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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 7, 2023 5:27:57 GMT -5
12 weeks is 8/29 so there's hope she'll get to play some in the non conference. I'd have to think that given Wisconsin's overall roster composition, this is pretty significant, and she may take a redshirt. By time September rolls around, Wisconsin should be gelling and firing at a high level, in particular with their 6-2. If recovery time is end of August, she would still need even more time to condition, train, and get reps with the team just to get to playing at a higher level than either TTA or Orzol on the OH in the front row. That's already a big ask when healthy given how competitive the gym is, and coming back from a shoulder injury, she'd have to push herself even harder to see the floor, potentially further exacerbating her condition. Hard agree.
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Post by b1gnetwerth on Jun 7, 2023 9:54:08 GMT -5
This injury got me reading up on this on the internet. The first thing I read was that it was a rare occurrence. I don’t know about that… in college I had a fraternity brother that was benching when his arm suddenly started swelling and turned purple. He suffered from this diagnosis. They ended up removing his top rib. I recently also had a coworker be diagnosed with this. He was doing regular exercise when he suffered complications and had arm swelling, turning purple. He is having surgery to remove the blood clots and also discussed removal of a rib as an option. My friend from college is doing very well and leads a healthy active lifestyle. I would be terrified to make a return to volleyball though after seeing what both went through.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 7, 2023 11:00:57 GMT -5
I'd have to think that given Wisconsin's overall roster composition, this is pretty significant, and she may take a redshirt. By time September rolls around, Wisconsin should be gelling and firing at a high level, in particular with their 6-2. If recovery time is end of August, she would still need even more time to condition, train, and get reps with the team just to get to playing at a higher level than either TTA or Orzol on the OH in the front row. That's already a big ask when healthy given how competitive the gym is, and coming back from a shoulder injury, she'd have to push herself even harder to see the floor, potentially further exacerbating her condition. Hard agree. doesn't she already intend to use her covid year? it would be wild if Franklin was still playing after the '21 class is graduated. does she have 6 years worth of college she plans on attending?
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Post by savannahbadger on Jun 7, 2023 11:02:51 GMT -5
While I'm sure there a good bit of variability form 'case to case' and person to person, if you look at the 'case studies' for the VB players mentioned in the article GreatLakes.. linked for us, upwards of 12 month for 'full recovery' might be more likely. Even if she's getting to 'playing shape' by mid-season, mid-October, taking the medical hardship (and not blowing it by playing in the second half of the season) might make more sense than 'hurrying back'. I hate having to consider these things... Coach has to (regrettably) be pushing for the chance to have Frank sit out this year and have her available in 2024 & 2025. With the way a lot of talent leaves after 2024, I would think he’d like to have her around in 2025 for added continuity on the team. Then there’s the logjam of talent this year to consider too. This assumes she’s able to recover 100% and play, and isn’t forced to medically retire.
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Post by savannahbadger on Jun 7, 2023 11:05:06 GMT -5
doesn't she already intend to use her covid year? it would be wild if Franklin was still playing after the '21 class is graduated. does she have 6 years worth of college she plans on attending? IIRC, she was going to be on pace to still be here in 2024 as a senior or grad student. This could put her into 2025.
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Post by smartcookie on Jun 7, 2023 11:20:21 GMT -5
I've seen too many players come back too soon and suffer from re-injury...this is a serious diagnosis so it's a very real possibility that she may not play again. This is a case where the needs of the athlete must be prioritized over any program goals. Sarah has been really fun to watch & I wish her the best in her recovery. I would be thrilled if she can find the court again in a healthy way, but until that time hopefully she will still be able to travel and help out the team like Hart did when she was injured.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 7, 2023 12:08:44 GMT -5
doesn't she already intend to use her covid year? it would be wild if Franklin was still playing after the '21 class is graduated. does she have 6 years worth of college she plans on attending? IIRC, she was going to be on pace to still be here in 2024 as a senior or grad student. This could put her into 2025. unless she's a year behind in school, she should be a senior this coming year academically so 2025 would put her two years post grad and 24 years old lol
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Post by jwvolley on Jun 7, 2023 12:37:53 GMT -5
IIRC, she was going to be on pace to still be here in 2024 as a senior or grad student. This could put her into 2025. unless she's a year behind in school, she should be a senior this coming year academically so 2025 would put her two years post grad and 24 years old lol Redshirt year (medical or otherwise) + covid year = 6 years It's what O'Neal is currently doing at Texas.
