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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 30, 2023 14:32:51 GMT -5
Lmao dude. Seriously. Every single law expert would agree Disney won. Now will they continue to win? Idk, Disney was undisputedly the winner in this round. By a LARGE margin |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 30, 2023 14:35:02 GMT -5
Hah, in the grand scheme of Disney, I'm just a little piddling sub-contractor. Anyway, here's the thing about the House of Mouse: behind the happy faces of Mickey and Minnie is a freaking ruthless 800-lb gorilla (and I'm not being complimentary) that has 400 attorneys in-house, and a boatload more on retainer. Disney kneecapped the new board of directors and is going to sit back and let the State of Florida spend millions of dollars trying to unravel the new agreement - if they even can. Disney is not known for leaving open loopholes. Disney might be willing to cut a deal of sorts, we'll see, but right now it's advantage: Mickey. Imo there are very few, if any corporations that can truly go toe to two with the mouse. Everything I’ve read about them is ruthless legality wise. Like they leave not a stone unturned. It’s insane |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Mar 30, 2023 14:35:47 GMT -5
Karma is a Mouse.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 30, 2023 14:43:30 GMT -5
This is all small-town, small-group politics. The board members of this school are apparently not subject to oversight by parents, and basically have 100% control of the school. This is the third principal they have gone through in the school's three-year history. It certainly seems like ol' Barney basically is running the school as his own little empire. If you have ever been a member of a private club or lived in a small town, you will probably have experienced what happens when somebody becomes President or Mayor or whatever and pretty much starts deciding that they have the final say on everything and that anybody who disagrees will just have to lump it. It suddenly becomes all about personality clashes and cliques. But, but, I was reliably informed this is all about "parents' rights!" Also, I did not know about the school churning through principals on a yearly basis. Barney seems a little mercurial. The parents have no control over the board. See their bylaws: tlhclassical.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Final-TCS-Bylaws-Amended-12.14.22-.pdfNew board members are elected only by current board members. Parents have no vote on this. They have three-year terms on the board, but there is no rule against board members voting themselves a new term. So the only way to get voted off the board is if the other board members decide they don't like you anymore. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Mar 30, 2023 14:48:43 GMT -5
Hah, in the grand scheme of Disney, I'm just a little piddling sub-contractor. Anyway, here's the thing about the House of Mouse: behind the happy faces of Mickey and Minnie is a freaking ruthless 800-lb gorilla (and I'm not being complimentary) that has 400 attorneys in-house, and a boatload more on retainer. Disney kneecapped the new board of directors and is going to sit back and let the State of Florida spend millions of dollars trying to unravel the new agreement - if they even can. Disney is not known for leaving open loopholes. Disney might be willing to cut a deal of sorts, we'll see, but right now it's advantage: Mickey. Imo there are very few, if any corporations that can truly go toe to two with the mouse. Everything I’ve read about them is ruthless legality wise. Like they leave not a stone unturned. It’s insane I've been working with Disney for years (independent contractor). I like working with Disney, lots of smart, creative people. However, I'm under no illusions - Disney also has an army of bean counters and sharks in suits looking to eliminate or neuter the competition while maximizing Disney shareholder value. Not to mention a gigantic legal department dedicated to aggressively pursuing and protecting Disney's interests. "The Happiest Place on Earth" can f***ing bury you. I don't think the fight over control of the Florida special district is over (it's gonna cost the State some serious $$, though), but Disney's sucker punch of DeSantis pretty much announced - rather quietly - that the Mouse is willing to go to war. |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Mar 30, 2023 16:09:12 GMT -5
Lmao dude. Seriously. Every single law expert would agree Disney won. Now will they continue to win? Idk, Disney was undisputedly the winner in this round. By a LARGE margin Yep...through sleazy underhanded tactics....Can you guys tell me what happened to the integrity of the Democrat party? Remember they despised the tactics of big business getting special privilege's over other small businesses? Remember those days? Now you applaud the dirty tactics of big business and LOVE THAT THE FACT THEY ARE GETTING SPECIAL PRIVELEGE DON'T YOU? When did Democrats turn into big fat cat Republicans and when did Republicans flip the script and become that party that cared about the rights of the working man and regular families? |
