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Post by ndodge on Jun 6, 2023 15:02:19 GMT -5
Regarding a Rettke option, WI vball replied to essentially that Q of mine on Facebook: "Dana was in Antalya, which was about 8 hours from us in Istanbul. We tried to make it work but we didn’t have enough time to get there/back"
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 6, 2023 15:03:04 GMT -5
That's pretty cool and digging pretty deep for Badger support (to meet a basketball player essentially a Carlini contemporary). Did it not work out at all to go see Rettke at VNL ? That would have been epic as that venue was packed and energetic. VNL is in Antalya, on the south side of the country, 450 miles from Istanbul, where the team is.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 6, 2023 15:14:20 GMT -5
I had a feeling it was something health related. I wonder if this was also behind her omission from spring practice? Anyway, this is why you should never worry about over recruiting. There is always something.
Get better Frank! I’m sure you will.
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Post by robtearle on Jun 6, 2023 16:52:34 GMT -5
That's pretty cool and digging pretty deep for Badger support (to meet a basketball player essentially a Carlini contemporary). Did it not work out at all to go see Rettke at VNL ? That would have been epic as that venue was packed and energetic. I don't know if you recall, or maybe never knew, but in that era, basketballers Nigel, Duje Dukan, and Frank Kaminsky (and to a lesser extent Vito Brown) were at VB matches fairly regularly. At the time Dukan was dating Ellen Chapman and Kaminsky was dating Deme Morales. I also saw one combination or another of them at women's hockey a couple times. Nigel etal. were Badger sports fans.
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Post by robtearle on Jun 6, 2023 16:57:56 GMT -5
That is very specific HIPAA protected information in that tweet. I assume she granted permission. After a quick Google search, interpreted this as "too many swings were taken and the nerves are damaged". It sounds awful. It sounds like piformis syndrome, but in the arm. It doesn't sound good for a vb player.
Interesting, the stuff you learn on VT..."overhead athletes," I assume that includes tennis players, basketball, discus & javelin, etc. There's a case citation from a female volleyball player in that link.
Your link is broken somehow. I think/hope this is what it is supposed to be tinyurl.com/5n98nwkw
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Post by ndodge on Jun 6, 2023 17:05:26 GMT -5
That's pretty cool and digging pretty deep for Badger support (to meet a basketball player essentially a Carlini contemporary). Did it not work out at all to go see Rettke at VNL ? That would have been epic as that venue was packed and energetic. I don't know if you recall, or maybe never knew, but in that era, basketballers Nigel, Duje Dukan, and Frank Kaminsky (and to a lesser extent Vito Brown) were at VB matches fairly regularly. At the time Dukan was dating Ellen Chapman and Kaminsky was dating Deme Morales. I also saw one combination or another of them at women's hockey a couple times. Nigel etal. were Badger sports fans. Ethan Happ / Jordan Robbins also.
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Post by tablealgebra on Jun 6, 2023 17:15:57 GMT -5
Ouch. I hope her recover goes well. As much as it sucks, that may answer our question of whether she or TTA would be the one on the bench. Definitely happy we got TTA to come to Madison Yeah, sorry to hear this. Franklin was poised to really take the next step I think and it sucks for her to have this setback. On the other side of things, I always felt people were way too squeamish about having too many projected starters in the mix. Unfortunately, in college volleyball one or two players out for injury is the norm. Hopefully Frank can come back for the season but even if she can the likelihood of us staying so healthy that a former starter is pushed to the bench is not very high.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 6, 2023 17:48:57 GMT -5
After a little research, recovery time for surgery of this syndrome is 12 weeks & the surgeries are said to be very effective 12 weeks is 8/29 so there's hope she'll get to play some in the non conference. I'd have to think that given Wisconsin's overall roster composition, this is pretty significant, and she may take a redshirt. By time September rolls around, Wisconsin should be gelling and firing at a high level, in particular with their 6-2. If recovery time is end of August, she would still need even more time to condition, train, and get reps with the team just to get to playing at a higher level than either TTA or Orzol on the OH in the front row. That's already a big ask when healthy given how competitive the gym is, and coming back from a shoulder injury, she'd have to push herself even harder to see the floor, potentially further exacerbating her condition.
