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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 6, 2024 1:19:16 GMT -5
I think Tri/Chaim have a higher ceiling than Tri/Trevor by a decent margin. I don't think Trevor or Theo will do as well with whichever partners they team up with, as they have with their former partners. Tri/Chaim should be the USA's #1 team by a mile. This partnership is kind of like Cheng/Hughes. USA#1 by a mile?!?!? Tri/Chaim by a mile?!?
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 6, 2024 1:20:52 GMT -5
I was really hoping Tri would break free and try something new. Trevor is great at what he does, but a change was needed for sure. Good timing I say— they’ll hopefully have that “new team energy” sustain them to Paris. I was hoping Tri would give Partain a call, but logistically it doesn’t make sense. Partain isn’t fully committed. Tri had to make a change since T2 had a long run without accomplishing anything, but its disappointing he had so little imagination. Chaim is basically the same player as Trevor. Neither is a good defender (I'd maybe even put Trevor as marginally better). Both are solid but not elite sideout players. (Maybe Chaim is a little better, especially given that he goes from hitting Theo's sets to Tri's). What other real differences are there? Chaim is more experienced, but thats a marginal difference, both are weak servers and Trevor is a much better setter. Compared to T2 (the times when Tri did all the blocking) this team is: Not better at blocking Not better at defense Not better at serving Worse at setting A little better at siding out How does that take Tri from a non-contender into regular contention? Theo, Partain, either Taylor, even Budinger or maybe Field would have given him more upside, but he opted to get more regular 5th place finishes. Basically he made the optimal decision to finish 13th at the Paris Olympics. Can't wait to see it! your guess wasn’t far off
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 6, 2024 1:22:02 GMT -5
I don't think Tri and Chaim will be a much better team than Tri & Trevor and therefore I don't see them being very successful on the FIVB tour. But at least Chaim's points will help them. another good guess
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Post by guest2 on Mar 6, 2024 1:23:06 GMT -5
Tri had to make a change since T2 had a long run without accomplishing anything, but its disappointing he had so little imagination. Chaim is basically the same player as Trevor. Neither is a good defender (I'd maybe even put Trevor as marginally better). Both are solid but not elite sideout players. (Maybe Chaim is a little better, especially given that he goes from hitting Theo's sets to Tri's). What other real differences are there? Chaim is more experienced, but thats a marginal difference, both are weak servers and Trevor is a much better setter. Compared to T2 (the times when Tri did all the blocking) this team is: Not better at blocking Not better at defense Not better at serving Worse at setting A little better at siding out How does that take Tri from a non-contender into regular contention? Theo, Partain, either Taylor, even Budinger or maybe Field would have given him more upside, but he opted to get more regular 5th place finishes. Basically he made the optimal decision to finish 13th at the Paris Olympics. Can't wait to see it! your guess wasn’t far off I'd like to take a bow after the beating I took on the long-term Partain stuff (still the same number of wins as Casey J! LOL) but I had no idea they would be this awful. I didn't think they would be good, but pathetic is a fair assessment now.
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 6, 2024 1:24:10 GMT -5
your guess wasn’t far off I'd like to take a bow after the beating I took on the long-term Partain stuff (still the same number of wins as Casey J! LOL) but I had no idea they would be this awful. I didn't think they would be good, but pathetic is a fair assessment now. I think you compared him to Rafu too
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Post by guest2 on Mar 6, 2024 1:25:49 GMT -5
I think Benesh & Partain are the USA men's beach team of the future. same This one
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Post by guest2 on Mar 6, 2024 1:27:25 GMT -5
I'd like to take a bow after the beating I took on the long-term Partain stuff (still the same number of wins as Casey J! LOL) but I had no idea they would be this awful. I didn't think they would be good, but pathetic is a fair assessment now. I think you compared him to Rafu too Rafu was more on his career accomplishments at that point IIRC (or if I remember in the light most favorable to myself).
