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Post by bprtbone on Dec 26, 2022 9:11:38 GMT -5
She always talked about how Michigan was her dream blah blah blah….. if it was true she’d finish out her last year. It’s all about her and the Rosen’s. I feel like she pry felt some pressure or something to leave. Would be kind of awkward to be talking to her boyfriends parents how great the season is going after they were canned. In other words, she might not have left if she wasn’t dating Mark and Leisa’s son. I think her post tells us a couple of things: first, the Rosen's are not leaving voluntarily. Otherwise, she probably would have hung around to at least meet with the new coach, finish her degree, and see what a new setter might offer. Secondly, there were clearly divisions between her and some of her teammates. Those divisions explain a lot of what we saw on the floor this season. Looking forward, this is devastating news for the program. We've lost our best player and at least one of our top incoming recruits. Regardless the quality of the new hire, they will be getting a late start and faced with a huge roster retool. It's going to take time to get the program rebuilt and we are likely facing a few seasons of struggle before any appreciable gains are realized.
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Post by afanofthegame on Dec 26, 2022 12:16:05 GMT -5
I feel like she pry felt some pressure or something to leave. Would be kind of awkward to be talking to her boyfriends parents how great the season is going after they were canned. In other words, she might not have left if she wasn’t dating Mark and Leisa’s son. I think her post tells us a couple of things: first, the Rosen's are not leaving voluntarily. Otherwise, she probably would have hung around to at least meet with the new coach, finish her degree, and see what a new setter might offer. Secondly, there were clearly divisions between her and some of her teammates. Those divisions explain a lot of what we saw on the floor this season. Looking forward, this is devastating news for the program. We've lost our best player and at least one of our top incoming recruits. Regardless the quality of the new hire, they will be getting a late start and faced with a huge roster retool. It's going to take time to get the program rebuilt and we are likely facing a few seasons of struggle before any appreciable gains are realized. Agree the new coach will have their work cut out for them. However, the returning players will likely be happier.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 13:51:35 GMT -5
I feel like she pry felt some pressure or something to leave. Would be kind of awkward to be talking to her boyfriends parents how great the season is going after they were canned. In other words, she might not have left if she wasn’t dating Mark and Leisa’s son. I think her post tells us a couple of things: first, the Rosen's are not leaving voluntarily. Otherwise, she probably would have hung around to at least meet with the new coach, finish her degree, and see what a new setter might offer. Secondly, there were clearly divisions between her and some of her teammates. Those divisions explain a lot of what we saw on the floor this season. Looking forward, this is devastating news for the program. We've lost our best player and at least one of our top incoming recruits. Regardless the quality of the new hire, they will be getting a late start and faced with a huge roster retool. It's going to take time to get the program rebuilt and we are likely facing a few seasons of struggle before any appreciable gains are realized. Scottee is only a junior. Or are you implying the new coach would replace her? I think the division between teammates is reflected on their Instagram all region posts as well, some people commented all off of them except hers
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Post by thevoiceofreason on Dec 26, 2022 13:53:55 GMT -5
I feel like she pry felt some pressure or something to leave. Would be kind of awkward to be talking to her boyfriends parents how great the season is going after they were canned. In other words, she might not have left if she wasn’t dating Mark and Leisa’s son. I think her post tells us a couple of things: first, the Rosen's are not leaving voluntarily. Otherwise, she probably would have hung around to at least meet with the new coach, finish her degree, and see what a new setter might offer. Secondly, there were clearly divisions between her and some of her teammates. Those divisions explain a lot of what we saw on the floor this season. Looking forward, this is devastating news for the program. We've lost our best player and at least one of our top incoming recruits. Regardless the quality of the new hire, they will be getting a late start and faced with a huge roster retool. It's going to take time to get the program rebuilt and we are likely facing a few seasons of struggle before any appreciable gains are realized. The timetable on a new coach is imperative for this program going forward. If this is going to drag on weeks we're likely to lose more than Robinson - Pertofsky - Mruzik. I haven't seen anything about losing the kids that have been announced as signees, just the one that was verbaled (so assuming she was a walk-on). I haven't seen any of the other commits make announcements yet, but admittedly don't see anything unless its posted by UM so unlikely to see de-commits. Maybe a new coach can get Robinson and Pertofsky to come back? I'm sure the Mruzik ship has set sail. I'll be interested to see where she lands. On another note - I saw Haley Hallgren is going back to her beach roots and playing at her old arch rival from the USC days: UCLA. Truly wish her the best. She went through so much in her time in AA, wish she would have gotten more of a chance this season.
