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Post by Cmd12 on Jul 16, 2023 12:12:03 GMT -5
I wonder how much damage Frantti would have done if she had started 12 kills in two sets is promising. sigh.
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Post by vballspectator on Jul 16, 2023 12:14:19 GMT -5
Was Micha really not a setter until she went to college? That's surprising. Usually you see it in the reverse, "tall" setters move to other positions
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Post by vballspectator on Jul 16, 2023 12:14:56 GMT -5
I wonder how much damage Frantti would have done if she had started 12 kills in two sets is promising. sigh. why Frantti didn't start the match is the biggest question mark. Should've been her and Lanier as the OHs
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 16, 2023 12:17:01 GMT -5
You have quickly become one of the most annoying users on this site. Plenty of people commented on JWO’s subpar performance yesterday, you’re just making stuff up and babbling. So name calling is called abuse in these days and can be something that could fall under harassment, the comments on JWO were subpar compared to Cook and others, how do you beat up on team that lost to a stellar team that has everything the USA does not have, they are not going to always win and will be challenged... stop cyber bullyingLmfao
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Post by volleyguy on Jul 16, 2023 12:17:58 GMT -5
You have quickly become one of the most annoying users on this site. Plenty of people commented on JWO’s subpar performance yesterday, you’re just making stuff up and babbling. So name calling is called abuse in these days and can be something that could fall under harassment, the comments on JWO were subpar compared to Cook and others, how do you beat up on team that lost to a stellar team that has everything the USA does not have, they are not going to always win and will be challenged...stop cyber bullying If you think that was cyber bullying, can’t wait til you meet the Mod.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 12:19:07 GMT -5
Despite how bad we played, we had a chance in that 4th set. IMO, what that means to me is that it falls squarely on coaching. At what point, when you have an OPP that has as many errors as kills do you leave her in. Not only that, but shows she was a liability on defense. And then to sub her out late in the 4th set? I mean, why not earlier? Clearly if JT is able and ready to play, she should've been subbed in sooner. And if she's not healthy, we have a huge roster, changes can be made pre-finals. Further, you have a setter that is having a realistically terrible match. And you have Carlini on the bench, she should've been subbed in. Sure, maybe she's injured, but then why is she taking up a roster spot? How many other setters are there? Poulter maybe? There has to be options. We became completely 1 dimensional to the OH's. We had nothing else. We need to also add some versatility to the offense. It's been suggested Plummer to OPP, since she can be a liability on passing. Hell, we saw Speraw do that with DeFalco one match to roll the dice and dude was phenomenal. I think we can all respect the thinking outside the box. And yeah, Plummer wasn't there, well, there's other OH's out there you can try. KCook could've done it, but never got off the bench... Further, this is in the USA. You wanna put your best team out there. Put our best on display. Show the US audience what the top level of the sport is like to help promote the game, promote the future pro-league and to give it a good kickstart. Show what real volleyball looks like. Instead, we can't serve tough. Micha is reined in on her jump serve, float after float after float that was dimed consistently. Sorry for the rant, but so disappointed in this match that was winnable and coaching, IMO, is what lost it for us. I agree. You just said it more eloquently than I did. I'm ready for Karch to retire. I'm so tired of watching him do literally nothing in timeouts and doing little to elevate this team. Yes the team won Gold in Tokyo, but that OG's saw some of the lowest level of play I think I have seen at an Olympics, maybe ever. That gold medal hangover is real and quite potent right now. Teams definitely smell blood in the water. The team played well in Tokyo but nothing about this returning group of players is showing me that they have the mental fortitude it takes to be champions. Larson, MBH and Akinradewo appear to be who won us that Gold Medal. I estimated that this is going to be a rebuilding olympic cycle with the goal being LA 2028. I just think that most of our returning olympians have been streaky at best, which isn't great. I don't mind the team losing, as long as lessons are learned and changes are made. I've said it before and i'll say it again. Having such a deep pool of players is both a blessing and a curse. There are just SOOOO many questions surrounding this team rn and that isn't great, heading into the Olympics a little more than a year away.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 16, 2023 12:19:36 GMT -5
