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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Jan 26, 2023 19:32:15 GMT -5
I don't have any volleyball smarts, so I can't weigh-in on TTA v. Sarah. That said, it does seem to be the case that Franklin is still a relatively young player with plenty of room to grow after a year with the Badgers. I do wonder what Coach Sheffield et al have in store for Ella Wrobel, other than "just another 6'4" outside hitter with a heavy arm who can pop in once in a while to give Sarah a chance to shake off an in-game funk". Can anyone comment on her pre-college playing experience and speculate about the possibilities for giving her a bigger role in 2023? I keep thinking the coaching staff must have some kind of plan other than "you have to play better to get on the court". Salema Rockwell compared her to Mikaela Foecke, which would signal 6 rotation player, so that's impressive. Her bio here, uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-volleyball/roster/ella-wrobel/12010 is very impressive as well. So, leaves one to wonder. I think Freshmen need to knock Kelly's socks off, and she didn't. Think about what it likely would've taken to displace Julia, Sarah, Anna, or Devyn. Although I think if he felt she was up to it, we would've seen more. I believe Kelly needs to think long and hard about how much Julia's lack of terminating prowess this team can take and still be successful (I LOVE Julia BTW.) I mean, they're an Elite 8 level team as is. That being said, I didn't see a lot of room for her last year, but if she doesn't see significantly more playing time this next season, one has to wonder if she's not as advertised, or there's a compete level/lack of hard work issue? I think we learn a lot this year. TTA transferring in upsets that obviously though.
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Post by mnwis20 on Jan 26, 2023 19:38:14 GMT -5
if tta goes to wisco I hope wrobel or orzol go into the portal. either Franklin or ozol will go to the bench, and I have a feeling it'll be orzol. and wrobel would become 4th option at OH This. While TTA would be a great addition in terms of skill I wonder what pause that would bring to future recruits. You’d basically be saying two-year starter and second-team all Big Ten Orzol needs to sit. As well as top 20 recruit Wrobel again. This after Demps leaves after this season. And this is after we bring in Franklin as a transfer. This feels a bit like the Podraza potentially coming here discussion. Of course Podraza and TTA would bring incredible skill and ability. But what does that do more broadly to the team etc? I dunno.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 26, 2023 19:46:16 GMT -5
if tta goes to wisco I hope wrobel or orzol go into the portal. either Franklin or ozol will go to the bench, and I have a feeling it'll be orzol. and wrobel would become 4th option at OH This. While TTA would be a great addition in terms of skill I wonder what pause that would bring to future recruits. You’d basically be saying two-year starter and second-team all Big Ten Orzol needs to sit. As well as top 20 recruit Wrobel again. This after Demps leaves after this season. And this is after we bring in Franklin as a transfer. This feels a bit like the Podraza potentially coming here discussion. Of course Podraza and TTA would bring incredible skill and ability. But what does that do more broadly to the team etc? I dunno. Aren't all top teams delivering the same message? 🙄
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Post by tablealgebra on Jan 26, 2023 20:36:49 GMT -5
if tta goes to wisco I hope wrobel or orzol go into the portal. either Franklin or ozol will go to the bench, and I have a feeling it'll be orzol. and wrobel would become 4th option at OH This. While TTA would be a great addition in terms of skill I wonder what pause that would bring to future recruits. You’d basically be saying two-year starter and second-team all Big Ten Orzol needs to sit. As well as top 20 recruit Wrobel again. This after Demps leaves after this season. And this is after we bring in Franklin as a transfer. This feels a bit like the Podraza potentially coming here discussion. Of course Podraza and TTA would bring incredible skill and ability. But what does that do more broadly to the team etc? I dunno. I feel it's different. Podraza brought some drawbacks which would have really created some problems (though if people are right and Sheffield is looking at trying to go back to a 5-1 with Izzy or (more likey) MJ those problems will be there as well. There is no downside to bringing TTA in, other than someone who would normally start hits the bench. And frankly, if we run a 6-2 we need one more person for depth. On the other hand, I haven't heard anything which suggests that TTA is considering Wisconsin, so it all seems extremely speculative ... just kidding?
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 26, 2023 21:57:25 GMT -5
if tta goes to wisco I hope wrobel or orzol go into the portal. either Franklin or ozol will go to the bench, and I have a feeling it'll be orzol. and wrobel would become 4th option at OH This. While TTA would be a great addition in terms of skill I wonder what pause that would bring to future recruits. You’d basically be saying two-year starter and second-team all Big Ten Orzol needs to sit. As well as top 20 recruit Wrobel again. This after Demps leaves after this season. And this is after we bring in Franklin as a transfer. This feels a bit like the Podraza potentially coming here discussion. Of course Podraza and TTA would bring incredible skill and ability. But what does that do more broadly to the team etc? I dunno. on the same note tho, if he's consistently bringing in proven transfers, missing a couple recruits wouldn't matter because they wouldn't have started in their first one or two years anyways. its how you wanna look at it. Wisconsin wins A LOT, and sheffield appears to be a well liked coach. a player who is unhappy because their not playing is very different than a player who is unhappy with the program or school. what Sheffields work in the portal has also helped show recruits is how successful Wisconsin is... there's two ways to look at it
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Post by vbruh on Jan 26, 2023 21:59:25 GMT -5
There is surely a downside, as mnwis20 mentions…bringing TTA would signal to any top 2025 recruit that UW prioritizes transfers over recruits, and I can assure you that student athletes will make their decisions with this in mind. I have a ring side seat to this discussion! Even the 2024 commits would have to reconsider
Top programs should look to use the portal to augment, not supplant, their team. Look at Ohio State, Minnesota, Stanford…priority is to develop their players and team, vs Texas, Nebraska, hopefully not Wisconsin.