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Post by robtearle on Jun 6, 2023 17:56:42 GMT -5
12 weeks is 8/29 so there's hope she'll get to play some in the non conference. I'd have to think that given Wisconsin's overall roster composition, this is pretty significant. By time September rolls around, Wisconsin should be gelling and firing at a high level, in particular with their 6-2. If recovery time is end of August, she would still need even more time to condition, train, and get reps with the team just to get to playing at a higher level than either TTA or Orzol on the OH in the front row. While I'm sure there a good bit of variability form 'case to case' and person to person, if you look at the 'case studies' for the VB players mentioned in the article GreatLakes.. linked for us, upwards of 12 month for 'full recovery' might be more likely. Even if she's getting to 'playing shape' by mid-season, mid-October, taking the medical hardship (and not blowing it by playing in the second half of the season) might make more sense than 'hurrying back'. I hate having to consider these things...
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 6, 2023 18:01:17 GMT -5
I'd have to think that given Wisconsin's overall roster composition, this is pretty significant. By time September rolls around, Wisconsin should be gelling and firing at a high level, in particular with their 6-2. If recovery time is end of August, she would still need even more time to condition, train, and get reps with the team just to get to playing at a higher level than either TTA or Orzol on the OH in the front row. While I'm sure there a good bit of variability form 'case to case' and person to person, if you look at the 'case studies' for the VB players mentioned in the article GreatLakes.. linked for us, upwards of 12 month for 'full recovery' might be more likely. Even if she's getting to 'playing shape' by mid-season, mid-October, taking the medical hardship (and not blowing it by playing in the second half of the season) might make more sense than 'hurrying back'. I hate having to consider these things... Right. And Wisconsin doesn't NEED her to hurry back this season. If they do, my guess is that they have bigger problems.
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Post by 25or624 on Jun 6, 2023 18:03:28 GMT -5
Coach Sheffield said "So much to be thankful for .." when he tweeted the news about Sarah. After reading the link provided by Mr. Earle, I'm now guessing Kelly must be talking about the UW Sports docs, at least in part. It sounds like this diagnosis might not be on every doctor's radar. Blood clots are always scary things too. Get well Sarah at your own pace.
Meanwhile, I hope Ella Wroble is up to the challenge, Saige is a contributor when she is back and Husky Dawg Pack is a good prognosticator. Go Badgers [Dawgs too, at least until we see them in The NCAA Tournament. I live in Mill Creek WA, but UW grad].
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Post by dhpapke on Jun 6, 2023 18:07:47 GMT -5
The picture of Anna Smrek next to Nigel Hayes should put to bed any doubts about her being an honest 6'9". She might be closer to 6'10".
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 6, 2023 19:05:04 GMT -5
Those prognoses for Franklin do not give me a lot of hope for her playing much this season, though it sounds like the interventions definitely work.
On the depth side, the badgers are still fine. Wrobel will definitely get some playing time now. Excited to see what she can do.
I still think Reed looks pretty decent in the back row. So we have some backup there with Damrow coming in.
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Post by tablealgebra on Jun 6, 2023 22:35:14 GMT -5
The picture of Anna Smrek next to Nigel Hayes should put to bed any doubts about her being an honest 6'9". She might be closer to 6'10". To be fair, Nigel's listed 6'8" in college was nonsense.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 7, 2023 5:27:12 GMT -5
Coach Sheffield said "So much to be thankful for .." when he tweeted the news about Sarah. After reading the link provided by Mr. Earle, I'm now guessing Kelly must be talking about the UW Sports docs, at least in part. It sounds like this diagnosis might not be on every doctor's radar. Blood clots are always scary things too. Get well Sarah at your own pace. Agree... it sounds like QSS isn't a first-line, or even second- or third-line diagnosis for athletes experiencing these symptoms. And from what I've read, the issue with blood clots can come on quickly and be life- and limb-threatening. So I for one am thankful that she has a diagnosis and what sounds like a successful intervention and treatment plan. I really hope Frank doesn't feel pressured to come back on any timetable but the one her body sets for her. We want her healthy two, five, ten, and twenty years down the line.
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