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Post by burbank55 on Sept 17, 2023 16:11:11 GMT -5
Defending PAC-12 Champions. 2018 and 2019 National Champions. 2024 Schedule: uclabruins.com/sports/womens-beach-volleyball/schedule/2024The UCLA Beach 2024 roster dropped a while ago and I thought I’d help out the Bruin bunch by creating a new thread so the 22-23 one can be retired. Not yet updated with any new transfers. uclabruins.com/sports/womens-beach-volleyball/roster2 Taylor Ford. 5' 7'' Fr. Danville, Calif. / Monte Vista HS 3 Reagan Hope. 6' 2'' Jr. Phoenix, Ariz. / Northwest Christian HS 4 Rileigh Powers. 5' 10'' Gr. Oviedo, Fla. / Oviedo HS 5 Peri Brennan. 5' 7'' Sr. Laguna Beach, Calif. / Laguna Beach HS 6 Hannah Fleming. 5' 11'' Fr. 7 Madeline Bonanni. 5' 9'' Jr. Manhattan Beach, Calif. / Mira Costa HS 8 Sophie Moore. 5' 9'' Jr. Encinitas, Calif. / La Costa Canyon HS 9 Natalie Myszkowski. 6' 0'' Jr. Manhattan Beach, Calif. / Mira Costa HS 10 Jaden Whitmarsh. 5' 8'' Gr. San Diego, Calif. / Torrey Pines HS 11 Jessie Smith. 6' 0'' Jr. Laguna Niguel, Calif. / Aliso Niguel HS 12 Maggie Boyd. 5' 11'' So. Flower Mound, Texas / Marcus HS 13 Devon Newberry. 5' 10'' Gr. Santa Monica, Calif. / Marymount HS 14 Jayla Shanks. 6' 0'' R-Fr. Corona, Calif. / Santiago HS 15 Kenzie Brower. 6' 1'' R-Fr. Naperville, Ill. / Naperville Central HS 17 Harper Cooper. 5' 10'' Fr. Rowlett, Texas / Parish Episcopal 18 Kaley Mathews. 5' 11'' Fr. Marin County, Calif. / Redwood HS 20 Ky Vaickus. 5' 10'' R-Fr. San Diego, Calif. / La Jolla HS 22 Tessa Van Winkle. 6' 2'' Sr. San Clemente, Calif. / San Clemente HS 25 Lexy Denaburg. 6' 0'' Gr. Merritt Island, Fla. / Merritt Island HS 44 Ensley Alden. 5' 10'' R-Fr. Vista, Calif. / San Marcos HS
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Post by dunninla3 on Sept 17, 2023 22:56:43 GMT -5
Always happy to catch a bone thrown from cross town.
There are two big improvements I see immediately --
- Jaden Whitmarsh is not the same Jaden of a year ago. I've never seen a player change so much is so short a time. She was like a player possessed on the AVP.
- Lindsey Sparks: Before her injury, I thought she was a 1s quality Little.
Along with Boyd, Newberry (healthy shoulder) and Denaberg, UCLA may have the best first 5 in the country.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 18, 2023 1:49:49 GMT -5
NCAA college beach has definitely had a great impact on the pro tour, but its strange to see so little height here. Seems pretty similar at other top programs. Since a school like UCLA, along with USC, basically has its pick of players, it seems odd that neither team has a player over 6'2 (which is smallish for an elite international blockers).
Are there just not taller players interested in beach, because it seems like every indoor team has a few players 6'3 or taller. Or maybe USC and UCLA just don't see the point in developing bigger, more initially awkward athletes over time when they can grab ready to contribute players who may have less long term potential (thinking Nourses here)
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Post by JB Southpaw on Sept 18, 2023 7:49:01 GMT -5
NCAA college beach has definitely had a great impact on the pro tour, but its strange to see so little height here. Seems pretty similar at other top programs. Since a school like UCLA, along with USC, basically has its pick of players, it seems odd that neither team has a player over 6'2 (which is smallish for an elite international blockers). Are there just not taller players interested in beach, because it seems like every indoor team has a few players 6'3 or taller. Or maybe USC and UCLA just don't see the point in developing bigger, more initially awkward athletes over time when they can grab ready to contribute players who may have less long term potential (thinking Nourses here) Some programs may not want to "develop" the taller players. I also think, in general terms, Taller plays stay indoors longer. 1. That is where their bread and butter is. 2. They feel more awkward in sand, doesn't show up so much indoor maybe only playing front row. If you look at 2 of the taller successful players recently (not the same level of success, I know), Kloth and DeBerg, they both were indoor to beach late. LSU def. seams like one of the upper level schools that will put in the work with them.
