one of the difficult parts of it is because it requires a quick mind and a quick body--your mind is making like a dozen quick calculations in your head and then you have to move your body to react accordingly in time. There are so many variables and every server (and serve) is a little different. I think the men's game presents the best case for what the main cog is for good to great passing: angles. The ball is coming so fast that the men don't have time to think about moving their feet per se and need to quickly decide (and overtime, through muscle memory and visual familiarity) which angle will be best in any given situation. The women employ jump float serves, which aim to take advantage of air currents, and last-minute dips and raises to throw off the passers and to be more consistent. But still, in my opinion, if you have the experience and an understanding of how the angles you create with your platform affect the ball, you'll be better more times than not.
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Post by noblesol on Dec 3, 2023 21:18:26 GMT -5
There is a likely a 6-figure coaching gig for you somewhere if you could figure it out. Passing is the skill that seems to plateau early and quite often even liberos who have been playing for 10+ years don't get significantly better the more they play. I think you have the right idea--the issue with it, I think that one of the difficult parts of it is because it requires a quick mind and a quick body--your mind is making like a dozen quick calculations in your head and then you have to move your body to react accordingly in time. There are so many variables and every server (and serve) is a little different. I think the men's game presents the best case for what the main cog is for good to great passing: angles. The ball is coming so fast that the men don't have time to think about moving their feet per se and need to quickly decide (and overtime, through muscle memory and visual familiarity) which angle will be best in any given situation. The women employ jump float serves, which aim to take advantage of air currents, and last-minute dips and raises to throw off the passers and to be more consistent. But still, in my opinion, if you have the experience and an understanding of how the angles you create with your platform affect the ball, you'll be better more times than not. It's oversimplification for sure, but the best advice I can recall from playing multiple sports and multiple positions is to play the ball, don't let it play you. IOW, move your 'platform' to the ball, don't wait for it to get on top of you. Balance, depth perception, spatial awareness, and smooth adjustments all benefit from a small amount of initial motion in the correct direction. Anticipating the correct direction is part repetitions and experience, part pre-game homework, and part in game observation and adjustment. But always, being perfectly stationary means you'll need more luck than skill to not be played by the ball.
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Post by VT Karen on Dec 3, 2023 21:29:43 GMT -5
I think the men's game presents the best case for what the main cog is for good to great passing: angles. The ball is coming so fast that the men don't have time to think about moving their feet per se and need to quickly decide (and overtime, through muscle memory and visual familiarity) which angle will be best in any given situation. The women employ jump float serves, which aim to take advantage of air currents, and last-minute dips and raises to throw off the passers and to be more consistent. But still, in my opinion, if you have the experience and an understanding of how the angles you create with your platform affect the ball, you'll be better more times than not. It's oversimplification for sure, but the best advice I can recall from playing multiple sports and multiple positions is to play the ball, don't let it play you. IOW, move your 'platform' to the ball, don't wait for it to get on top of you. Balance, depth perception, spatial awareness, and smooth adjustments all benefit from a small amount of initial motion in the correct direction. Anticipating the correct direction is part repetitions and experience, part pre-game homework, and part in game observation and adjustment. But always, being perfectly stationary means you'll need more luck than skill to not be played by the ball. I completely agree with that! I used to tell passers and libs that all the time. "Guuuurl, don't let the ball run up on you!" Sometimes when you use easy to understand phrases or questions (of course tailored to the athletes), it organically helps them with things like "shoulders forward, feet to the ball, dip your shoulders etc."
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Post by jttaberu on Dec 3, 2023 22:45:25 GMT -5
She is gonna be a special one for sure! Congrats to her for such an achievement! I think she's gonna be really good too. She had my Karen hairdo blown tf back when I watched her bash my niece and her Damien team live. LOL. not to take away from miliana's achievement, but i'm so happy to see my damien alma mater being represented here! we've come a long way with our athletics program
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Post by practicesafesets on Dec 3, 2023 23:26:34 GMT -5
I gotta get my Transfer Wish List together
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Post by rainbowcard on Dec 4, 2023 0:18:08 GMT -5
I gotta get my Transfer Wish List together if Iβm dreaming mine are Ndiaye and Rutherford. Honestly if we literally brought in all of Kateβs club team we would be so stacked πππ
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Post by VT Karen on Dec 4, 2023 0:51:54 GMT -5
I think she's gonna be really good too. She had my Karen hairdo blown tf back when I watched her bash my niece and her Damien team live. LOL. not to take away from miliana's achievement, but i'm so happy to see my damien alma mater being represented here! we've come a long way with our athletics program GO MONARCHS! My niece played outside hitter for the Monarchs this season so of course I was decked out in that royal purple and telling someone's mama to sit tf deeeeown!
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Post by VT Karen on Dec 4, 2023 0:52:34 GMT -5
I gotta get my Transfer Wish List together Gurlll, you stay getting your transfer wish list and your recruits wish list throughout the season....
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Post by eyelander on Dec 4, 2023 14:28:23 GMT -5
Has anyone started a Hawaii Wahine 2024 yet?
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Post by staticb on Dec 4, 2023 15:06:00 GMT -5
Has anyone started a Hawaii Wahine 2024 yet? No maybe we should bring back the recruiting thread to? Or move transfer talk there?
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 4, 2023 16:27:40 GMT -5
Whoever does the Hawaii 2024 thread should set up the first post like the way Cubicle No More ... did in this "Hawaii Wahine 2023" thread..
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 4, 2023 17:17:39 GMT -5
Or maybe JT could start the "Hawaii 2024" thread?
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