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Post by volleyguy on Aug 30, 2023 12:10:42 GMT -5
Landfair's performance was not good. That much was obvious. Your suggestion that Cook was trying to intentionally humble Landfair is where you went astray. Some misjudgement in terms of his assessment of his players or his tactics is much more probable. I don’t know if I went astray or not. That’s certainly something coaches - and other leaders - do at times. I’ve done it. It works. The other alternative is that he’s an idiot. But I bet he comes up with a plan B at some point. Because what I saw in that match was a terrible plan A, and it will be exploited from now on by any quality team unless Cook comes up with a solution. LOL
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Post by aardvark on Aug 30, 2023 12:11:25 GMT -5
i got to watch georgia tech play penn st it was a good game...it's also great to see d. pierce playing middle...i thought she played really well (she's got some hops) edit: it would be cool for gt to cause a stir in the acc DeAndra is going to see a lot more court time playing for GT than she would have ever gotten at Texas, that's for sure. I'm trying to keep my excitement for GT in check. We have three new starters, and all three did wonderful the first weekend. That's probably too much to ask to happen every week. It's nice when it happens though.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 30, 2023 12:14:09 GMT -5
aardvark is not a Texas fan. I consider myself neutral in regards to Texas. I guess that makes me a unicorn. The truth is that GT never really interacts with Texas in any sport, so there's no fuel to fire up rivalry sentiment.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 30, 2023 12:20:14 GMT -5
aardvark is not a Texas fan. I consider myself neutral in regards to Texas. I guess that makes me a unicorn. The truth is that GT never really interacts with Texas in any sport, so there's no fuel to fire up rivalry sentiment. Yeah, I’ve never thought of you as having much opinion one way or another. It’s not an impossible position. It’s just harder on volleytalk for a variety of reasons. I literally meant you’re not a Texas fan. When I posted I didn’t realize you had already replied, and then when I noticed, chose not to delete.
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Post by tudbud on Aug 30, 2023 12:27:18 GMT -5
This animosity is between Texas and all other fan bases. Yeah, just like it is between Hawaii and all other fan bases, between Nebraska and all other fan bases. And so on. Texas has had recent success, which makes them a target. Also, the playing field for this sport is slanted very much in their favor. Objectively speaking, they should have a bright near-to-mid term future in women's volleyball. That makes their fan base excited. I'm sure that some of them will get carried away in their enthusiasm from time to time. It comes with the territory. I just don't think there is anything intrinsic to that school about this. Recent success? About a decade an a half of excellence is recent? Huhmmm
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Post by Badger Alum on Aug 30, 2023 12:29:34 GMT -5
Zeynep Palabiyik, a very promising libero from turkey who just joined the team. She signed with an agent before committing so she has to sit out 20% of the season (no one really knows the exact amount but that seems to be the consensus) I didn't realize she was suspended. Such a stupid decision by the NCAA. Making things worse for the athletes. Sorry to hear that.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 30, 2023 12:30:19 GMT -5
Yeah, just like it is between Hawaii and all other fan bases, between Nebraska and all other fan bases. And so on. Texas has had recent success, which makes them a target. Also, the playing field for this sport is slanted very much in their favor. Objectively speaking, they should have a bright near-to-mid term future in women's volleyball. That makes their fan base excited. I'm sure that some of them will get carried away in their enthusiasm from time to time. It comes with the territory. I just don't think there is anything intrinsic to that school about this. Recent success? About a decade an a half of excellence is recent? Huhmmm Recent from my perspective. Just check to see how long I've been posting in VolleyTalk, and you'll understand. The truth is, I recognize what's going on with Texas, because I've seen it all before with other schools that were successful before Texas.
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Post by Badger Alum on Aug 30, 2023 12:36:05 GMT -5
I don't have a dog in this race. I'm a Badger fan. If the Badgers are not playing, I generally root for the Big 10 to win. Here's my high level take. Minnesota has never recovered from their setting problems. I feel like when they play the other teams it's the other teams that always have the better setter. Yes, the passing was terrible last night. But I'm not just talking about last night. I really think setting is what is holding Minnesota back. I've never been a fan of how Shaffmaster plays. I realize the majority love her and that is great. I have nothing against her personally. I just think Minnesota will never achieve their top goals with her setting.
