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Post by katn on Aug 30, 2023 11:21:22 GMT -5
the Elliot should be fired was a first of all a joke with you didn't seem to pick up on lmao, and it was only pertaining to the idea that texas can't beat mid level teams (lbsu) without Oneal, because they can. my post was literally defending texas against everyone saying they were down this year yet someone is still mad.... im convinced y'all choose to be mad before even reading posts at this point I'm not a Texas fan. I'm a GT fan. I'm indifferent to the animosity I've seen running between you and them. I can't remember you ever saying anything that made me mad, although I can recall you saying numerous things I regarded as foolish. Personally, I think if you put more thought into what you said up front, you'd have to spend far less time explaining yourself afterwards. i got to watch georgia tech play penn st it was a good game...it's also great to see d. pierce playing middle...i thought she played really well (she's got some hops) edit: it would be cool for gt to cause a stir in the acc |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 30, 2023 11:21:54 GMT -5
The second thing is that Texas targeted Landfair with every single serve. I mean, it was unrelenting. And she was horrid. Not just getting aced 10 times, but her terrible contacts put her team in a horrible position over and over again. To me she was UT’s most valuable player. It was unbelievable how bad she was. But more unbelievable is that Cook hung her out to dry. You’re supposed to put your players in a position to succeed, but Cook put her in a position to fail. The only rationale I can think of is that he was willing to sacrifice the outcome of this match to humble Landfair in some way so she and the team would become more open to a different approach, which if he tried to implement without the results of this match would be entirely ineffective. It was very disheartening to see Landfair try and battle through it, which I think was Cook's only rationale. Taylor does not need to be humbled, she is very humble to begin with. He also doesn't have a ton of options, having used his only spare DS players as serving subs for the middles. He did move Hanson into SR once. The worst was the few times Landfair made an 2 or 3 pass, the Gophers failed to convert and extended the misery. I thought Landfair's 5 RE's was mainly due to Parra against TCU. She had 3 more against Baylor, but 7 is simply not sustainable. Will see if adjustments are made on Saturday in Tallahassee. I realize in hindsight I really came down hard on Landfair. I have no ill will towards her. I think extremely highly of her as a player and I’ve always felt like she carried herself well. And she’s such a prodigious talent. I know she’s not the rah rah type. Lots of successful players are that way. Her laconic attitude can come across like she doesn’t care or she’s lazy, but I’ve never thought that about her at all. I think she cares deeply, but for whatever reason that’s none of my business that’s not something she shows. But I was stunned at what a difference she made in that match in serve receive. And how relentless Texas was in going after her. It made me think of the famous Scott Sterling YouTube video where no matter what he did the soccer ball found his face. It’s like wherever Landfair lined up she had a magnetic attraction to the ball off the serve so it found her no matter what. I don’t understand why Cook couldn’t have hidden her better. I watch USC matches and Keller will often have Fields in a position where it’s virtually impossible to serve it to her. It does open up the court more, but it means she won’t be in serve receive and she’s more available for a back row attack. But I’m not a coach. I just kind of watched in disbelief. Oh well, both teams have plenty to work on and plenty to be excited about. It’s just that talking about Minnesota’s positives with Landfair’s 6 rotation serve receive issues out there feels a little bit like the old line, “Well, other than that, Mrs.Lincoln, how was the play?” |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 30, 2023 11:22:57 GMT -5
Please don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for accuracy. That comment "Elliot should be fired" was about as wrong as you could be. the Elliot should be fired was a first of all a joke with you didn't seem to pick up on lmao, and it was only pertaining to the idea that texas can't beat mid level teams (lbsu) without Oneal, because they can. my post was literally defending texas against everyone saying they were down this year yet someone is still mad.... im convinced y'all choose to be mad before even reading posts at this point aardvark is not a Texas fan. |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 30, 2023 11:27:45 GMT -5
I'm not a Texas fan. I'm a GT fan. I'm indifferent to the animosity I've seen running between you and them. I can't remember you ever saying anything that made me mad, although I can recall you saying numerous things I regarded as foolish. Personally, I think if you put more thought into what you said up front, you'd have to spend far less time explaining yourself afterwards. This animosity is between Texas and all other fan bases. I’m here for it. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 30, 2023 11:32:11 GMT -5
