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Post by StanfordFan on Dec 10, 2023 8:06:23 GMT -5
I’ve always cheered Stanford first and PAC12 second. I’ve been out of the U.S. for a long time now, but went to many USC/UCLA games when I lived in LA. Made a trip to Seattle and went out of my way to visit the gorgeous UW campus. Always wanted to visit AZ and ASU, but never made it there. This feels very sad to me. I know almost nothing about the ACC schools, and no sense of loyalty or affection for the conference. We have now reached the point where the mourners are starting to leave the cemetery and go on with their lives. Despite the sword of Damocles hanging over the entire conference since before this VB season began, some of us had this weird (but somewhat reasonable) hope that the PAC might get 2 or more teams in the finals. Sure, there was Stanford and Oregon, but at one point some of us were looking at WSU, UCLA and then ASU as maybe FF material. But now the Card and the Ducks have exited stage left and, sadly, PAC12 volleyball is something that no longer exists. It was a good run. R.I.P.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 10, 2023 8:16:43 GMT -5
I’ve always cheered Stanford first and PAC12 second. I’ve been out of the U.S. for a long time now, but went to many USC/UCLA games when I lived in LA. Made a trip to Seattle and went out of my way to visit the gorgeous UW campus. Always wanted to visit AZ and ASU, but never made it there. This feels very sad to me. I know almost nothing about the ACC schools, and no sense of loyalty or affection for the conference. Similar experience. UW fan first. PAC second. We'd make trips to the Oregon schools most years (I still miss MAC court) and one trip to NorCal. I still sometimes tell people "I went to Stanford," to see what kind of reaction I get before adding it was just for a volleyball game. As a fan it's very sad. But also disappointing to think that a significant number of very well-educated people couldn't have figured out a better outcome.
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Post by vergyltantor on Dec 10, 2023 8:28:19 GMT -5
This B1G fan is also sad about the passing of the PAC. I have nothing against the members joining the conference but wish they would have stayed in an intact PAC 10/12. To me the PAC has always been a power conference and should have remained so.
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Post by redcard🏐 on Dec 10, 2023 11:00:01 GMT -5
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Dec 16, 2023 3:49:12 GMT -5
"WSU, OSU take control of Pac-12 after momentous court victory vs. UW, other departing schools"
That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 17, 2023 9:57:51 GMT -5
"WSU, OSU take control of Pac-12 after momentous court victory vs. UW, other departing schools" That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind I missed that earlier. The Washington Supreme Court declined to reveal the appeal of the Pac-12 and the 10 departing schools. Oregon State and Washington State now control the conference.
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Dec 17, 2023 11:14:03 GMT -5
So I'm guessing the VB teams they are going to want to schedule from the MWC would be Utah State, CSU, UNLV, Boise, San Jose and San Diego State. This scheduling would be a means to attain good competition(RPI) and/or California market share, assuming they align more with MWC then others. It will also be interesting to see what teams not part of the MWC they lure to a new PAC. BYU maybe, Hawaii? LBS? Exciting times for the PAC now that all the trader heathens have departed.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 17, 2023 11:16:51 GMT -5
So I'm guessing the VB teams they are going to want to schedule from the MWC would be Utah State, CSU, UNLV, Boise, San Jose and San Diego State. This scheduling would be a means to attain good competition(RPI) and/or California market share, assuming they align more with MWC then others. It will also be interesting to see what teams not part of the MWC they lure to a new PAC. BYU maybe, Hawaii? LBS? Exciting times for the PAC now that all the trader heathens have departed. BYU just joined the big 12. They ain’t going anywhere lmao
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Dec 17, 2023 11:19:41 GMT -5
So I'm guessing the VB teams they are going to want to schedule from the MWC would be Utah State, CSU, UNLV, Boise, San Jose and San Diego State. This scheduling would be a means to attain good competition(RPI) and/or California market share, assuming they align more with MWC then others. It will also be interesting to see what teams not part of the MWC they lure to a new PAC. BYU maybe, Hawaii? LBS? Exciting times for the PAC now that all the trader heathens have departed. BYU just joined the big 12. They ain’t going anywhere lmao This isn't something one would expect to happen anytime soon. Within 3 years I see them bringing others into the fold(I believe they have a grace period of 2 years before they need be up to 6 teams (correct me if I'm wrong here). But BYU could be a longer term addition.
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 17, 2023 11:25:49 GMT -5
BYU just joined the big 12. They ain’t going anywhere lmao This isn't something one would expect to happen anytime soon. Within 3 years I see them bringing others into the fold(I believe they have a grace period of 2 years before they need be up to 6 teams (correct me if I'm wrong here). But BYU could be a longer term addition. The Big 12's new TV contract goes through 2030-31. There is zero chance that anyone currently in the Big 12 would join the Pac-12 remnants before then. The reality is that the Pac-2 will almost certainly merge with some or all of the Mountain West in the next few years.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 17, 2023 11:26:15 GMT -5
BYU just joined the big 12. They ain’t going anywhere lmao This isn't something one would expect to happen anytime soon. Within 3 years I see them bringing others into the fold(I believe they have a grace period of 2 years before they need be up to 6 teams (correct me if I'm wrong here). But BYU could be a longer term addition. You think BYU will leave the big 12 in 6 years? A power conference for a conference that may no longer be considered one? Wut?
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Dec 17, 2023 11:27:42 GMT -5
This isn't something one would expect to happen anytime soon. Within 3 years I see them bringing others into the fold(I believe they have a grace period of 2 years before they need be up to 6 teams (correct me if I'm wrong here). But BYU could be a longer term addition. The Big 12's new TV contract goes through 2030-31. There is zero chance that anyone currently in the Big 12 would join the Pac-12 remnants before then. The reality is that the Pac-2 will almost certainly merge with some or all of the Mountain West in the next few years. That's too bad because over 1/2 of BYUs roster comes from west of Utah.
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 17, 2023 11:29:39 GMT -5
The Big 12's new TV contract goes through 2030-31. There is zero chance that anyone currently in the Big 12 would join the Pac-12 remnants before then. The reality is that the Pac-2 will almost certainly merge with some or all of the Mountain West in the next few years. That's too bad because over 1/2 of BYUs roster comes from west of Utah. And it probably still will. Though being in the Big 12 means that BYU will likely get more talent from Texas (e.g. Suli Davis) and elsewhere in the future.
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Dec 17, 2023 11:32:45 GMT -5
This isn't something one would expect to happen anytime soon. Within 3 years I see them bringing others into the fold(I believe they have a grace period of 2 years before they need be up to 6 teams (correct me if I'm wrong here). But BYU could be a longer term addition. You think BYU will leave the big 12 in 6 years? A power conference for a conference that may no longer be considered one? Wut? Most of their recruits come from west of Utah so I'd imagine they would have somewhat of a draw if WSU and OSU can make it lucrative down the road. I can see where schools such as BSU, Hawaii, Gonzaga, Pepperdine, San Jose, BYU, San Diego, depending on sport, could make this a P5 conference. Could take some time but not a long shot by any means. As long you have access to that California recruiting market you're never out of it.
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Dec 17, 2023 11:36:28 GMT -5
That's too bad because over 1/2 of BYUs roster comes from west of Utah. And it probably still will. Though being in the Big 12 means that BYU will likely get more talent from Texas (e.g. Suli Davis) and elsewhere in the future. I can understand a kid wanting to get out of Texas though, not so with the opportunity to play out west. Come now, beaches and scenery of the likes of San Diego, San Jose, Hawaii or Corvallis vs Lubbock, Kansas or ISU...please.
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