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Post by badgerguru on Jun 7, 2023 12:40:25 GMT -5
IIRC, she was going to be on pace to still be here in 2024 as a senior or grad student. This could put her into 2025. unless she's a year behind in school, she should be a senior this coming year academically so 2025 would put her two years post grad and 24 years old lol Almost like a Kayla Caffey situation
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 7, 2023 12:53:11 GMT -5
unless she's a year behind in school, she should be a senior this coming year academically so 2025 would put her two years post grad and 24 years old lol Redshirt year (medical or otherwise) + covid year = 6 years It's what O'Neal is currently doing at Texas. I always forget about stuff like this. not to knock Oneal but I have to remind myself that the 'real' senior Oneal was in 2021 when I think of how good she is now
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Post by katn on Jun 7, 2023 13:03:31 GMT -5
Redshirt year (medical or otherwise) + covid year = 6 years It's what O'Neal is currently doing at Texas. I always forget about stuff like this. not to knock Oneal but I have to remind myself that the 'real' senior Oneal was in 2021 when I think of how good she is now it's the same situation as strivens...o'neal was redshirted her freshman year (non-medical related)
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 7, 2023 13:41:04 GMT -5
I always forget about stuff like this. not to knock Oneal but I have to remind myself that the 'real' senior Oneal was in 2021 when I think of how good she is now it's the same situation as strivens...o'neal was redshirted her freshman year (non-medical related) I knew someone was going to bring up a Nebraska player after I mentioned a Texas one lol, im a fan of neither programs so my thinking applies to all players in similar situations, including stivrins.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 7, 2023 14:40:15 GMT -5
The interesting twist is that Franklin took her medical redshirt year during the Covid season (which is why she is considered a RS Junior on the roster page), but the NCAA basically granted everyone a redshirt for that year since that year kinda didn't count (though it sorta did). So Franklin is still due a medical redshirt year if needed, right?
I mean I understood why she wouldn't get 6 years automatically for redshirting in 2021, as one poster argued for, but this is different. I'm just not sure I understand how the NCAA sees things.
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Post by robtearle on Jun 7, 2023 15:02:30 GMT -5
The interesting twist is that Franklin took her medical redshirt year during the Covid season (which is why she is considered a RS Junior on the roster page), but the NCAA basically granted everyone a redshirt for that year since that year kinda didn't count (though it sorta did). So Franklin is still due a medical redshirt year if needed, right? I mean I understood why she wouldn't get 6 years automatically for redshirting in 2021, as one poster argued for, but this is different. I'm just not sure I understand how the NCAA sees things. The "2020" season played in spring 2021 just doesn't count as anything; neither 'red shirt' nor medical hardship. So for her eligibility going forward, it is as if she were a freshman in 2021, with four years eligibility to use and five years to use them in. Assuming 2023 turns into a medical hardship year (and of course we don't know if that will be the case) she would still have her 'normal' fifth year in 2025 to use the fourth year of eligibility. (Yes, 2025 would be a sixth year of school, but only the fifth year in terms of normal athletic eligibility.) If you want to go into 'Kayla Caffey' territory, she might even be able to play in 2026, if the current injury turns into a two-year medical hardship situation (or if another injury were to come along.) Getting such a 'two-year hardship" sixth year on her eligibility 'clock' would be more of an exception that 2025 would be, but such a 6th year wouldn't be all that unusual. (It would be a 7th year, if you include COVID-2020, but that's how Caffey got to her 7th year; Caffey did one redshirt year, one COVID year and one medical hardship year, plus four normal years of competition. Yeah, that's a LONG time to be a college student.)
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 7, 2023 15:24:30 GMT -5
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