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 6, 2024 1:29:16 GMT -5
haaaa Been saying it I just didn’t expect him to leave indoor to go full time beach so early but I’m glad he did UCLA indoor wins natty and he’s so close to making the Olympics to represent the US
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 6, 2024 1:34:17 GMT -5
Article seems to suggest that Miles Partain is committed to Andy Benesh. "Miles Partain, the VolleyballMag MVP and AVP’s Best Offensive Player and Most Improved, has already made a firm commitment to Andy Benesh." I think Benesh & Partain are the USA men's beach team of the future. A little early but I think you’re right
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Post by robvolei on Mar 6, 2024 3:57:54 GMT -5
Tri had to make a change since T2 had a long run without accomplishing anything, but its disappointing he had so little imagination. Chaim is basically the same player as Trevor. Neither is a good defender (I'd maybe even put Trevor as marginally better). Both are solid but not elite sideout players. (Maybe Chaim is a little better, especially given that he goes from hitting Theo's sets to Tri's). What other real differences are there? Chaim is more experienced, but thats a marginal difference, both are weak servers and Trevor is a much better setter. Compared to T2 (the times when Tri did all the blocking) this team is: Not better at blocking Not better at defense Not better at serving Worse at setting A little better at siding out How does that take Tri from a non-contender into regular contention? Theo, Partain, either Taylor, even Budinger or maybe Field would have given him more upside, but he opted to get more regular 5th place finishes. Basically he made the optimal decision to finish 13th at the Paris Olympics. Can't wait to see it! your guess wasn’t far off Yeah, yeah. I was a Tri fanboy. Theo's blocking and Trevor's sideout is better than Tri's blocking and Chaim's sideout. I'm not high on Chaim anymore. I think he is on the decline. The race for USA #2 seems to be Theo/Trev vs Chase/Miles.
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 6, 2024 16:27:32 GMT -5
I think Tri/Chaim have a higher ceiling than Tri/Trevor by a decent margin. I don't think Trevor or Theo will do as well with whichever partners they team up with, as they have with their former partners. Tri/Chaim should be the USA's #1 team by a mile. This partnership is kind of like Cheng/Hughes. USA#1 by a mile?!?!? Tri/Chaim by a mile?!? south of the equator the odometer spins in reverse.
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Post by pepperclove on Mar 6, 2024 16:27:51 GMT -5
Tri's switch to Chaim has to be one of the worst cases of misjudging talent in a partnership switch. It's pretty common for players to take a step back in quality of partner if they split up because of personality conflicts (April and Kerri, Cheng and Sponcil being two recent examples), but Tri and Trevor are still great friends so Tri seems to have genuinely thought that the partnership with Chaim would be an on-court improvement. Except Chaim is not very good (by international standards), and the partnership is clearly not working on court in any way.
Is anyone else starting to think Miles Evans is actually better than Chaim right now? Chaim is still a better hitter, but Miles is much better at both defense and setting.
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 6, 2024 16:30:07 GMT -5
Is anyone else starting to think Miles Evans is actually better than Chaim right now? Chaim is still a better hitter, but Miles is much better at both defense and setting. Maybe. They both suffer terribly from playing tight as a drum in crunch time. I'd say they're about equally ineffective. However, even when playing with confidence neither is better than Trevor. Trevor all day long over either if you count in anxiety's effects, and Partain over Trevor by a lot.
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Post by overonone on Mar 6, 2024 16:46:08 GMT -5
Tri's switch to Chaim has to be one of the worst cases of misjudging talent in a partnership switch. It's pretty common for players to take a step back in quality of partner if they split up because of personality conflicts (April and Kerri, Cheng and Sponcil being two recent examples), but Tri and Trevor are still great friends so Tri seems to have genuinely thought that the partnership with Chaim would be an on-court improvement. Except Chaim is not very good (by international standards), and the partnership is clearly not working on court in any way. Is anyone else starting to think Miles Evans is actually better than Chaim right now? Chaim is still a better hitter, but Miles is much better at both defense and setting. Do you think Chaim would be an Olympic contender if he hadn’t changed federations?
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 6, 2024 16:46:27 GMT -5
Tri's switch to Chaim has to be one of the worst cases of misjudging talent in a partnership switch. It's pretty common for players to take a step back in quality of partner if they split up because of personality conflicts (April and Kerri, Cheng and Sponcil being two recent examples), but Tri and Trevor are still great friends so Tri seems to have genuinely thought that the partnership with Chaim would be an on-court improvement. Except Chaim is not very good (by international standards), and the partnership is clearly not working on court in any way. Is anyone else starting to think Miles Evans is actually better than Chaim right now? Chaim is still a better hitter, but Miles is much better at both defense and setting. saw Miles Evans get a block too, I'll give him the edge on blocking
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