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Post by outlaw on Aug 29, 2023 10:49:12 GMT -5
When did Kendall Kipp transfer to Texas? Kendall Kipp played significant minutes for the USNT this summer? shes likely more impactful for Stanford than Asjia is for Texas, but one was on the finals roster of the VNL and the other wasn’t even on the wide roster (and her position is the weakest of all) OOOO |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 29, 2023 10:55:42 GMT -5
It's comical how everyone was all over Asjia this summer but now that the season has started and she's back at Texas, she's getting disrespected. Had someone like Strivins had even the slightest amount of success that Asjia had with the national team, they probably would've given her the NPOY before the season even started, but I know some of y'all can't help yourselves when it comes to Texas. Meh. A lot of it is just different posters having different opinions. Volleytalk is not a monolithic hive mind. We have different perspectives on things. And sure, there’s some Texas hate. But it would be the same for any top team that comes out of the gate struggling. Wisconsin got the same treatment last year after their non conference struggles. Both Wisconsin and especially Nebraska got the treatment after their post season losses. We certainly heard all about it all off season after losing to Nebraska in Gregory. Penn State is getting the treatment right now after being so successful in the portal and then dropping their first two matches. I do think Texas gets a little more hate than a lot of other teams, but I don’t think they get more hate than Nebraska, for example. Especially after Texas won the natty, which erased the low hanging fruit insult that was the gold standard comment to make about Elliott and Texas. Some of it is simply about being successful, having an extremely active fan base on here, and the arrogance of many of us making others feel gleeful when we get some perceived comeuppance. I don’t think we have to turn ourselves into martyrs. I enjoy the extra attention we generate. I think it’s fun Long Beach attracted their biggest crowd in over 20 years when we came to play, and then it was half that for their next match. We see that same dynamic over and over again. We’ll see it all season long. I think it makes things more fun. |
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Post by dl3ww on Aug 29, 2023 10:58:03 GMT -5
When did Kendall Kipp transfer to Texas? Kendall Kipp played significant minutes for the USNT this summer? shes likely more impactful for Stanford than Asjia is for Texas, but one was on the finals roster of the VNL and the other wasn’t even on the wide roster (and her position is the weakest of all) Bloop, clock it😮💨 |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 29, 2023 11:00:10 GMT -5
When did Kendall Kipp transfer to Texas? Kendall Kipp played significant minutes for the USNT this summer? shes likely more impactful for Stanford than Asjia is for Texas, but one was on the finals roster of the VNL and the other wasn’t even on the wide roster (and her position is the weakest of all) Come on, man. It’s a joke. The post said Asjia is the best player in the country and the poster replied referencing Kendall Kipp. It’s a joke! Get it? Personally, I thought it was pretty funny. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 29, 2023 11:01:57 GMT -5
everyone calm down dear god. Oneal is definitely a big loss for texas, would having her for 3 rotations last weekend have not made them look like a dumpster fire? I dont think so, but id probably hold onto that hope too if it was my favorite team. my point is basically everyone here is wrong and im right  , non texas fans are downplaying oneal's effect on the game, and texas fans are over estimating her effect. would she make them better? of course. would she have fixed the number of issues they had at lbsu? no, unless she's a wizard. they didn't look one good middle away from being a top 5 team, but definitely looked like they could use one |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 29, 2023 11:08:32 GMT -5
everyone calm down dear god. Oneal is definitely a big loss for texas, would having her for 3 rotations last weekend have not made them look like a dumpster fire? I dont think so but id probably hold onto that hope too if it was my favorite team. my point is everyone here is wrong and im right , non texas fans are downplaying oneal's effect on the game, and texas fans are over estimating her effect. would she make them better? of course. would she have fixed the number of issues they had at lbsu? no, unless she's a wizard She is a wizard, and I love dumpster fires. This thread has been immensely entertaining. I don’t want anyone to calm down. Don’t listen to stanfordvb ! |
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 29, 2023 11:11:05 GMT -5
everyone calm down dear god. Oneal is definitely a big loss for texas, would having her for 3 rotations last weekend have not made them look like a dumpster fire? I dont think so but id probably hold onto that hope too if it was my favorite team. my point is everyone here is wrong and im right , non texas fans are downplaying oneal's effect on the game, and texas fans are over estimating her effect. would she make them better? of course. would she have fixed the number of issues they had at lbsu? no, unless she's a wizard She is a wizard, and I love dumpster fires. This thread has been immensely entertaining. I don’t want anyone to calm down. Don’t listen to stanfordvb ! I just need this season to be over so I can finally start cheering for Oneal |
