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Post by luckydawg on Aug 24, 2023 11:28:43 GMT -5
They have few paying fans in the revenue sports and ranked 10 out of 12 in attendance SI.comYou are a Washington fan so I understand but Stanford does not care about attendance for their teams. They have been the top ranked athletic program 26 times. Money from fans does not drive their bus. No disagreement with that, but yet they tried dropping 11 sports because of finances.
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Post by luckydawg on Aug 24, 2023 11:30:56 GMT -5
By definition, using endowment funds for something it was not intended is the definition of violating the terms. Using our $5m Computer Science example, it pays out approx $200,000 per year. Reducing the CS budget by that amount to fund athletics, much less the $5m principle, would not fly with the department, the donor or the university. The best hope to find this kind of money is the president's discretionary fund. That just means a lot of unhappy alumni. It's funny that you repeatedly argue that it can't be done, then finish with an example of how it could be done. The bigger question might be if an outgoing president Resigns is more or less likely to make these kind of long term commitments.
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Post by n00b on Aug 24, 2023 11:31:49 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the SF Chronicle raised it as a possibility, tho they said that all sports going to the ACC was more likely. But IIRC the tweet linking to the article (which some other ppl quoted) made it sound like it would be football and basketball only. I've just never heard of that happening before. Why would the WCC, Big West or Mountain West want to take all those sports with no basketball? I suppose with the WCC or Big West, it wouldn't really add that much in travel. But I still don't really see what they get out of it. I guess if Stanford and Cal agreed to cover the additional travel costs and possibly throw in something extra as a bonus, maybe that could work? I don't know. Yeah. It would be unprecedented. And as others have alluded to, I don't see why the Big West/WCC/Mt West would accept the Olympic sports without basketball.
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Post by baytree on Aug 24, 2023 11:36:57 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the SF Chronicle raised it as a possibility, tho they said that all sports going to the ACC was more likely. But IIRC the tweet linking to the article (which some other ppl quoted) made it sound like it would be football and basketball only. I've just never heard of that happening before. Why would the WCC, Big West or Mountain West want to take all those sports with no basketball? I suppose with the WCC or Big West, it wouldn't really add that much in travel. But I still don't really see what they get out of it. I guess if Stanford and Cal agreed to cover the additional travel costs and possibly throw in something extra as a bonus, maybe that could work? I don't know. I agree. I was trying to explain how that rumor got propagated:
A couple of hours later, he said it might be for all sports. The Chronicle article said: "Though the ACC has explored adding the Bears, Cardinal and SMU just for football, men’s basketball and women’s basketball, a source told The Chronicle on Wednesday evening that the three would likely be brought on for all sports. Is there any way to ease teams’ burden?"
The tweet above got passed around by various parties, including a couple of articles I saw. (I don't remember where.) To me, it was another example of how rumors spread and also how many ppl only read the tweet (or headline), not the whole article.
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Post by leftcoaster71 on Aug 26, 2023 19:28:46 GMT -5
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Aug 26, 2023 19:34:50 GMT -5
*That*...with some sort of a B-12 Western Conference...would make WAY more sense than the ACC. It would also reconnect them with the former P-12 "corner schools" (Utah, CU, Arizona State and UA).
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Post by slxpress on Aug 26, 2023 19:35:40 GMT -5
Honestly, there’s a part of me that finds that a bit funny. I think it could be a good move for the Big 12, as long as Stanford and Cal are willing to forego significant TV revenue to do it. But when Texas and OU announced for the SEC, the idea that would end up with Stanford and Cal joining blows my mind.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 26, 2023 19:36:46 GMT -5
*That*...with some sort of a B-12 Western Conference...would make WAY more sense than the ACC. It would also reconnect them with the former P-12 "corner schools" (Utah, CU, Arizona State and UA). Cal can have the crap beat out of them every year by the football coach they chased off, too. That’s going to feel good.
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 26, 2023 19:37:43 GMT -5
That this would include Oregon State and Washington State - I am not seeing how the Big 12 would have anything to do with this one?
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Post by Xplaya on Aug 26, 2023 19:41:55 GMT -5
*That*...with some sort of a B-12 Western Conference...would make WAY more sense than the ACC. It would also reconnect them with the former P-12 "corner schools" (Utah, CU, Arizona State and UA). Cal can have the crap beat out of them every year by the football coach they chased off, too. That’s going to feel good.
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Post by savannahbadger on Aug 26, 2023 19:42:19 GMT -5
That this would include Oregon State and Washington State - I am not seeing how the Big 12 would have anything to do with this one? Stanford & Cal makes sense. OrSU & WSU do not.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 26, 2023 19:42:33 GMT -5
Cal can have the crap beat out of them every year by the football coach they chased off, too. That’s going to feel good. He’s actually at TCU, so… Yes. Hence the comment.
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Post by Xplaya on Aug 26, 2023 19:44:16 GMT -5
He’s actually at TCU, so… Yes. Hence the comment. Yup, I misunderstood, thought you were talking SMU…well played by you hahaha.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 26, 2023 19:44:53 GMT -5
That this would include Oregon State and Washington State - I am not seeing how the Big 12 would have anything to do with this one? Stanford & Cal makes sense. OrSU & WSU do not. I honestly don't think any of them make sense. I'm doubtful that the TV partners would sign up for two more schools, much less four.
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 26, 2023 19:46:59 GMT -5
Stanford & Cal makes sense. OrSU & WSU do not. I honestly don't think any of them make sense. I'm doubtful that the TV partners would sign up for two more schools, much less four. Also - having spent years with Texas volleyball in conference, I sort of don't want to have to deal with Stanford now that Texas is gone.
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