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Post by asdf27 on Dec 12, 2022 0:25:12 GMT -5
Nonetheless, switch setters and we’re not having this conversation. sure, but Lilley now gets to manage Iosia, eggleston, and parra passing and says goodbye to stumler and skinner passing to her. I would be one maaaddd setter. lets not forget who allowed to Lilley to do whatever she wanted in that final. and if anybodyv watches the replay there is plenty slow-mos of stumler having an absolute field day going under and around butler. tooled Phillips multiple times. she was plenty terminal when grabriel wasnt front row You have to remember Lilley ran probably the fastest offense that year. Even faster than what Baylor ran that year. With the passing Kentucky had and the speed of the offense even an average hitter could put up good numbers |
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 12, 2022 0:28:28 GMT -5
sure, but Lilley now gets to manage Iosia, eggleston, and parra passing and says goodbye to stumler and skinner passing to her. I would be one maaaddd setter. lets not forget who allowed to Lilley to do whatever she wanted in that final. and if anybodyv watches the replay there is plenty slow-mos of stumler having an absolute field day going under and around butler. tooled Phillips multiple times. she was plenty terminal when grabriel wasnt front row You have to remember Lilley ran probably the fastest offense that year. Even faster than what Baylor ran that year. With the passing Kentucky had and the speed of the offense even an average hitter could put up good numbers thats exactly my point. kentucky had the passing to let Lilley do what she did. put her on another team and she can't do as much when she's running around the court trying to fix the pass |
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Post by vnv21 on Dec 12, 2022 0:29:49 GMT -5
y’all are seriously undermining how good Kentucky’s pins were that year but I digress it feels like bad energy to be discussing this lmaooo
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Post by vbsam16 on Dec 12, 2022 0:30:37 GMT -5
Anyway…I’m very excited to see all the nebraska fans root against Texas and will USD to the finals 🤩
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 12, 2022 0:31:49 GMT -5
y’all are seriously undermining how good Kentucky’s pins were that year but I digress it feels like bad energy to be discussing this lmaooo literally both first team AAs that year and then we all watched skinner look like the best out of everyone this past summer when she was teamed with all the 2021 ncaa studs plus a few older girls |
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Post by asdf27 on Dec 12, 2022 0:32:13 GMT -5
You have to remember Lilley ran probably the fastest offense that year. Even faster than what Baylor ran that year. With the passing Kentucky had and the speed of the offense even an average hitter could put up good numbers thats exactly my point. kentucky had the passing to let Lilley do what she did. put her on another team and she can't do as much when she's running around the court trying to fix the pass I will have to re-watch what our passing looked like (opening up old wounds), but at the time that seemed like our best passing trio (Peterson, Iosia, and O'brien) I wondered why JE never let Parra in the game. I mean probably because she came to the US a couple months before and didn't wanna gamble in that situation I get. I just think that our serving was very WEAK and that's putting it nicely aside from O'neal. I think that if we had tougher serving that it would have been a closer game possibly a different outcome. |
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Post by anastasia1 on Dec 12, 2022 0:42:25 GMT -5
i refuse to vote in the poll i will be cheering for both teams 😩 but i will be cheering a little louder for Texas
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Post by volleyfan24 on Dec 12, 2022 3:22:35 GMT -5
Texas in 4 Blossoms block will be exploited. Also that Texas floor D is better than Stanfords. Texas has superior middles as well.
It’s not that I don’t believe San Diego can’t pull the upset it’s more that I don’t think Eggleston will be denied. Comparing her to Luke’s is vastly understating Blossoms setting. Eggleston could carry a team on her own Luke’s I don’t think. She’s very good just not the same level. Credit Lukes passing though she was solid against Stanford and they went after her. Also Frohling can’t afford the slow start she had against the Card.
I believe the only true edge SD holds position wise is setter and Oppo.