This animosity is between Texas and all other fan bases. I’m here for it. Really? No way. 🙄 |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 30, 2023 11:34:55 GMT -5
Oh yes way. I enjoy you and all the other obsessives. It makes volleytalk more fun! |
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Post by volleyguy on Aug 30, 2023 11:35:44 GMT -5
It was very disheartening to see Landfair try and battle through it, which I think was Cook's only rationale. Taylor does not need to be humbled, she is very humble to begin with. He also doesn't have a ton of options, having used his only spare DS players as serving subs for the middles. He did move Hanson into SR once. The worst was the few times Landfair made an 2 or 3 pass, the Gophers failed to convert and extended the misery. I thought Landfair's 5 RE's was mainly due to Parra against TCU. She had 3 more against Baylor, but 7 is simply not sustainable. Will see if adjustments are made on Saturday in Tallahassee. I realize in hindsight I really came down hard on Landfair. I have no ill will towards her. I think extremely highly of her as a player and I’ve always felt like she carried herself well. And she’s such a prodigious talent. I know she’s not the rah rah type. Lots of successful players are that way. Her laconic attitude can come across like she doesn’t care or she’s lazy, but I’ve never thought that about her at all. I think she cares deeply, but for whatever reason that’s none of my business that’s not something she shows. But I was stunned at what a difference she made in that match in serve receive. And how relentless Texas was in going after her. It made me think of the famous Scott Sterling YouTube video where no matter what he did the soccer ball found his face. It’s like wherever Landfair lined up she had a magnetic attraction to the ball off the serve so it found her no matter what. I don’t understand why Cook couldn’t have hidden her better. I watch USC matches and Keller will often have Fields in a position where it’s virtually impossible to serve it to her. It does open up the court more, but it means she won’t be in serve receive and she’s more available for a back row attack. But I’m not a coach. I just kind of watched in disbelief. Oh well, both teams have plenty to work on and plenty to be excited about. It’s just that talking about Minnesota’s positives with Landfair’s 6 rotation serve receive issues out there feels a little bit like the old line, “Well, other than that, Mrs.Lincoln, how was the play?” Landfair's performance was not good. That much was obvious. Your suggestion that Cook was trying to intentionally humble Landfair is where you went astray. Some misjudgement in terms of his assessment of his players or his tactics is much more probable. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 30, 2023 11:36:59 GMT -5
the Elliot should be fired was a first of all a joke with you didn't seem to pick up on lmao, and it was only pertaining to the idea that texas can't beat mid level teams (lbsu) without Oneal, because they can. my post was literally defending texas against everyone saying they were down this year yet someone is still mad.... im convinced y'all choose to be mad before even reading posts at this point aardvark is not a Texas fan. my post wasn't directed at texas fans it was directed at volleytalk as a whole lmao, texas fans are just convinced I hate texas |
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 30, 2023 11:38:01 GMT -5
the Elliot should be fired was a first of all a joke with you didn't seem to pick up on lmao, and it was only pertaining to the idea that texas can't beat mid level teams (lbsu) without Oneal, because they can. my post was literally defending texas against everyone saying they were down this year yet someone is still mad.... im convinced y'all choose to be mad before even reading posts at this pointYet, somehow, the common denominator is almost always YOU. But, in your head, it's everyone else's fault. SMH the common denominator in your head is me, that is correct! |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 30, 2023 11:41:04 GMT -5
aardvark is not a Texas fan. my post wasn't directed at texas fans it was directed at volleytalk as a whole lmao, texas fans are just convinced I hate texas I don’t know about all Texas fans. I think you just like posting like I do. Texas is a top team with a ton of activity and they play a lot of compelling matches. Of course a lot your activity is going to involve UT volleyball. I do think it’s fair to say you root against Texas and as a volleyball fan you enjoy when they experience something other than success, but I can’t say whether that amounts to hate. Nor do I really care. |
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Post by craftylefty on Aug 30, 2023 11:42:23 GMT -5
Something positive:
- Awoleye remains a quiet badass
- Davis’ overpass kill was so, so pretty
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Post by slxpress on Aug 30, 2023 11:44:54 GMT -5
