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Post by gopherfan22 on Aug 30, 2023 13:19:27 GMT -5
Yeah, just like it is between Hawaii and all other fan bases, between Nebraska and all other fan bases. And so on. Texas has had recent success, which makes them a target. Also, the playing field for this sport is slanted very much in their favor. Objectively speaking, they should have a bright near-to-mid term future in women's volleyball. That makes their fan base excited. I'm sure that some of them will get carried away in their enthusiasm from time to time. It comes with the territory. I just don't think there is anything intrinsic to that school about this. I live in Austin, go to nearly all their games (not just vb). It is absolutely about Texas. It's about Texas' perspective their state is the best place on earth despite significant evidence to the contrary. They are very different than other fan bases. I absolutely 100% agree with this! Since SSS left, it’s been so hard to watch! I was honestly disappointed when Mel said she was coming back next year, considering Stella is coming in as well. The play that she almost made but got called for a net violation would have not been a violation with a quicker setter. When she does play offensive it’s good, but to me it’s not worth sacrificing quickness and accuracy.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 30, 2023 13:39:40 GMT -5
I live in Austin, go to nearly all their games (not just vb). It is absolutely about Texas. It's about Texas' perspective their state is the best place on earth.... They are very different than other fan bases. That’s not about perspective. That’s just basic facts right there.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Aug 30, 2023 13:41:40 GMT -5
I don't have a dog in this race. I'm a Badger fan. If the Badgers are not playing, I generally root for the Big 10 to win. Here's my high level take. Minnesota has never recovered from their setting problems. I feel like when they play the other teams it's the other teams that always have the better setter. Yes, the passing was terrible last night. But I'm not just talking about last night. I really think setting is what is holding Minnesota back. I've never been a fan of how Shaffmaster plays. I realize the majority love her and that is great. I have nothing against her personally. I just think Minnesota will never achieve their top goals with her setting. Her mobility is definitely an issue - with that braced knee. There were multiple points last night where Shaffmaster had to dive or get down for a dig and literally could not get back up
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Post by nellynel on Aug 30, 2023 13:43:50 GMT -5
That’s not about perspective. That’s just basic facts right there. What’s more arrogant? Being arrogant and owning it or being arrogant but hiding behind some passive aggressive cover?
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Aug 30, 2023 13:44:45 GMT -5
It was very disheartening to see Landfair try and battle through it, which I think was Cook's only rationale. Taylor does not need to be humbled, she is very humble to begin with. He also doesn't have a ton of options, having used his only spare DS players as serving subs for the middles. He did move Hanson into SR once. The worst was the few times Landfair made an 2 or 3 pass, the Gophers failed to convert and extended the misery. I thought Landfair's 5 RE's was mainly due to Parra against TCU. She had 3 more against Baylor, but 7 is simply not sustainable. Will see if adjustments are made on Saturday in Tallahassee. I realize in hindsight I really came down hard on Landfair. I have no ill will towards her. I think extremely highly of her as a player and I’ve always felt like she carried herself well. And she’s such a prodigious talent. I know she’s not the rah rah type. Lots of successful players are that way. Her laconic attitude can come across like she doesn’t care or she’s lazy, but I’ve never thought that about her at all. I think she cares deeply, but for whatever reason that’s none of my business that’s not something she shows. But I was stunned at what a difference she made in that match in serve receive. And how relentless Texas was in going after her. It made me think of the famous Scott Sterling YouTube video where no matter what he did the soccer ball found his face. It’s like wherever Landfair lined up she had a magnetic attraction to the ball off the serve so it found her no matter what. I don’t understand why Cook couldn’t have hidden her better. I watch USC matches and Keller will often have Fields in a position where it’s virtually impossible to serve it to her. It does open up the court more, but it means she won’t be in serve receive and she’s more available for a back row attack. But I’m not a coach. I just kind of watched in disbelief. Oh well, both teams have plenty to work on and plenty to be excited about. It’s just that talking about Minnesota’s positives with Landfair’s 6 rotation serve receive issues out there feels a little bit like the old line, “Well, other than that, Mrs.Lincoln, how was the play?” 100% a failure of coaching. I don't understand why Cook didn't either sub her out for a couple of points, just to get a breather/mental reset. Or else change the passing pattern
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Post by horns1 on Aug 30, 2023 13:56:21 GMT -5
Yeah, just like it is between Hawaii and all other fan bases, between Nebraska and all other fan bases. And so on. Texas has had recent success, which makes them a target. Also, the playing field for this sport is slanted very much in their favor. Objectively speaking, they should have a bright near-to-mid term future in women's volleyball. That makes their fan base excited. I'm sure that some of them will get carried away in their enthusiasm from time to time. It comes with the territory. I just don't think there is anything intrinsic to that school about this. I live in Austin, go to nearly all their games (not just vb). It is absolutely about Texas. It's about Texas' perspective their state is the best place on earth despite significant evidence to the contrary. They are very different than other fan bases. So, not only is it Longhorn fans who you have a disdain for, but all Texans (Aggies, Bears, Red Raiders, etc.) who take pride in their state. Maybe it's just your own insecurities getting the best of you. Not sure why you continue to purchase Longhorn volleyball season tickets if you have such a miserable time surrounded by so many native Texans and Longhorn fans there to support the players and program; you know, clearly the OPPOSITE of why you attend those matches. But, you will WILLINGLY continue to attend (10 years now?) and then come here to this message board to whine because you have nothing better to do.