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Post by tablealgebra on Jan 26, 2023 22:46:14 GMT -5
There is surely a downside, as mnwis20 mentions…bringing TTA would signal to any top 2025 recruit that UW prioritizes transfers over recruits, and I can assure you that student athletes will make their decisions with this in mind. I have a ring side seat to this discussion! Even the 2024 commits would have to reconsider Top programs should look to use the portal to augment, not supplant, their team. Look at Ohio State, Minnesota, Stanford…priority is to develop their players and team, vs Texas, Nebraska, hopefully not Wisconsin. Sheffield's message is always 100% the same - starting spots are not guaranteed and I'm going to try to recruit someone who can challenge you for your spot. Someone a ways back on this thread talked about how he said that to Lauren Carlini and her response was good luck. People come to Wisconsin to play for a top program with competition in the practice gym that challenges for championships. Not for guaranteed starting spots.
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Post by alt on Jan 27, 2023 13:00:26 GMT -5
I think Robinson is a star on the court. IMO I think she should find a school that will allow her to play backrow, just as Skylar Field did. Right now just playing front row will not let her succeed at pro level. She'll struggle and honestly wont go too far in her career without any experience in the backrow. This is only if she were to decide to go pro, not sure where her head is at.
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Jan 27, 2023 13:15:03 GMT -5
I think Robinson is a star on the court. IMO I think she should find a school that will allow her to play backrow, just as Skylar Field did. Right now just playing front row will not let her succeed at pro level. She'll struggle and honestly wont go too far in her career without any experience in the backrow. This is only if she were to decide to go pro, not sure where her head is at.
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Post by mad1 on Jan 27, 2023 14:48:52 GMT -5
I think Robinson is a star on the court. IMO I think she should find a school that will allow her to play backrow, just as Skylar Field did. Right now just playing front row will not let her succeed at pro level. She'll struggle and honestly wont go too far in her career without any experience in the backrow. This is only if she were to decide to go pro, not sure where her head is at. When did it become part of Sheffield's job at UW to prepare players for professional career? I believe he was hired to make the Wisconsin women's volleyball team successful. Regardless of how players might succeed at the professional level.
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Post by dc155 on Jan 27, 2023 14:49:35 GMT -5
Any word on how TTA's visit is going?
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 27, 2023 14:53:23 GMT -5
I think Robinson is a star on the court. IMO I think she should find a school that will allow her to play backrow, just as Skylar Field did. Right now just playing front row will not let her succeed at pro level. She'll struggle and honestly wont go too far in her career without any experience in the backrow. This is only if she were to decide to go pro, not sure where her head is at. When did it become part of Sheffield's job at UW to prepare players for professional career? I believe he was hired to make the Wisconsin women's volleyball team successful. Regardless of how players might succeed at the professional level. it’s not his job. But if Devyn wants to play at the next level (which I’m sure she does), it’s not going to be at opposite. (Which was OP’s point)
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Post by alt on Jan 27, 2023 15:10:00 GMT -5
I think Robinson is a star on the court. IMO I think she should find a school that will allow her to play backrow, just as Skylar Field did. Right now just playing front row will not let her succeed at pro level. She'll struggle and honestly wont go too far in her career without any experience in the backrow. This is only if she were to decide to go pro, not sure where her head is at. When did it become part of Sheffield's job at UW to prepare players for professional career? I believe he was hired to make the Wisconsin women's volleyball team successful. Regardless of how players might succeed at the professional level. If you read the post it states "this is only if she were to decide to go pro, not sure where her head is at." She simply will not go far without being an all around player.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 27, 2023 15:44:33 GMT -5
When did it become part of Sheffield's job at UW to prepare players for professional career? I believe he was hired to make the Wisconsin women's volleyball team successful. Regardless of how players might succeed at the professional level. If you read the post it states "this is only if she were to decide to go pro, not sure where her head is at." She simply will not go far without being an all around player. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 She has the ability to play at a high level in the middle. 🙄
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Post by tablealgebra on Jan 27, 2023 16:00:14 GMT -5
I think Robinson is a star on the court. IMO I think she should find a school that will allow her to play backrow, just as Skylar Field did. Right now just playing front row will not let her succeed at pro level. She'll struggle and honestly wont go too far in her career without any experience in the backrow. This is only if she were to decide to go pro, not sure where her head is at. When did it become part of Sheffield's job at UW to prepare players for professional career? I believe he was hired to make the Wisconsin women's volleyball team successful. Regardless of how players might succeed at the professional level. But to be fair, in other sports coaches have carved out a reputation as preparing players for the pros which helps in recruiting. With a high-profile program like Wisconsin that might be a big deal especially with pro volleyball coming to America. My biggest dispute with saying he has to let Devyn play back row to prep her for the pros is that I'm not sure that's actually necessary at all; I tend to think she'll pick up what she needs, whether she goes pro as a MB, as an Opposite, or whatever. It's not like they're not drilling all the skills in practice; yeah there's specialization but it's not that extreme. What's important is that she's using the skills that will make her stand out as a pro in college games.
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