nahhh i think you do have to start KRook, especially against Turkey and their service pressure. it just didn’t work out. I won’t blame Karch for that one. I was hoping she could keep us in system more but neither her nor JWO passed particularly well
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Post by vballspectator on Jul 16, 2023 12:22:13 GMT -5
nahhh i think you do have to start KRook, especially against Turkey and their service pressure. it just didn’t work out. I won’t blame Karch for that one. I was hoping she could keep us in system more but neither her nor JWO passed particularly well Kcook is a better passer, true, maybe Frantti shouldn't have started but she def should've been brought in a lot sooner
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Post by superfan1 on Jul 16, 2023 12:23:57 GMT -5
nahhh i think you do have to start KRook, especially against Turkey and their service pressure. it just didn’t work out. I won’t blame Karch for that one. I was hoping she could keep us in system more but neither her nor JWO passed particularly well Agreed, I think he just waited too long to pull her
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 16, 2023 12:24:14 GMT -5
nahhh i think you do have to start KRook, especially against Turkey and their service pressure. it just didn’t work out. I won’t blame Karch for that one. I was hoping she could keep us in system more but neither her nor JWO passed particularly well Kcook is a better passer, true, maybe Frantti shouldn't have started but she def should've been brought in a lot sooner I wouldn’t have minded rolling out KRook and Frantti, then moving to Lanier for KRook after her initial struggles
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Post by yupyupyup on Jul 16, 2023 12:31:31 GMT -5
I still think people are being way over dramatic from yesterday’s match. There wasn’t a single thing US did yesterday that was at least their average level. Most notably, zero service pressure. You can’t beat a team when the other team is consistently in system. I don’t know passing stats, but Turkey was in system a lot, with hitters like Vargas and Karakurt. Along with inconsistent passing, poor setting, no middle involvement, horrible tip coverage especially right back, etc etc. All that said, US almost pushed a 5th set against an over performing Turkey team that played lights out most of the match.
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Post by superfan1 on Jul 16, 2023 12:32:06 GMT -5
Random reflections:
I think last night's match is what our Olympics could have been had we not been lucky. Roster management continues to be one of KK's biggest weaknesses. He has to stop taking players if they aren't fit to play and use the substitutions he has available. Micha has been great this whole tournament until that match and I hope it'll be a good lesson for her. As a program we HAVE to use the middles with the players we have in that position. Hoping to see this team get healthy and gel a bit more moving forward. Really happy with a lot of our newbies' play.
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Post by huskyvolley on Jul 16, 2023 12:33:53 GMT -5
I might have missed it. Do you have stats for the match?
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Post by superfan1 on Jul 16, 2023 12:34:05 GMT -5
Despite how bad we played, we had a chance in that 4th set. IMO, what that means to me is that it falls squarely on coaching. At what point, when you have an OPP that has as many errors as kills do you leave her in. Not only that, but shows she was a liability on defense. And then to sub her out late in the 4th set? I mean, why not earlier? Clearly if JT is able and ready to play, she should've been subbed in sooner. And if she's not healthy, we have a huge roster, changes can be made pre-finals. Further, you have a setter that is having a realistically terrible match. And you have Carlini on the bench, she should've been subbed in. Sure, maybe she's injured, but then why is she taking up a roster spot? How many other setters are there? Poulter maybe? There has to be options. We became completely 1 dimensional to the OH's. We had nothing else. We need to also add some versatility to the offense. It's been suggested Plummer to OPP, since she can be a liability on passing. Hell, we saw Speraw do that with DeFalco one match to roll the dice and dude was phenomenal. I think we can all respect the thinking outside the box. And yeah, Plummer wasn't there, well, there's other OH's out there you can try. KCook could've done it, but never got off the bench... Further, this is in the USA. You wanna put your best team out there. Put our best on display. Show the US audience what the top level of the sport is like to help promote the game, promote the future pro-league and to give it a good kickstart. Show what real volleyball looks like. Instead, we can't serve tough. Micha is reined in on her jump serve, float after float after float that was dimed consistently. Sorry for the rant, but so disappointed in this match that was winnable and coaching, IMO, is what lost it for us. Just FYI Kelsey started and did not play well
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Jul 16, 2023 12:36:06 GMT -5
What was Vargas's country of origin? Originally, Cuba.
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