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Post by oldnewbie on Mar 30, 2023 16:30:24 GMT -5
Lmao dude. Seriously. Every single law expert would agree Disney won. Now will they continue to win? Idk, Disney was undisputedly the winner in this round. By a LARGE margin Yep...through sleazy underhanded tactics....Can you guys tell me what happened to the integrity of the Democrat party? Remember they despised the tactics of big business getting special privilege's over other small businesses? Remember those days? Now you applaud the dirty tactics of big business and LOVE THAT THE FACT THEY ARE GETTING SPECIAL PRIVELEGE DON'T YOU? When did Democrats turn into big fat cat Republicans and when did Republicans flip the script and become that party that cared about the rights of the working man and regular families? A) Disney is not part of the Democratic party. B) Disney is in but one of over 1500 special districts that Florida has set up to beg companies to come set up shop. Disney was given special incentives to get them to come, and Florida has reaped a huge return in publicity, tourism and tax dollars. There is a very simple reason why Florida wanted to entice Disney: As the largest single taxpayer in Central Florida, Walt Disney World Resort contributed $1.146 billion in total state and local taxes paid and collected for 2022. C)DeSantis chose to be petty for politics when he started this. There was nothing subtle about his public attacks of Disney, and the retaliatory actions he took against them. D) It doesn't say much for DeSantis that he thought Disney would quietly give in to his extortion, and was not even monitoring meetings open to the public. |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 31, 2023 14:23:11 GMT -5
Lmao dude. Seriously. Every single law expert would agree Disney won. Now will they continue to win? Idk, Disney was undisputedly the winner in this round. By a LARGE margin Yep...through sleazy underhanded tactics....Can you guys tell me what happened to the integrity of the Democrat party? Remember they despised the tactics of big business getting special privilege's over other small businesses? Remember those days? Now you applaud the dirty tactics of big business and LOVE THAT THE FACT THEY ARE GETTING SPECIAL PRIVELEGE DON'T YOU? When did Democrats turn into big fat cat Republicans and when did Republicans flip the script and become that party that cared about the rights of the working man and regular families? You do realize Ron only did this to be petty right? Like no other reason. He didn’t like what Disney did and that they wouldn’t bend to his will and got salty about it. Ron needs Disney more than Disney needs Ron. If Disney somehow up and left Florida’s it would CRIPPLE its economy. From the tax dollars from Disney, to the drastic drop in tourism, etc. |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Mar 31, 2023 14:33:29 GMT -5
Yep...through sleazy underhanded tactics....Can you guys tell me what happened to the integrity of the Democrat party? Remember they despised the tactics of big business getting special privilege's over other small businesses? Remember those days? Now you applaud the dirty tactics of big business and LOVE THAT THE FACT THEY ARE GETTING SPECIAL PRIVELEGE DON'T YOU? When did Democrats turn into big fat cat Republicans and when did Republicans flip the script and become that party that cared about the rights of the working man and regular families? A) Disney is not part of the Democratic party. B) Disney is in but one of over 1500 special districts that Florida has set up to beg companies to come set up shop. Disney was given special incentives to get them to come, and Florida has reaped a huge return in publicity, tourism and tax dollars. There is a very simple reason why Florida wanted to entice Disney: As the largest single taxpayer in Central Florida, Walt Disney World Resort contributed $1.146 billion in total state and local taxes paid and collected for 2022. C)DeSantis chose to be petty for politics when he started this. There was nothing subtle about his public attacks of Disney, and the retaliatory actions he took against them. D) It doesn't say much for DeSantis that he thought Disney would quietly give in to his extortion, and was not even monitoring meetings open to the public. Proof that Democrats are big phonies when it comes to caring about the working men and women and small business. You guys prove me right every single day.WE GET IT.....YOU LOVE DISNEY....WE ALSO GET IT...DURING COVID DID YOU FIGHT FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES? NOPE. CAN YOU PEOPLE EVEN RELATE TO THE WORKING CLASS ANYMORE? |
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Post by moody on Mar 31, 2023 14:45:39 GMT -5
