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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 28, 2023 14:31:53 GMT -5
It wasn’t Micha’s fault that JT struggled in the first, JT just doesn’t always show up and I think we’ve seen that with every setter she’s had. It’s nice to have a backup like Drews who’s more steady but the Olympics/the Serie A final this year indicate that JT does show up when it matters. Y’all’s obsession with running the middle is because your favorite players are middles. The Texas and Wisconsin fans on here are exhausting. It really doesn’t matter who our middles are, we have a bunch of elite middles and won an Olympic gold with our best middle on the bench. Nope. Obsession with middle is our outside are not Gabi. Cook is baaad when she's not isolated. Frantti stepped in today but isn't always lights out. We need diversity to make that offense work..unless JT or Annie is on. |
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Post by northwoods on Jun 28, 2023 14:31:53 GMT -5
I would direct you to US down 18-20 in the 3rd set, when Dana blocked Stysiak back-back to bring them even (and sending Maggie to the bench to sort out her life)…. And 14-14 in the 5th where Dana perfectly timed her attack on an over-pass to bring on match point & trigger Lavarini. (That ball was fully1/2 over the net if you stop the replay at the point of attack. You can propagandize on your agenda all you want, but even KRob singled out the consistency of block touches from the middle as the key to the game in her post match interview. Dana's great at blocking when she doesn't have to move. That's the beauty of being 6' 8". She did block Styssiak twice in a row, on sets that were obviously going to her and didn't require Rettke to close the block. Same goes for the over-pass--Rettke didn't have to move or close a block on that one either. As far as Kelsey's comment, if you're 6' 8" and getting mostly block touches, it just re-enforces that you're late to closing the block. As far as my "agenda", I'm not crazy about either middle. I also don't think there's any way O'Neal is ahead of either of these two at this point in time. I would offer that if you are getting the consistent well placed block touches that Krob was praising as easy to play around, especially against a team the caliber & size of Poland, you are moving latterly much better than you give Dana credit for. |
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 28, 2023 14:42:30 GMT -5
Dana's great at blocking when she doesn't have to move. That's the beauty of being 6' 8". She did block Styssiak twice in a row, on sets that were obviously going to her and didn't require Rettke to close the block. Same goes for the over-pass--Rettke didn't have to move or close a block on that one either. As far as Kelsey's comment, if you're 6' 8" and getting mostly block touches, it just re-enforces that you're late to closing the block. As far as my "agenda", I'm not crazy about either middle. I also don't think there's any way O'Neal is ahead of either of these two at this point in time. I would offer that if you are getting the consistent well placed block touches that Krob was praising as easy to play around, especially against a team the caliber & size of Poland, you are moving latterly much better than you give Dana credit for. Kelsey didn't say Rettke's name specifically, did she, nor did she use the terms consistently well placed block touches. |
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Post by liberovb10 on Jun 28, 2023 14:48:12 GMT -5
probably one of the most exciting highlight replays i’ve seen from this team….this team has been so solid against adversity. Micah looks smoother than ever, and i hope she keeps building on this heading into Paris! I know Hancock has her detractors on this board, but you gotta give her credit in that she's playing very well this tournament in (I think?) her first summer with the full reigns to the offense. I can see why KK likes her - sure the setting isn't always pretty nor perfect, but I think she's shown some tremendous poise and leadership in the tougher matches (Serbia, Turkey, Brazil, Poland), and that's translated over to some of the newer US players like Lanier, Skinner, and O'Neal playing well. The setting race for Paris is going to be very exciting! The US is very lucky to have three quality setters (when healthy) in their program. 100% and i’m not restarting the Hancock vs. Carlini vs. Poulter argument haha….but the way Micah has been playing this tournament is pretty dang impressive. I rewatched the replay on YouTube and was laughing at the very low back to back swings KCook had into the block at the end of set one. Can’t wait to see LC run the offense and see how she’s improved/progressed after this past italian season. |
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Jun 28, 2023 14:48:54 GMT -5
It wasn’t Micha’s fault that JT struggled in the first, JT just doesn’t always show up and I think we’ve seen that with every setter she’s had. It’s nice to have a backup like Drews who’s more steady but the Olympics/the Serie A final this year indicate that JT does show up when it matters. Y’all’s obsession with running the middle is because your favorite players are middles. The Texas and Wisconsin fans on here are exhausting. It really doesn’t matter who our middles are, we have a bunch of elite middles and won an Olympic gold with our best middle on the bench. Nope. Obsession with middle is our outside are not Gabi. Cook is baaad when she's not isolated. Frantti stepped in today but isn't always lights out. We need diversity to make that offense work..unless JT or Annie is on. You missed the point entirely. There’s just not as much difference between our middles and middles don’t win games at this level, which is something college fans don’t understand. Even the Brazil golds with Fofao setting and Jacque on a pin channeled offense through the pins. What matters is figuring out who of Skinner/Lanier/Frantti/Bajema/Plummer should start in Paris opposite Cook/Larson. |
