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USC 2024
Jul 1, 2023 12:58:40 GMT -5
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Post by Fight On! on Jul 1, 2023 12:58:40 GMT -5
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Post by soljah808 on Jul 1, 2023 18:01:27 GMT -5
With all due respect, if Nygard can't make success out of the next two classes coming in then he needs to go frl. He should've been gone a long time ago tbh but we see what happens. |
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Post by Timeless on Jul 1, 2023 18:17:15 GMT -5
Crazy to think that USC might have the #1 recruit for the 2025 season as well. If they are not hovering around in the top 5-10 then clearly there is something wrong with the coaching staff (if it wasn't obvious already).
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Post by Fight On! on Jul 1, 2023 19:30:13 GMT -5
With all due respect, if Nygard can't make success out of the next two classes coming in then he needs to go frl. He should've been gone a long time ago tbh but we see what happens. F Nygaard. He is terrible. Hire me! |
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Post by gobruins on Jul 2, 2023 4:27:17 GMT -5
He is not going to have Andrew Rowan setting him when he gets to USC. |
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Post by Fight On! on Jul 2, 2023 12:00:49 GMT -5
He is not going to have Andrew Rowan setting him when he gets to USC. Go back to Westwood! Hmph. Lol |
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Post by soljah808 on Jul 2, 2023 14:46:11 GMT -5
With all due respect, if Nygard can't make success out of the next two classes coming in then he needs to go frl. He should've been gone a long time ago tbh but we see what happens. F Nygaard. He is terrible. Hire me! He got Sterling Foley and all these super top and talented recruits signing on when its obvious it's not the coaching staff that many of these guys are committing to USC. If he cant help them sustain at least top 5 or even compete for a title in the next few years then he needs to be booted asap! |
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Post by babybacksets on Jul 2, 2023 20:05:22 GMT -5
F Nygaard. He is terrible. Hire me! He got Sterling Foley and all these super top and talented recruits signing on when its obvious it's not the coaching staff that many of these guys are committing to USC. If he cant help them sustain at least top 5 or even compete for a title in the next few years then he needs to be booted asap! I’m curious, what are the specifics that Nygaard is doing or not doing that is why he “needs to go” or “should have been gone”? Throughout this website I see a ton of coach-bashing but not a ton of specifics as to why they deserve it… |
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Post by viperton on Jul 7, 2023 4:09:28 GMT -5
He got Sterling Foley and all these super top and talented recruits signing on when its obvious it's not the coaching staff that many of these guys are committing to USC. If he cant help them sustain at least top 5 or even compete for a title in the next few years then he needs to be booted asap! I’m curious, what are the specifics that Nygaard is doing or not doing that is why he “needs to go” or “should have been gone”? Throughout this website I see a ton of coach-bashing but not a ton of specifics as to why they deserve it… if you follow usc mvball it is obvious. They get talented recruits, top of the recruiting class, literal #1’s and they end up never competing for a championship. They have had SO MANY rosters under Nygaard that are talented as hell but has done nothing. Players rarely develop and it’s all cus of nygaard. He isn’t doing anything. Always rooting for usc and I always wish the best for the players but nygaard needs to go |
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USC 2024
Jul 7, 2023 5:58:57 GMT -5
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Post by babybacksets on Jul 7, 2023 5:58:57 GMT -5
I’m curious, what are the specifics that Nygaard is doing or not doing that is why he “needs to go” or “should have been gone”? Throughout this website I see a ton of coach-bashing but not a ton of specifics as to why they deserve it… if you follow usc mvball it is obvious. They get talented recruits, top of the recruiting class, literal #1’s and they end up never competing for a championship. They have had SO MANY rosters under Nygaard that are talented as hell but has done nothing. Players rarely develop and it’s all cus of nygaard. He isn’t doing anything. Always rooting for usc and I always wish the best for the players but nygaard needs to go Ehh, not convinced but ok |
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Post by strikestwice on Jul 7, 2023 9:57:48 GMT -5
I think what people are trying to get at is that with the resources that USC has, along with a tradition of being a pretty successful program, they have not reached that potential under Nygaard.
During Fergies 9 years at USC, they won the league twice, lost in the NCAA Finals twice and in the Final Four once.