A) Disney is not part of the Democratic party. B) Disney is in but one of over 1500 special districts that Florida has set up to beg companies to come set up shop. Disney was given special incentives to get them to come, and Florida has reaped a huge return in publicity, tourism and tax dollars. There is a very simple reason why Florida wanted to entice Disney: As the largest single taxpayer in Central Florida, Walt Disney World Resort contributed $1.146 billion in total state and local taxes paid and collected for 2022. C)DeSantis chose to be petty for politics when he started this. There was nothing subtle about his public attacks of Disney, and the retaliatory actions he took against them. D) It doesn't say much for DeSantis that he thought Disney would quietly give in to his extortion, and was not even monitoring meetings open to the public. Proof that Democrats are big phonies when it comes to caring about the working men and women and small business. You guys prove me right every single day.WE GET IT.....YOU LOVE DISNEY....WE ALSO GET IT...DURING COVID DID YOU FIGHT FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES? NOPE. CAN YOU PEOPLE EVEN RELATE TO THE WORKING CLASS ANYMORE? you're so delusional. |
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Post by BearClause on Mar 31, 2023 15:42:14 GMT -5
Ron needs Disney more than Disney needs Ron. If Disney somehow up and left Florida’s it would CRIPPLE its economy. From the tax dollars from Disney, to the drastic drop in tourism, etc. DeSantis is term limited. Theoretically he could take a term off and come back, but I don't see that happening. He's looking at this to burnish his credentials to his base, whether it's trying to run for future office (President or Senator) or for whatever jobs he might line up. He's not really looking at any of this long term. He wouldn't need to face any consequences, which would be long after he's gone. And there's a chance that Disney is looking at this with the eye that he's not going to be around forever to try and impose his pettiness. But at the very least there have been some things that have be delayed, such as the move of lots of Disney personnel to Lake Nona, FL. Disney was specifically looking to move the crown jewel (Walt Disney Imagineering) to Florida. But some think it was a deliberate attempt to cut jobs knowing that many wouldn't leave when they owned homes and/or their spouses had jobs in California. A bunch of people quit with the short notice period that Disney gave, while others apparently put in bids on homes in Florida only to back out after Disney put the move on hold (until at least 2026). It does seem rather strange that they'd want to move something like this to Florida when entertainment professionals are located in California. Many of those who left immediately took jobs with other entertainment companies. Being in Florida would suck if someone loses a job since there are few options in the same industry. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Mar 31, 2023 15:57:48 GMT -5
A) Disney is not part of the Democratic party. B) Disney is in but one of over 1500 special districts that Florida has set up to beg companies to come set up shop. Disney was given special incentives to get them to come, and Florida has reaped a huge return in publicity, tourism and tax dollars. There is a very simple reason why Florida wanted to entice Disney: As the largest single taxpayer in Central Florida, Walt Disney World Resort contributed $1.146 billion in total state and local taxes paid and collected for 2022. C)DeSantis chose to be petty for politics when he started this. There was nothing subtle about his public attacks of Disney, and the retaliatory actions he took against them. D) It doesn't say much for DeSantis that he thought Disney would quietly give in to his extortion, and was not even monitoring meetings open to the public. Proof that Democrats are big phonies when it comes to caring about the working men and women and small business. You guys prove me right every single day.WE GET IT.....YOU LOVE DISNEY....WE ALSO GET IT...DURING COVID DID YOU FIGHT FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES? NOPE. CAN YOU PEOPLE EVEN RELATE TO THE WORKING CLASS ANYMORE? What an odd response. A rambling diatribe against "Democrats", that has nothing to do with me, the post you responded to or this thread. Just a canned outburst you could have cut and pasted anywhere. Weird. |
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Post by BearClause on Apr 2, 2023 12:47:13 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 2, 2023 13:08:54 GMT -5
Being in Florida would suck if someone loses a job since there are few options in the same industry. This can be shortened with no loss of accuracy: "Being in Florida would suck." |
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Post by BearClause on Apr 2, 2023 14:44:22 GMT -5
Being in Florida would suck if someone loses a job since there are few options in the same industry. This can be shortened with no loss of accuracy: "Being in Florida would suck." I've been to some parts of Florida - Miami to Key West. Enjoyed the food (Cuban-American food can be spectacular), but yeah it got rather interesting when a storm hit. And the mosquitos. And the alligators. And the drivers. And the home insurance. And the unpredictable property taxes. |
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