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Post by basil on Jun 28, 2023 15:27:45 GMT -5
USA having 29 positive block touches vs 15 for Poland is wild. Hancock had 8 by herself... I wonder what they (both USA and Poland) hit in transition.. jwvolley is that a VM stat? .230 for US, .264 for Poland Korneluk and Stysiak in particular torched us, Rozanski was better in transition than she was on first balls lol |
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Post by naujack85 on Jun 28, 2023 15:34:11 GMT -5
It wasn’t Micha’s fault that JT struggled in the first, JT just doesn’t always show up and I think we’ve seen that with every setter she’s had. It’s nice to have a backup like Drews who’s more steady but the Olympics/the Serie A final this year indicate that JT does show up when it matters. Y’all’s obsession with running the middle is because your favorite players are middles. The Texas and Wisconsin fans on here are exhausting. It really doesn’t matter who our middles are, we have a bunch of elite middles and won an Olympic gold with our best middle on the bench. You must not watch much volleyball if you think Annie is steadier than JT. Annie has been hot and cold for years. JT has had some injury struggles but has been much more solid overall. Connecting with her is critical for our Olympic chances |
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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 28, 2023 17:14:50 GMT -5
Nope. Obsession with middle is our outside are not Gabi. Cook is baaad when she's not isolated. Frantti stepped in today but isn't always lights out. We need diversity to make that offense work..unless JT or Annie is on. You missed the point entirely. There’s just not as much difference between our middles and middles don’t win games at this level, which is something college fans don’t understand. Even the Brazil golds with Fofao setting and Jacque on a pin channeled offense through the pins. What matters is figuring out who of Skinner/Lanier/Frantti/Bajema/Plummer should start in Paris opposite Cook/Larson. I think you missed my point. I get middles don't win matches at this level. Our outside/pins are relatively weak/streaky but for JT (without Micha when healthy) and they are the ones to win games. Hence my point that we need some middle presence to free up our serviceable OHs. Edit: Our outsides are good....I don't want everyone jumping on me. Larson in her prime was great. But we are not a OH-reliant team when Beijema and Frantti go hot and cold , Lanier has passing woes and Cook can't put an in-system ball away consistently. We have lots of talent at the position but none outside of Larson are complete packages. Guess that means we need to have a diverse and faster offense that gives us more space. |
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Post by werka on Jun 28, 2023 17:57:42 GMT -5
When JT struggles, it’s a connection issue.
When Annie struggles, she’s inconsistent.
The way Drews gets treated here time and time again even when she’s been bailing JT out for years is wild.
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Post by bayarea on Jun 28, 2023 18:00:05 GMT -5
okay what was Donna looking at she didn't even jump Between you calling her Donna and the announcer calling her Rettka, I am going to scream. Her name is DANA RETTKE It is a German name, and the German pronunciation is Rett-keh (and 'Donna'), so not too hard to figure out why announcers in other parts of the world would pronounce her entire name Donna Rettka. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 28, 2023 18:22:51 GMT -5
I just to remind you all that it is still Pride Month and all your negative comments about Annie are clearly homophobic attacks against me. I will be alerting the proper authorities.  |
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Post by widdledumpling on Jun 28, 2023 18:29:58 GMT -5
I just to remind you all that it is still Pride Month and all your negative comments about Annie are clearly homophobic attacks against me. I will be alerting the proper authorities. she reminds me of Emily Londot. Nothing but the hardest most confident swings at absolute garbage |
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 28, 2023 18:32:53 GMT -5
I just to remind you all that it is still Pride Month and all your negative comments about Annie are clearly homophobic attacks against me. I will be alerting the proper authorities. she reminds me of Emily Londot. Nothing but the hardest most confident swings at absolute garbage They've never met a block they didn't love (to hit into) 😭😭😭 |
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Post by yupyupyup on Jun 28, 2023 22:59:08 GMT -5
Neither Drews or JT were good today. It seemed Drews got either stuffed or blocked half the time. JT struggling today was not a setter issue. She just came out flat that all players do. I think if she were to stay throughout the match she would have figured it out and been fine.
What I don’t understand is Kelsey getting so many hitting attempts.
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Post by ineedajob on Jun 29, 2023 1:02:30 GMT -5
What I don’t understand is Kelsey getting so many hitting attempts. It was mostly about matchups. When Wenerska was part of the block, Robinson-Cook hit .458 on 24 attempts. When Wenerska wasn't part of the block, she hit -.100 on 20 attempts. (I didn't count two of the attacks that VM credited her for - the attack where Rettke set her 5ft outside the court and she was just trying to save it, and another one that she tipped while standing on the ground). |
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