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Post by VolleyballFella on Sept 10, 2023 18:18:59 GMT -5
hmmmm.... Pac-12 RPI Week 3 Grades: A+: Cal (3-0): Ok Cal!!!!! Saving the conference because some of these schools are a F*ing disaster...way to not add to it, given the recent history and program drama. Also Texas State on the road is a GREAT win. Washington State (3-0): Big time RPI wins against BYU and Towson...other than 2 sets, they made it look easy. Come on Cougs, take out Baylor and Texas! A: ASU (3-0): Very good wins Stanford (2-0): Acting like a team that wants to be a top seed and not embarrass the conference B: Washington (3-0): Gelling as a team and taking care of business at home when it matters most B-: Oregon (1-1): Very close to being 2-0, and should have won that Minny match. It was on a neutral floor, but still, this was on friendly Pac territory. Oregon State (2-1): I don't expect TOO much from OSU, however, they could have won that last match. Cal Baptist doesn't even sound like a D1 team B: Utah (2-1): We know Utah is in a massive rebuilding year but they were ALMOST 3-0 on the week, losing 22-20 in the first set to UCSB..... that's respectable, in my book. C+: Colorado (1-1): Solid win against Witchita State (which I think will end up being an RPI boost for Colorado once conference play starts), but I think Colorado was good enough to take out Kansas. F: Arizona (0-2): Nobody expected you to beat Wisconsin, but to be swept by Miami FL with two of the set scores being -13 and -17!? Like, WTF, I'm so over Arizona at this point it's not even funny. The PAC is done, and thankfully Washington does not need to be affiliated with this utter mediocrity for the foreseeable future. Good riddance. TBD: UCLA (If they win against Hawaii, A, if they lose, B) USC (If they win against San Diego, B+, if they lose, C) Seems you are grading on some sort of ability curve? Utah gets a better grade after losing to UCSB and beating easier teams than Wichita State, but Colorado gets a lower grade when they lost to a ranked Kansas? I agree that CU should have won that match though. 17 service errors single-handedly did them in.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 10, 2023 18:21:24 GMT -5
hmmmm.... Pac-12 RPI Week 3 Grades: A+: Cal (3-0): Ok Cal!!!!! Saving the conference because some of these schools are a F*ing disaster...way to not add to it, given the recent history and program drama. Also Texas State on the road is a GREAT win. Washington State (3-0): Big time RPI wins against BYU and Towson...other than 2 sets, they made it look easy. Come on Cougs, take out Baylor and Texas! A: ASU (3-0): Very good wins Stanford (2-0): Acting like a team that wants to be a top seed and not embarrass the conference B: Washington (3-0): Gelling as a team and taking care of business at home when it matters most B-: Oregon (1-1): Very close to being 2-0, and should have won that Minny match. It was on a neutral floor, but still, this was on friendly Pac territory. Oregon State (2-1): I don't expect TOO much from OSU, however, they could have won that last match. Cal Baptist doesn't even sound like a D1 team B: Utah (2-1): We know Utah is in a massive rebuilding year but they were ALMOST 3-0 on the week, losing 22-20 in the first set to UCSB..... that's respectable, in my book. C+: Colorado (1-1): Solid win against Witchita State (which I think will end up being an RPI boost for Colorado once conference play starts), but I think Colorado was good enough to take out Kansas. F: Arizona (0-2): Nobody expected you to beat Wisconsin, but to be swept by Miami FL with two of the set scores being -13 and -17!? Like, WTF, I'm so over Arizona at this point it's not even funny. The PAC is done, and thankfully Washington does not need to be affiliated with this utter mediocrity for the foreseeable future. Good riddance. TBD: UCLA (If they win against Hawaii, A, if they lose, B) USC (If they win against San Diego, B+, if they lose, C) Seems you are grading on some sort of ability curve? Utah gets a better grade after losing to UCSB and beating easier teams than Wichita State, but Colorado gets a lower grade when they lost to a ranked Kansas? I agree that CU should have won that match though. 17 service errors single-handedly did them in. Right, it's about expectations relative to results (IMO). Colorado is in the same tier as Kanas (at large NCAA team quality) whereas I don't expect much from Utah, so when they give us results like they did this weekend, it means more.
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Post by JJVb on Sept 10, 2023 19:07:41 GMT -5
Seems you are grading on some sort of ability curve? Utah gets a better grade after losing to UCSB and beating easier teams than Wichita State, but Colorado gets a lower grade when they lost to a ranked Kansas? I agree that CU should have won that match though. 17 service errors single-handedly did them in. Right, it's about expectations relative to results (IMO). Colorado is in the same tier as Kanas (at large NCAA team quality) whereas I don't expect much from Utah, so when they give us results like they did this weekend, it means more. USC wins. They seem to be improving after their first few matches. I'm hoping for a UCLA win. They have been more consistent than Hawaii, who can be very up and down. I'd give COL a B. Oregon St I think was gassed by their 3rd match with in less than 48 hours, whereas Cal Baptist were fresh after only having played one by that point, but any other day they should have won. They are trending better than anticipated, but have lost a couple 5 setters they could have won. I'm looking forward to CAL and ASU being tested more to see where their level really is, but they are on great winning streaks building confidence.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 11, 2023 10:42:01 GMT -5
USC and Arizona can get a last Pac season pardon for their abysmal non-conference performance by going undefeated in week 4.