I realize in hindsight I really came down hard on Landfair. I have no ill will towards her. I think extremely highly of her as a player and I’ve always felt like she carried herself well. And she’s such a prodigious talent. I know she’s not the rah rah type. Lots of successful players are that way. Her laconic attitude can come across like she doesn’t care or she’s lazy, but I’ve never thought that about her at all. I think she cares deeply, but for whatever reason that’s none of my business that’s not something she shows. But I was stunned at what a difference she made in that match in serve receive. And how relentless Texas was in going after her. It made me think of the famous Scott Sterling YouTube video where no matter what he did the soccer ball found his face. It’s like wherever Landfair lined up she had a magnetic attraction to the ball off the serve so it found her no matter what. I don’t understand why Cook couldn’t have hidden her better. I watch USC matches and Keller will often have Fields in a position where it’s virtually impossible to serve it to her. It does open up the court more, but it means she won’t be in serve receive and she’s more available for a back row attack. But I’m not a coach. I just kind of watched in disbelief. Oh well, both teams have plenty to work on and plenty to be excited about. It’s just that talking about Minnesota’s positives with Landfair’s 6 rotation serve receive issues out there feels a little bit like the old line, “Well, other than that, Mrs.Lincoln, how was the play?” Landfair's performance was not good. That much was obvious. Your suggestion that Cook was trying to intentionally humble Landfair is where you went astray. Some misjudgement in terms of his assessment of his players or his tactics is much more probable. I don’t know if I went astray or not. That’s certainly something coaches - and other leaders - do at times. I’ve done it. It works. The other alternative is that he’s an idiot. But I bet he comes up with a plan B at some point. Because what I saw in that match was a terrible plan A, and it will be exploited from now on by any quality team unless Cook comes up with a solution. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 30, 2023 11:46:05 GMT -5
my post wasn't directed at texas fans it was directed at volleytalk as a whole lmao, texas fans are just convinced I hate texas I don’t know about all Texas fans. I think you just like posting like I do. Texas is a top team with a ton of activity and they play a lot of compelling matches. Of course a lot your activity is going to involve UT volleyball. I do think it’s fair to say you root against Texas and as a volleyball fan you enjoy when they experience something other than success, but I can’t say whether that amounts to hate. Nor do I really care. I definitely dont root FOR texas to win matches, I also dont really root against them per say. if they're playing Stanford, Louisville or Kentucky I definitely want them to lose. and yes being a powerhouse program that im not a fan of, I do root for the underdogs (non top 15) against them (the same way I do against wisconsin, pitt, and Nebraska) but I dont have an ill-will towards any program. when texas is playing a school like Minnesota or another top ranked school outside of my big 3, I just root for good volleyball. but when they're playing some unranked team that has no business beating them I do root for the underdog |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 30, 2023 11:59:51 GMT -5
I think the sentence before that statement explained it pretty clearly. what I think is more important is that people dont assume or make conclusions without anything to support them, then I would have to spend less time explaining myself. if you or anyone else genuinely took that part of the post seriously I honestly have no idea what to say tp that, I thought we were a little more advanced on here but thats my bad. im not gonna go six press mode on my posts and write a novel to defend a one line, unserious remark. all respect to sixpress lol I think the real issue is that you aren't putting much thought into your posts and end up saying stuff that triggers people. There are some people that are too easily triggered, but when you find yourself getting into these sorts of battles constantly, then maybe the real problem is that person staring back at you in the mirror. Your initial post that you applauded yourself on had enough questionable content that it should have been hard for any objective person to take it seriously. The fact that you subsequently congratulated yourself afterwards on it just seemed way over the top. Now... stop explaining yourself. You're in a hole. Put down the shovel. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 30, 2023 12:08:25 GMT -5
I'm not a Texas fan. I'm a GT fan. I'm indifferent to the animosity I've seen running between you and them. I can't remember you ever saying anything that made me mad, although I can recall you saying numerous things I regarded as foolish. Personally, I think if you put more thought into what you said up front, you'd have to spend far less time explaining yourself afterwards. This animosity is between Texas and all other fan bases. Yeah, just like it is between Hawaii and all other fan bases, between Nebraska and all other fan bases. And so on. Texas has had recent success, which makes them a target. Also, the playing field for this sport is slanted very much in their favor. Objectively speaking, they should have a bright near-to-mid term future in women's volleyball. That makes their fan base excited. I'm sure that some of them will get carried away in their enthusiasm from time to time. It comes with the territory. I just don't think there is anything intrinsic to that school about this. |
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