No cat in this fight just hope for a good volleyball match.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Dec 12, 2022 3:37:44 GMT -5
Go San Diego
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Post by raian13 on Dec 12, 2022 5:23:39 GMT -5
Also can someone do position/player match ups? How do you think each starter matches up with each other? Eggleston = Frohling Skinner = Edwards Phillips = Lukes O’Neal = Blackwell Caffey = Stoner SKT = Blossom Fleck = Benbow Akana = Allen Frohling is an opposite. So Eggleston = Lukes (depends on the night...typically edge to Eggleston) Skinner > Edwards Phillips < Frohling O’Neal < Blackwell Caffey +/- Stoner SKT < Blossom Fleck > Benbow Akana = Allen I know but I matched up Logan on the left while Frohling is at the opposite when they’re both in the front row. I’m matching up hitting vs blocking. Am I correct? |
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Post by slxpress on Dec 12, 2022 6:10:25 GMT -5
Frohling is an opposite. So Eggleston = Lukes (depends on the night...typically edge to Eggleston) Skinner > Edwards Phillips < Frohling O’Neal < Blackwell Caffey +/- Stoner SKT < Blossom Fleck > Benbow Akana = Allen I know but I matched up Logan on the left while Frohling is at the opposite when they’re both in the front row. I matching up hitting vs blocking. Am I correct? But then why matchup Skinner with Edwards? I don't know. It's your matchup. It can be as consistent or inconsistent as you want. But it's confusing to me if you're trying to match up the left pin with the opposite - which you did in the case of Eggleston and Frohling and Phillips and Lukes - but then you have the two other left pins facing each other. Not to mention anyone else, who won't be lined up with one another, either. It doesn't bother me. It's just confusing. I just see both of these teams as very talented. I continue to believe the team that's able to get their opponent out of system the most will win, even if Blossom is amazing out of system...which she is. Some other fun things for me I haven't seen mentioned: San Diego is the only team I've watched that I believe runs as many slides as Texas. I'm not saying that's true for the whole country. It's just true for the matches I've watched. San Diego runs a ton of slides with Blackwell, and some to Stoner, too. Texas runs a ton to O'Neal, but they also run slides for either Caffey or Bergmark some as well. Blossom has 31 aces to 13 errors. Now, I'm not big on aces to errors ratios, but that's phenomenal. Lukes more than reverses that, however. Both teams are pretty much identical with how many service errors per set they average. San Diego is 2.19469 and Texas is 2.19354. 1/1000th of a point apart. Both teams force their opponents into poor hitting percentages. .157 for San Diego. .165 for Texas. Honestly, statistically these are two very even teams. |
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Post by rcryland on Dec 12, 2022 6:41:54 GMT -5
What recency bias would I have? I've said this all year long about SKT. In system she's terrific. Out of system she isn't nearly as effective. It's why it's so important for UT's passing to remain at a high level. Why do you think Texas tips so much? Sure, some of it is because of trying to vary swings, but a lot of it is because of the sets they're getting, and not wanting to commit a hitting error - whether into the block, the net, or out of bounds. Compare that to San Diego, who almost never tips. They'll hit roll shots and half swings to get the ball into the campfire, but rarely do San Diego pins tip. I'd actually say out of system we ARE miles apart. In system I don't think there's that much of a difference, frankly. Blossom is better at disguising where she's going with the ball, but SKT is not bad at it. SKT is a wonderful setter. I'm glad we have her. If Texas takes advantage of Blossom being in the front row, like Kentucky did with Gabriel in the national championship, I'll be even more glad (although Gabriel was 5'6 to Blossom's 5'9). But acting like SKT and Blossom are nearly equivalents to one another in out of system sets is farcical. We watching the same Texas team? Season Hitting % / K/S: TEXASEggleston .300 / 4.23 Skinner .299 / 3.62 O'Neal .448 / 2.23 Caffey+Bergmark .371 / 1.37 Phillips .395 / 2.20 TEAM .339 / 14.37 ^Not bad for a bunch of Tippy McTippersons.
USDLukes .269 / 3.72 Edwards .275 / 3.37 Blackwell .363 / 1.97 Stoner .299 / 1.47 Frohling .325 / 3.08 TEAM .292 / 13.79 ^vs. an arguably inferior schedule; maybe they should tip more?So if SKT & Blossom are really "miles apart" when it comes to OOS setting, given the above #s that can only mean that USD is running OOS a LOT more than Texas. Which is....good for us? Yes, Blossom finds her RS (who plays backrow some) more often than SKT. Frohling is very good - arguably their best hitter, all things considered. That tells me Blossom is *looking* for her more often, because she *needs* to. |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 12, 2022 6:59:05 GMT -5
For any of you VolleyMetrics people, what have Stanford, San Diego, and Texas opponent passing numbers been so far this tournament? And can someone post passing numbers of SD’s and Texas’s passers in the tournament? I just think serve/pass is going to be especially crucial in this matchup since there’s such a big setter discrepancy. Here is the information. Opponent passing grade in the tournament Stanford: 1.85 San Diego: 2.06 Texas: 1.74 Passing grades so far in the tournament: San Diego: 2.02 Lukes: 2.08 43.6 GP% (110 attempts) Benbow: 2.1 41.6 GP% (65 attempts Allen: 2.02 42.9 GP% (49 attempts) Bennett: 1.95 42.9 GP% (43 attempts) Edwards: 1.7 25.9 GP% (27 attempts) Texas: 2.11 Akana: 1.89 41.1 GP% (56 attempts) Fleck: 2.34 68.5 GP% (54 attempts) Halter: 2.31 59 GP% (39 attempts) Eggleston: 2.1 50 GP% (24 attempts) Skinner: 1.85 40 GP% (20 attempts) |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 12, 2022 7:10:28 GMT -5
Based on those stats it’s the same for me with Texas.
Serve: continue the serving that has opponents passing a 1.74.
Receive: continue solid team passing, Fleck and Halter are carrying the load and should continue.
Set: SKT’s decision making (finding the 1-1 hitter) timing and location needs to be on.
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Dec 12, 2022 8:03:31 GMT -5
Also can someone do position/player match ups? How do you think each starter matches up with each other? Eggleston = Frohling Skinner = Edwards Phillips = Lukes O’Neal = Blackwell Caffey = Stoner SKT = Blossom Fleck = Benbow Akana = Allen Frohling is an opposite. So Eggleston = Lukes (depends on the night...typically edge to Eggleston) Skinner > Edwards Phillips < Frohling O’Neal < Blackwell Caffey +/- Stoner SKT < Blossom Fleck > Benbow Akana = Allen Blackwell over O’Neal? I’m gonna need y’all to start putting respect on her name! |
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