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Post by bprtbone on Dec 26, 2022 15:05:14 GMT -5
Scottee is only a junior. Or are you implying the new coach would replace her? Scottee will be a senior next season on her last year of scholarship, with no allegiance from a new coaching staff. Incoming freshman Morgan Burke might very well beat her out in the practice gym.
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Post by bprtbone on Dec 26, 2022 15:20:25 GMT -5
The timetable on a new coach is imperative for this program going forward. If this is going to drag on weeks we're likely to lose more than Robinson - Pertofsky - Mruzik. I haven't seen anything about losing the kids that have been announced as signees, just the one that was verbaled (so assuming she was a walk-on). I haven't seen any of the other commits make announcements yet, but admittedly don't see anything unless its posted by UM so unlikely to see de-commits. Maybe a new coach can get Robinson and Pertofsky to come back? I'm sure the Mruzik ship has set sail. I'll be interested to see where she lands. On another note - I saw Haley Hallgren is going back to her beach roots and playing at her old arch rival from the USC days: UCLA. Truly wish her the best. She went through so much in her time in AA, wish she would have gotten more of a chance this season. Agree on the timetable, we are already behind on the transfer portal game. Regarding Robinson and Pertofsky, their respective scholarships are up and similar to Ohio State my assumption is that they were not offered a 5th year in order to preserve current players and future commits. They are out shopping for a good fit and a free year of graduate school, as they should. If we weren't bringing Paige Jones back, we weren't bringing anybody back. Super happy for Hallgren, she's been an inspiration in her time in A2. I'm also curious to see if Allison Jacobs sticks around. She came here partly due to her relationship with Mruzik. But now that OH is wide open, she likely can find a more permanent spot in the starting lineup.
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Post by thevoiceofreason on Dec 26, 2022 16:15:35 GMT -5
The timetable on a new coach is imperative for this program going forward. If this is going to drag on weeks we're likely to lose more than Robinson - Pertofsky - Mruzik. I haven't seen anything about losing the kids that have been announced as signees, just the one that was verbaled (so assuming she was a walk-on). I haven't seen any of the other commits make announcements yet, but admittedly don't see anything unless its posted by UM so unlikely to see de-commits. Maybe a new coach can get Robinson and Pertofsky to come back? I'm sure the Mruzik ship has set sail. I'll be interested to see where she lands. On another note - I saw Haley Hallgren is going back to her beach roots and playing at her old arch rival from the USC days: UCLA. Truly wish her the best. She went through so much in her time in AA, wish she would have gotten more of a chance this season. Agree on the timetable, we are already behind on the transfer portal game. Regarding Robinson and Pertofsky, their respective scholarships are up and similar to Ohio State my assumption is that they were not offered a 5th year in order to preserve current players and future commits. They are out shopping for a good fit and a free year of graduate school, as they should. If we weren't bringing Paige Jones back, we weren't bringing anybody back. Super happy for Hallgren, she's been an inspiration in her time in A2. I'm also curious to see if Allison Jacobs sticks around. She came here partly due to her relationship with Mruzik. But now that OH is wide open, she likely can find a more permanent spot in the starting lineup. So the senior class had six student-athletes, three of which you have to assume were scholarship athletes (Hallgren, Pertofsky, Robinson; not sure on Beals/Dowd/Liu). Plus Mruzik is leaving. That's four open scholarships and only two (current) signed freshmen. I know that the Covid forgiveness rule is gone now (which, talk about an all-time blunder by the NCAA not looking beyond ONE season), but a new coach dealing with few options because of the timeline would probably be looking at a few one-year players to fill those spots. UM is currently set to have some combination of Kendall Murray and Allison Jacobs on the pins. I admittedly know next to nothing about the prospect coming from Argentina, but will have to hope she can immediately push for playing time. If the new coach can keep everyone else currently on the roster, the biggest holes will be OH and RS, with the same old issue at S. Lib is in great shape with Grant. MB will be a step down with Robinson gone, but in decent shape with Boney/Nayambio. What if all this (apparent) inner-team animosity was already in place after last season and Jones didn't want to return to the mess? Maybe it was in a Rosen Report from the fall of 2021 or the Chalk Talk I attended, but for some reason I was under the impression early on that she was accepted into the master's program and was all set to come back. Hindsight being 20/20, she made a great decision.