Since Nygaard has been there 8 seasons they finished 2nd in the league once and third once, and lost in the play in round in 2019.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jul 7, 2023 10:24:57 GMT -5
Stanford was the last west coast private school to play in an NCAA final in 2014, then 2010 before that
I think teh rise of Beach, Hawaii, Irvine, and re-rise of UCLA has a lot to do with the ability to get depth of talent due to schollie limit and tuition cost differentials. one could argue it's the coaching, given the coaches at those four schools. the difference in $30-35k a year vs. $65k a year (or whatever it is now for privates) is substantial. even if you get 3 top guys with full schollies, you are left with 1.5 to doll out, it's tough to manage that equation. maybe NIL will help the private schools, albeit MVB might be down the food chain in NIL. at UCLA or Beach, you could give 9 guys 1/2 schollies and they'd be on the hook for 'only' $15k a year maybe. it's a considiration, not every volleyball player comes from wealth
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Post by gtrich on Jul 7, 2023 10:54:26 GMT -5
even if you get 3 top guys with full schollies, you are left with 1.5 to doll out, it's tough to manage that equation. Excellent point and I think this is something people miss. Assuming they are fully funded, the D1 coaches have 4.5 scholarship's for the entire roster. So in the case of USC, lets say he gives a full scholarship to Foley and Blanchette. I know there are another 2 or 3 top 2024 recruits going to USC, but I can't think of their names off the top of my head. Whose existing scholarship did he just take from the other 20 kids on the team. Maybe Korbine's if he was on scholarship?. Assuming he has one, does Klein keep his scholarship? If he does, now you have 3 of your 4.5 tied up for the next 3-4 years. How about any of the other current starters/recruits (23's, 22's, 21's)? What happens in 25? Are you going to take Blanchett/Foley/Klein's scholarship and give it to the hot new 25 recruit? It's quite the pickle and I'm glad I'm not the one that has to deal with it. And if you think USC has it bad, how about Hawaii? There's a reason so many of the 2023 Hawaii comitt's moved to Hawaii for the senior year in high school. Hanging out with the Hawaii coaches/players/clubs during their senior year in HS is nice, but getting in-state tuition is the bigger factor. |
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Post by Volleyfan024 on Jul 7, 2023 11:00:59 GMT -5
Stanford was the last west coast private school to play in an NCAA final in 2014, then 2010 before that I think teh rise of Beach, Hawaii, Irvine, and re-rise of UCLA has a lot to do with the ability to get depth of talent due to schollie limit and tuition cost differentials. one could argue it's the coaching, given the coaches at those four schools. the difference in $30-35k a year vs. $65k a year (or whatever it is now for privates) is substantial. even if you get 3 top guys with full schollies, you are left with 1.5 to doll out, it's tough to manage that equation. maybe NIL will help the private schools, albeit MVB might be down the food chain in NIL. at UCLA or Beach, you could give 9 guys 1/2 schollies and they'd be on the hook for 'only' $15k a year maybe. it's a considiration, not every volleyball player comes from wealth I would be very curious how many players in top conferences are receiving full rides. My guess is less than 4 between the Big West and MPSF. Coaches spread that money around as best they can. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jul 7, 2023 11:18:17 GMT -5
Stanford was the last west coast private school to play in an NCAA final in 2014, then 2010 before that I think teh rise of Beach, Hawaii, Irvine, and re-rise of UCLA has a lot to do with the ability to get depth of talent due to schollie limit and tuition cost differentials. one could argue it's the coaching, given the coaches at those four schools. the difference in $30-35k a year vs. $65k a year (or whatever it is now for privates) is substantial. even if you get 3 top guys with full schollies, you are left with 1.5 to doll out, it's tough to manage that equation. maybe NIL will help the private schools, albeit MVB might be down the food chain in NIL. at UCLA or Beach, you could give 9 guys 1/2 schollies and they'd be on the hook for 'only' $15k a year maybe. it's a considiration, not every volleyball player comes from wealth I would be very curious how many players in top conferences are receiving full rides. My guess is less than 4 between the Big West and MPSF. Coaches spread that money around as best they can. I'd agree I think full-rides are a rarity. maybe some 3/4 for top talent. have to believe coaches are trying to keep 10 players maybe more getting schollie money. also probably not a great thing for chemistry if you had 3-4 guys getting full rides playing with a bunch of walk-ons, who if they have talent are likely to bolt for a program that'll save them thousands on their degree. |
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