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Post by widdledumpling on Aug 30, 2023 14:04:31 GMT -5
Rewatching.
At 15-12 in the 3rd is an example of Texas adjusting in SR the way Cook seems to refuse to. Previous point Madi got aced down the line. Next point the serve was to the exact same spot, but Madi stepped out of the way and Barnes did the old Eggleston-Fleck poach and passed a 3.
Really weird we didn’t see anything like that from Minn last night
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Aug 30, 2023 14:13:14 GMT -5
Rewatching. At 15-12 in the 3rd is an example of Texas adjusting in SR the way Cook seems to refuse to. Previous point Madi got aced down the line. Next point the serve was to the exact same spot, but Madi stepped out of the way and Barnes did the old Eggleston-Fleck poach and passed a 3. Really weird we didn’t see anything like that from Minn last night On YouTube?
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Aug 30, 2023 14:13:48 GMT -5
LOL at everyone cheering when Landfair passes a 3 ball positive reinforcement.
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Post by widdledumpling on Aug 30, 2023 14:15:06 GMT -5
Rewatching. At 15-12 in the 3rd is an example of Texas adjusting in SR the way Cook seems to refuse to. Previous point Madi got aced down the line. Next point the serve was to the exact same spot, but Madi stepped out of the way and Barnes did the old Eggleston-Fleck poach and passed a 3. Really weird we didn’t see anything like that from Minn last night On YouTube? B1G+
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2023 14:16:22 GMT -5
Rewatching. At 15-12 in the 3rd is an example of Texas adjusting in SR the way Cook seems to refuse to. Previous point Madi got aced down the line. Next point the serve was to the exact same spot, but Madi stepped out of the way and Barnes did the old Eggleston-Fleck poach and passed a 3. Really weird we didn’t see anything like that from Minn last night minny doesn’t have anyone who can poach
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Post by harryspotter on Aug 30, 2023 14:21:26 GMT -5
Rewatching. At 15-12 in the 3rd is an example of Texas adjusting in SR the way Cook seems to refuse to. Previous point Madi got aced down the line. Next point the serve was to the exact same spot, but Madi stepped out of the way and Barnes did the old Eggleston-Fleck poach and passed a 3. Really weird we didn’t see anything like that from Minn last night I think they did at some point. I remember Murr poached a serve from her at some point. I will have to rewatch to see which set.
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Aug 30, 2023 14:23:25 GMT -5
Something positive: - Awoleye remains a quiet badass - Davis’ overpass kill was so, so pretty I'll add Grote's OOS rip that was breathtaking.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Aug 30, 2023 14:24:27 GMT -5
Rewatching. At 15-12 in the 3rd is an example of Texas adjusting in SR the way Cook seems to refuse to. Previous point Madi got aced down the line. Next point the serve was to the exact same spot, but Madi stepped out of the way and Barnes did the old Eggleston-Fleck poach and passed a 3. Really weird we didn’t see anything like that from Minn last night minny doesn’t have anyone who can poach while true, I was also wondering why Minnesota wasn’t doing that… like it was very clear and obvious we were aiming for Landfair. why wouldn’t Murr just immediately scoot over and take Landfair’s place in SR once the server started their approach?
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Post by hornfanaustin on Aug 30, 2023 14:31:10 GMT -5
minny doesn’t have anyone who can poach while true, I was also wondering why Minnesota wasn’t doing that… like it was very clear and obvious we were aiming for Landfair. why wouldn’t Murr just immediately scoot over and take Landfair’s place in SR once the server started their approach? To be fair to MN, I did see that happen a few times (Murr protecting Landfair). In fact, in the 4th set Landfair scooted off the court so that one of her teammates could get first contact in her place.
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