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Post by bprtbone on Dec 26, 2022 16:51:27 GMT -5
So the senior class had six student-athletes, three of which you have to assume were scholarship athletes (Hallgren, Pertofsky, Robinson; not sure on Beals/Dowd/Liu). Plus Mruzik is leaving. That's four open scholarships and only two (current) signed freshmen. I know that the Covid forgiveness rule is gone now (which, talk about an all-time blunder by the NCAA not looking beyond ONE season), but a new coach dealing with few options because of the timeline would probably be looking at a few one-year players to fill those spots. UM is currently set to have some combination of Kendall Murray and Allison Jacobs on the pins. I admittedly know next to nothing about the prospect coming from Argentina, but will have to hope she can immediately push for playing time. If the new coach can keep everyone else currently on the roster, the biggest holes will be OH and RS, with the same old issue at S. Lib is in great shape with Grant. MB will be a step down with Robinson gone, but in decent shape with Boney/Nayambio. What if all this (apparent) inner-team animosity was already in place after last season and Jones didn't want to return to the mess? Maybe it was in a Rosen Report from the fall of 2021 or the Chalk Talk I attended, but for some reason I was under the impression early on that she was accepted into the master's program and was all set to come back. Hindsight being 20/20, she made a great decision. By my count, there should be two open scholarships available. The biggest need right now is at OH and maybe setter, pending how Burke pans out. It really depends on how the new coach wants to prioritize, bring in short-term, high impact transfers now to keep a credible competitive roster; spend them on Robinson and/or Pertofsky (do they even want to stay?) to shore things up; or invest longer term in some younger players. That's why the timing is so critical, the program needs a solid hire soon! As for Paige Jones you are probably thinking of Jon Jansen's podcast where she alluded to the possibility of a 5th year, depending on if she could get into the grad school program she wanted. I just assumed the program could have made that happen if they really wanted to, but I don't really know the reason. I do know we missed her this season, and neither Murray or Jacobs were able to adequately fill her shoes.
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Post by afanofthegame on Dec 26, 2022 17:49:24 GMT -5
There is one scholarship available. Mruzick’s since she’s leaving. That’s all. The incoming coach will have to make do with one from the portal a decide what’s most important…setting,OH, RS. Jones didn’t come back because of the Rosen’s. No question about it. She got into the program, had the scholarship but choose not to play because of them and the crap/drama/whatever you want to call it.
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Post by bprtbone on Dec 26, 2022 18:07:50 GMT -5
There is one scholarship available. Mruzick’s since she’s leaving. That’s all. The incoming coach will have to make do with one from the portal a decide what’s most important…setting,OH, RS. Jones didn’t come back because of the Rosen’s. No question about it. She got into the program, had the scholarship but choose not to play because of them and the crap/drama/whatever you want to call it. Is Brooke Humphrey on scholarship? I hadn't counted her as the Rosen's generally didn't offer one to their DS players.
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Post by afanofthegame on Dec 26, 2022 18:30:24 GMT -5
She is. Last two years. So her junior and senior years.
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Post by lo4um on Dec 26, 2022 19:14:05 GMT -5
Humphrey is on scholarship? Wuh.
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Post by thevoiceofreason on Dec 26, 2022 19:44:34 GMT -5
Humphrey was one I was excited to see develop... and now I wish she had a few years under a new coaching staff to perhaps get her to a higher level. Her serve effectiveness fell off, which is something we saw from far more prolific servers than her (Pertofsky and Jones from recent years). Maybe the right coaching could help her turn into an effective serve specialist/defender.
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Post by raian13 on Dec 26, 2022 20:06:23 GMT -5
So Mruzik is in the portal I see.
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Post by photos1 on Dec 26, 2022 20:16:45 GMT -5
I have never been a huge Rosen fan, but he is a good man and ran a clean program with limited resources. This is an undeserved unseemly ending… I hope whoever they hire is a complete bust … glad to see flight to the portal….
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