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 30, 2023 12:41:52 GMT -5
This animosity is between Texas and all other fan bases. Yeah, just like it is between Hawaii and all other fan bases, between Nebraska and all other fan bases. And so on. Texas has had recent success, which makes them a target. Also, the playing field for this sport is slanted very much in their favor. Objectively speaking, they should have a bright near-to-mid term future in women's volleyball. That makes their fan base excited. I'm sure that some of them will get carried away in their enthusiasm from time to time. It comes with the territory. I just don't think there is anything intrinsic to that school about this. I live in Austin, go to nearly all their games (not just vb). It is absolutely about Texas. It's about Texas' perspective their state is the best place on earth despite significant evidence to the contrary. They are very different than other fan bases.
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 30, 2023 12:43:37 GMT -5
Yeah, just like it is between Hawaii and all other fan bases, between Nebraska and all other fan bases. And so on. Texas has had recent success, which makes them a target. Also, the playing field for this sport is slanted very much in their favor. Objectively speaking, they should have a bright near-to-mid term future in women's volleyball. That makes their fan base excited. I'm sure that some of them will get carried away in their enthusiasm from time to time. It comes with the territory. I just don't think there is anything intrinsic to that school about this. Recent success? About a decade an a half of excellence is recent? Huhmmm They won a championship in 1981 and 1989. My fav player from my high school in Wisconsin played on the 1989 team. Guess recent is relational.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Aug 30, 2023 12:59:06 GMT -5
I don't have a dog in this race. I'm a Badger fan. If the Badgers are not playing, I generally root for the Big 10 to win. Here's my high level take. Minnesota has never recovered from their setting problems. I feel like when they play the other teams it's the other teams that always have the better setter. Yes, the passing was terrible last night. But I'm not just talking about last night. I really think setting is what is holding Minnesota back. I've never been a fan of how Shaffmaster plays. I realize the majority love her and that is great. I have nothing against her personally. I just think Minnesota will never achieve their top goals with her setting. You are correct.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Aug 30, 2023 13:01:15 GMT -5
Recent success? About a decade an a half of excellence is recent? Huhmmm Recent from my perspective. Just check to see how long I've been posting in VolleyTalk, and you'll understand. The truth is, I recognize what's going on with Texas, because I've seen it all before with other schools that were successful before Texas. We've been around for a while
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Post by mnsports255 on Aug 30, 2023 13:04:54 GMT -5
I don't have a dog in this race. I'm a Badger fan. If the Badgers are not playing, I generally root for the Big 10 to win. Here's my high level take. Minnesota has never recovered from their setting problems. I feel like when they play the other teams it's the other teams that always have the better setter. Yes, the passing was terrible last night. But I'm not just talking about last night. I really think setting is what is holding Minnesota back. I've never been a fan of how Shaffmaster plays. I realize the majority love her and that is great. I have nothing against her personally. I just think Minnesota will never achieve their top goals with her setting. I’ve wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt for years because of the other things she brings to the table at a high level, but it’s a problem when every other set yields a miss connection / mistiming between her and her outsides and she’s never confident enough to use her middles. That’s a big problem. Need to have a setter that can consistently connect with their outsides and spread the offense out and use their middles. Landfair hasn’t done anything to help her out but you’d think some more consistent setting would’ve happened by this point in her career if was ever going to happen. But, she’s one of the best blockers, defenders, and servers on the team and one of the better offensive setters in the country. She brings good things to the table if the reality is she’s going to have to be the setter the next season or two. I just wish Keegan and staff would try what Hugh never did and slow down the offense they want to run just a little bit to make it easier for Mel to consistently connect with her hitters and give them a chance at different shots on a consistent basis. And on the other hand, the pins can still continue to step up and elevate their game. The better gophers pins in recent history like Wilhite, Daly, Hart, and Samedy would still find ways to consistently terminate on OOS balls and subpar sets. The gophers need Wucherer and Landfair to perform similarly to have a high level of success.
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Post by gopherfan22 on Aug 30, 2023 13:14:01 GMT -5
Yeah, just like it is between Hawaii and all other fan bases, between Nebraska and all other fan bases. And so on. Texas has had recent success, which makes them a target. Also, the playing field for this sport is slanted very much in their favor. Objectively speaking, they should have a bright near-to-mid term future in women's volleyball. That makes their fan base excited. I'm sure that some of them will get carried away in their enthusiasm from time to time. It comes with the territory. I just don't think there is anything intrinsic to that school about this. I live in Austin, go to nearly all their games (not just vb). It is absolutely about Texas. It's about Texas' perspective their state is the best place on earth despite significant evidence to the contrary. They are very different than other fan bases.
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Post by widdledumpling on Aug 30, 2023 13:16:20 GMT -5
Texas needs to aggressively target Wucherer and Landfair with serve if they want to win. Especially seam between the two when possible. Not groundbreaking strategy, but the passing by those two, despite Minnesota's results, was really quite poor on the weekend. a prophet
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