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Post by slxpress on Aug 29, 2023 11:14:04 GMT -5
She is a wizard, and I love dumpster fires. This thread has been immensely entertaining. I don’t want anyone to calm down. Don’t listen to stanfordvb ! I just need this season to be over so I can finally start cheering for Oneal You can cheer for her now. Just don’t cheer for Texas. I cheered for Skylar Fields on Saturday even though I was rooting for Rice. I didn’t feel torn. |
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Post by 25or624 on Aug 29, 2023 11:17:59 GMT -5
everyone calm down dear god. Oneal is definitely a big loss for texas, would having her for 3 rotations last weekend have not made them look like a dumpster fire? I dont think so but id probably hold onto that hope too if it was my favorite team. my point is everyone here is wrong and im right , non texas fans are downplaying oneal's effect on the game, and texas fans are over estimating her effect. would she make them better? of course. would she have fixed the number of issues they had at lbsu? no, unless she's a wizard She is a wizard, and I love dumpster fires. This thread has been immensely entertaining. I don’t want anyone to calm down. Don’t listen to stanfordvb ! As a Badger fan it is entertaining, but also a cautionary tale. I'm sure the Badgers, and most other top teams, will hit a rough patch along the way. Meanwhile Michella Chester, everyone's favorite, was having a hard time with ranking the Gophers and The Longhorns:
weekend
I'm looking forward to watching the showdown tonight.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Aug 29, 2023 11:20:46 GMT -5
I'm confused, outside of Skinner, weren't the passing numbers above 2 for the rest of the team overall? Literally people act like there were no good passes. Overall, much to be desired, but it wasn’t the world’s worst passing. On good stretches, O’Neal there would have made the block honest, opened things up for Madi and Jenna and maybe had them less pressed. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, and maybe not a different outcome, but certainly a different game. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 29, 2023 11:29:21 GMT -5
She is a wizard, and I love dumpster fires. This thread has been immensely entertaining. I don’t want anyone to calm down. Don’t listen to stanfordvb ! Not many people know this, but dumpster fires are *the* best kind to toast marshmallows on. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 29, 2023 11:31:48 GMT -5
I'm confused, outside of Skinner, weren't the passing numbers above 2 for the rest of the team overall? Literally people act like there were no good passes. Overall, much to be desired, but it wasn’t the world’s worst passing. On good stretches, O’Neal there would have made the block honest, opened things up for Madi and Jenna and maybe had them less pressed. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, and maybe not a different outcome, but certainly a different game. Word on the street was that you forgot to light candles, and the outcome was actually all your fault. |
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Post by hornshouse23 on Aug 29, 2023 11:34:15 GMT -5
Literally people act like there were no good passes. Overall, much to be desired, but it wasn’t the world’s worst passing. On good stretches, O’Neal there would have made the block honest, opened things up for Madi and Jenna and maybe had them less pressed. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, and maybe not a different outcome, but certainly a different game. Word on the street was that you forgot to light candles, and the outcome was actually all your fault. hashtag fact, but I blame volleybae for being a distraction. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 29, 2023 11:36:18 GMT -5
O'Neal can't improve the passing and floor defense, although she might honestly be a step up. y'all act like every other aspect of Texas' game was spot on but production from the MB. You have no options for OH2 that can pass. Your libero is struggling to handle the larger load. Akana hasn't stepped up. If someone can explain to me how Swindle will get the ball to O'Neal I'm all ears. I haven’t been part of this conversation, so I’m unclear on context. I just saw this post. The first thing I’d say is nothing I post is going to affect the outcome, whether O’Neal plays or not. But as a thought exercise, here are some of my responses. O’Neal can improve floor defense. She has way more lateral quickness and accurate anticipation of where to be as a blocker than anyone else on the team, as she showed over the summer for the national team. Having a blocker in the right place at the right time has a tremendous impact on floor defense that goes way beyond getting the actual block or not. Block touches often create a much easier transition opportunity. It creates more tips and roll shots. It creates attacks going out of bounds to avoid the block. It creates more shots in line with where the floor defense is sitting. In addition, O’Neal is remarkable