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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Apr 22, 2023 17:48:14 GMT -5
for Hawaii, it actually would have been better for them if Long Beach had won Hawaii had, and I still think is possible, to get teh #2 seed by beating Irvine (a much needed away win). Just the RPI, SOS, and quality win boost they could get from beating Beach IMO would have put them in the #2 seed. Playing UCSB is an RPI nightmare, a good team who it who just kills your RPI. assuming all the favorites win, the closest decision will be the #2 seed between Hawaii & Penn St. If Penn State loses, and Beach is in, teh #3 seed will become the really difficult decision for the committee now if Princeton, Stanford, and Irvine win, then yuk, historical yuk....., here's the unthinkable/unfathomable, a NCAA tournament nobody but Stanford, PRinceton, & Irvine & the MIVA want: #1: UCLA #2: Penn State or Hawaii (and hate mail is all over the place on this decision, because a lot of metrics are gonna favor Penn State) #3: Irvine #4: Ball State or Ohio State #5: Stanford #6: PRinceton #7: NOrth Greenville or KIng heck, in that case. GCU, Hawaii, Beach, and BYU could get together and hold a tournament in Vegas and it would be a better tournament than the NCAAs my god, if history repeats itself and Prineton does the unthinkable and then gets ousted again. i'd go ... lol |
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Post by aaronic on Apr 22, 2023 19:34:34 GMT -5
Hawaii about four points closer to receiving an at-large.
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 22, 2023 19:42:00 GMT -5
Hawaii about four points closer to receiving an at-large. And it happened. |
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Post by aaronic on Apr 22, 2023 19:43:25 GMT -5
PSU wins! I would imagine this should be it for Hawaii; regardless of the MPSF Final, Hawaii gets the at-large. LBSU needs to hope for a UCLA win tonight to get the other.
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 22, 2023 19:52:06 GMT -5
PSU wins! I would imagine this should be it for Hawaii; regardless of the MPSF Final, Hawaii gets the at-large. LBSU needs to hope for a UCLA win tonight to get the other. Yes I think that’s a fair statement. The question now would be the seeding of the teams. |
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Post by raian13 on Apr 22, 2023 20:02:25 GMT -5
Hawaii vs PSU at the 2nd/3rd seeds more likely now.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Apr 22, 2023 20:11:58 GMT -5
PSU with the head to head W should get #2
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Post by raian13 on Apr 22, 2023 20:21:31 GMT -5
PSU with the head to head W should get #2 barring any upset Hawaii should have the advantage of top 2 seed. Their worst loss would be Long Beach while PSU’s was OSU. |
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Apr 22, 2023 20:24:44 GMT -5
PSU with the head to head W should get #2 barring any upset Hawaii should have the advantage of top 2 seed. Their worst loss would be Long Beach while PSU’s was OSU. And OSU just won the MIVA |
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Post by Timeless on Apr 22, 2023 20:26:54 GMT -5
PSU with the head to head W should get #2 barring any upset Hawaii should have the advantage of top 2 seed. Their worst loss would be Long Beach while PSU’s was OSU. There is no such thing as the worst loss. PSU has the head-to-head, a higher SOS, and a higher rpi, and basically, every major category favor PSU. |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 22, 2023 20:35:06 GMT -5
Assuming UCLA and Hawaii win, this would be my tournament seeding:
1) UCLA
2) Hawaii
3) Penn State
4) LBSU
5) OSU
6) GCU or BYU ( more likely GCU)
7) King
If both teams lose:
1) UCLA
2) Penn State
3) Hawaii
4) Irvine
5) OSU
6) Stanford
7) King
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Post by aaronic on Apr 22, 2023 20:41:05 GMT -5
Assuming UCLA and Hawaii win, this would be my tournament seeding: 1) UCLA 2) Hawaii 3) Penn State 4) LBSU 5) OSU 6) GCU or BYU ( more likely GCU) 7) King If both teams lose: 1) UCLA 2) Penn State 3) Hawaii 4) Irvine 5) OSU 6) Stanford 7) King This really will have no bearing for the actual seeding after tonight. But, I digress. |
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Post by noblesol on Apr 22, 2023 20:52:27 GMT -5
PSU with the head to head W should get #2 barring any upset Hawaii should have the advantage of top 2 seed. Their worst loss would be Long Beach while PSU’s was OSU. Best win/worse loss isn't a mens volleyball criteria. In seeding the bracket the committee likely has a little more discretion in how they weigh the existing mens selection criteria. Hawai'i has the edge in the absolute number of criteria it owns over PSU. But PSU owns a few of those the committee has shown more weight to when they could in the past, such as H2H, RPI, and SOS. Although the edge in RPI and SOS isn't so far apart as to be particularly meaningful. So, should Hawai'i win over a hot UCI squad on UCI's floor, that might be enough to let the committee dismiss PSUs narrow edge in RPI and SOS. I think that Hawai'i should get the two seed with a win tonight, but it's close enough with PSU that the committee will be able to justify whatever they decide in seeding #2 and #3. |
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Post by raian13 on Apr 22, 2023 21:05:25 GMT -5
barring any upset Hawaii should have the advantage of top 2 seed. Their worst loss would be Long Beach while PSU’s was OSU. And OSU just won the MIVA Them winning did shake things up for the seeding. |
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Post by raian13 on Apr 22, 2023 21:09:47 GMT -5
So I guess:
#1 UCLA
#2 Hawaii (if they win BW) or PSU (If Hawaii loses)
#3 Hawaii or PSU
#4 tOSU
#5 UCI or Beach
#6 UCI or Beach or GCU/BYU
#7 CC champ
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