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Post by baytree on Sept 11, 2023 16:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by hammer on Sept 11, 2023 17:02:19 GMT -5
Will Maggie Li run the table in the FOW voting? I'm sort of kidding, but there really isn't that much competition.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Sept 11, 2023 17:10:28 GMT -5
Will Maggie Li run the table in the FOW voting? I'm sort of kidding, but there really isn't that much competition. if one of the Washington middles has a good week and Li had a slight dropoff, I’m sure they’ll be inclined to throw someone else a bone. especially in a week where cal might go 0-2 and Washington can beat like utah and colorado
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 14, 2023 18:36:00 GMT -5
USC is currently in a 5th set with Illinois....they are flirting with the point of absolute NO return.
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Post by JJVb on Sept 14, 2023 22:46:55 GMT -5
PAC 3-3 for the day. Need Washington to finish off Cal Poly, so it ends up 4-3. OSU got swept by Portland State, CU lost in 5 to CSU, and AZ was swept by LBSU. Oregon and USC won tight 5 setters vs. Pitt and Ill, and ASU got a sweep earlier in the day over Memphis. Yesterday we went 1-1 with WSU getting a quality win over Baylor and Utah going down in 4 to BYU.
Edit: Washington sneaks past Cal Poly in 5, so PAC goes 4-3 on the day.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 15, 2023 2:29:01 GMT -5
Arizona is so canceled. Colorado...ugh.
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Post by BeiBei on Sept 15, 2023 7:55:07 GMT -5
Arizona is so canceled. Colorado...ugh. Stubbs is a joke. Terrible at NC State and now at Arizona
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Post by uofaGRAD on Sept 15, 2023 8:17:49 GMT -5
Arizona is so canceled. Colorado...ugh. Stubbs is a joke. Terrible at NC State and now at Arizona Arizona lost their ball control outside, three year setter, four year libero, and five year middle. did you really expect the 1.6 passing Jordan Wilson to save things? Becca Morse was supposed to help with the transition but decided to quit in the off-season. I think every coach in the nation deserves more than ONE SEASON. she quite literally recruited the #1 recruit in the 2024 class for us.
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Post by dawgnerd on Sept 15, 2023 8:43:54 GMT -5
Will Maggie Li run the table in the FOW voting? I'm sort of kidding, but there really isn't that much competition. if one of the Washington middles has a good week and Li had a slight dropoff, I’m sure they’ll be inclined to throw someone else a bone. especially in a week where cal might go 0-2 and Washington can beat like utah and colorado Kierstyn Barton put her name in the hat for FOW with a breakout match against Cal Poly - 26 kills hitting .436 at OH. Fingers crossed for how the remainder of the week goes. A quick developing true freshman OH is a piece that UW could really use after losing Emoni Bush to injury.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 15, 2023 13:16:10 GMT -5
Stubbs is a joke. Terrible at NC State and now at Arizona Arizona lost their ball control outside, three year setter, four year libero, and five year middle. did you really expect the 1.6 passing Jordan Wilson to save things? Becca Morse was supposed to help with the transition but decided to quit in the off-season. I think every coach in the nation deserves more than ONE SEASON. she quite literally recruited the #1 recruit in the 2024 class for us. I'm sorry but this just sounds like excuses. Nobody expected Arizona to be Nebraska out there, but given what they DID return, including a setter who already was with the program for years, plenty of pin hitters (including a big time transfer in Jordan Wilson, who was also a top ranked recruit), and an army of DS's, to be 3-6 is awful. They weren't even competitive against Miami and LBSU.... beaten by UC Davis, I mean come on....they have been pathetic. It's not like Rita was walking into a brand new program, she was promoted from within, so lets not also use the coaching transition as an excuse. And what does it matter if she is recruiting high ranking players (and, no, Cisneros is not the #1 recruit in the country) if those players don't translate to wins!? Arizona has been downright mediocre for YEARS, with Stubbs sitting there on the coaching staff. We all thought it was Rubio to blame, but perhaps there is just something more systemic than him for why Arizona can't ever seem to scrape together a solid season.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 15, 2023 13:41:50 GMT -5
Arizona lost their ball control outside, three year setter, four year libero, and five year middle. did you really expect the 1.6 passing Jordan Wilson to save things? Becca Morse was supposed to help with the transition but decided to quit in the off-season. I think every coach in the nation deserves more than ONE SEASON. she quite literally recruited the #1 recruit in the 2024 class for us. I'm sorry but this just sounds like excuses. Nobody expected Arizona to be Nebraska out there, but given what they DID return, including a setter who already was with the program for years, plenty of pin hitters (including a big time transfer in Jordan Wilson, who was also a top ranked recruit), and an army of DS's, to be 3-6 is awful. They weren't even competitive against Miami and LBSU.... beaten by UC Davis, I mean come on....they have been pathetic. It's not like Rita was walking into a brand new program, she was promoted from within, so lets not also use the coaching transition as an excuse. And what does it matter if she is recruiting high ranking players (and, no, Cisneros is not the #1 recruit in the country) if those players don't translate to wins!? Arizona has been downright mediocre for YEARS, with Stubbs sitting there on the coaching staff. We all thought it was Rubio to blame, but perhaps there is just something more systemic than him for why Arizona can't ever seem to scrape together a solid season. Reading some of the quotes in this article from yesterday - www.azdesertswarm.com/volleyball/2023/9/14/23874554/arizona-volleyball-has-same-old-problems-loss-serve-receive-defense-lbsu-stats-recap - kind of sheds light on the systemic problems.
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