as a back row defender for a middle blocker. Understand I am saying AS a middle blocker. But for the one rotation she serves, it makes a difference for her to be out there rather than Bergmark or Phillips. To say she can’t impact floor defense with her presence is silly. She can and she does. Skinner is about as good at passing as Eggleston was and we won a national championship and made another finals with her as a 6 rotation outside hitter. I don’t see Skinner as a major flaw. They could also move Wenaas to that role, and she is a decent passer. Way better than Franklin or TTA, for example, and i’m not over here worrying about what Wisconsin is going to do with Orzol as a libero. I don’t think Halter is struggling that much, other than there’s an overall sense of confusion on the floor. But IMO that would exist wig Fleck was out there. Something about the coaching staff’s approach changed from last season to this one. Don’t know what it is, but it has created a lot of confusion on the floor that didn’t exist at all at the beginning of last year. That’s not on Halter. She’s going to be just fine. I don’t know about Akana stepping up. I didn’t even realize she was on the floor a lot of the time against LMU. But in rewatching, a lot of the goofy errors Texas was making seemed to be on the opposite side of the floor from where she was, or several times it felt like she was doing too much, like taking the second contact when Swindle was right next to her. That’s not about not stepping up. That’s something else going on. If anything she’s trying too hard to step up rather than trusting her teammates. Swindle is a true freshman. What she is experiencing should not be a surprise to anyone. The only surprise I have is she seems to have regressed from the scrimmages and even the spring. But it’s only two matches. I do not feel like passing is the main issue for Texas the way you seem to. I think there’s a lack of cohesion and everyone understanding their roles. Too many times I’d watch Swindle scramble to make first contact, when a teammate was in better position to make the play, which then put Texas out of system. Too many times I saw a teammate take second contact when Swindle was right there. The thing I’ll say about Texas is that there’s no lack of hustle or effort. Everyone is trying hard. But like several posters commented on, they looked like they were a bunch of strangers playing a pickup game. THAT’S Texas biggest issue. Not missing O’Neal, although unlike you I’m not going to diminish her importance. Probably the biggest thing she brings is the gravitas as the undisputed leader of the team. She’s the one who consistently stepped up last year when the team was playing on their heels somewhat, and did a William Wallace speech to turn things around. She wasn’t always like that, but she is now. Other players might grow into that role the same way O’Neal did, but for right now she’s it. There’s no Fleck or Eggleston, two players who also filled that role last year. I’m honestly not terribly concerned about this Texas team. There’s plenty of talent. I like what I see from Swindle. She just needs more reps and right now she needs to see some success. But she has all the tools. I feel like we’re in good hands over the long haul, but there may be some turbulence ahead in the short term, to the extent the oxygen masks may even drop down. But we’re going to be fine. My big thing is I don’t know what the time horizon for team improvement is going to be, nor how high the ceiling is. But that’s okay. I’m comfortable in not knowing. This team will get better, and I plan on enjoying the season’s journey regardless of where it lands. But the biggest issue to me with Texas by far is players understanding their roles, playing within their lanes while still balling all out, and having trust for one another. That’s the biggest difference I see by far in this Texas team and last year’s, which was remarkably cohesive coming out of the gates. Can O’Neal help with that? I think so. But it doesn’t have to wait for her return to get better. I’d like to see some improvement this week, regardless of the outcome against two extremely high quality opponents. Good comments but passing was an issue. I don't have the stats but I know someone does. You were OOS waaay too much for Molly and Jenna to terminate. That's an issue. When Molly moved to middle, there was better production OOS. Every passer took a statistical step down from last year. Will they improve...yes. Are they Eggleston and Fleck with a side of Halter? No. |
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Post by anastasia1 on Aug 29, 2023 11:36:25 GMT -5
When did Kendall Kipp transfer to Texas? Kendall Kipp played significant minutes for the USNT this summer? shes likely more impactful for Stanford than Asjia is for Texas, but one was on the finals roster of the VNL and the other wasn’t even on the wide roster (and her position is the weakest of all) omg i just screamed |
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, non texas fans are downplaying oneal's effect on the game, and texas fans are over estimating her effect. would she make them better? of course. would she have fixed the number of issues they had at lbsu? no, unless she's a wizard. they didn't look one good middle away from being a top 5 team, but definitely looked like they could use one 