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Post by bobinmd on Sept 18, 2023 8:51:41 GMT -5
Always happy to catch a bone thrown from cross town. There are two big improvements I see immediately -- - Jaden Whitmarsh is not the same Jaden of a year ago. I've never seen a player change so much is so short a time. She was like a player possessed on the AVP. - Lindsey Sparks: Before her injury, I thought she was a 1s quality Little. Along with Boyd, Newberry (healthy shoulder) and Denaberg, UCLA may have the best first 5 in the country. Thanks everyone for your input. I was Jonesing for some Bruins info. I’m a fan of Natalie M and this (my uninformed opinion) will be a big season for her. Fours up.
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Post by burbank55 on Sept 18, 2023 16:49:34 GMT -5
Always happy to catch a bone thrown from cross town. There are two big improvements I see immediately -- - Jaden Whitmarsh is not the same Jaden of a year ago. I've never seen a player change so much is so short a time. She was like a player possessed on the AVP. - Lindsey Sparks: Before her injury, I thought she was a 1s quality Little. Along with Boyd, Newberry (healthy shoulder) and Denaberg, UCLA may have the best first 5 in the country. Wait, I thought Newberry/Whitmarsh had been demoted to Court 5. 🤣🤣🤣 Brennan/AVW played amazingly until the Finals. You don’t think Brennan deserves to be a top 3 pairs starter? I know, competing with Sparks. Will be interesting to see if Coach JJJ has a different philosophy or strategy regarding pairing than Steino. Split up Boyd and Denaberg if Sparks is healthy? My 6 card Poker hand - (I can see arguments both ways): Kraft Maple Kriz Nourse Nourse White
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Post by dunninla3 on Sept 19, 2023 1:12:38 GMT -5
Always happy to catch a bone thrown from cross town. There are two big improvements I see immediately -- - Jaden Whitmarsh is not the same Jaden of a year ago. I've never seen a player change so much is so short a time. She was like a player possessed on the AVP. - Lindsey Sparks: Before her injury, I thought she was a 1s quality Little. Along with Boyd, Newberry (healthy shoulder) and Denaberg, UCLA may have the best first 5 in the country. Will be interesting to see if Coach JJJ has a different philosophy or strategy regarding pairing than Steino. Split up Boyd and Denaberg if Sparks is healthy? several unknowns here. How healthy is Sparks, really? Perhaps start her at 3s early season, then move her to 1s. By the time Nationals rolls around, I could see Denaburg/Sparks, Boyd/Newberry split blocking, but then what to do with a Whitmarsh? Maybe go Newberry/Whitmarsh at 2s and Boyd/Brennan at 3s. In that case, Whitmarsh (if she continues with the attack philosophy she used in AVP this summer) and Sparks fight it out for Little 1 and Little 2. I think with a healthy Sparks last year UCLA makes more of a challenge for the Title vs. USC.
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Post by burbank55 on Sept 19, 2023 14:09:16 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see if Coach JJJ has a different philosophy or strategy regarding pairing than Steino. Split up Boyd and Denaberg if Sparks is healthy? several unknowns here. How healthy is Sparks, really? Perhaps start her at 3s early season, then move her to 1s. By the time Nationals rolls around, I could see Denaburg/Sparks, Boyd/Newberry split blocking, but then what to do with a Whitmarsh? Maybe go Newberry/Whitmarsh at 2s and Boyd/Brennan at 3s. In that case, Whitmarsh (if she continues with the attack philosophy she used in AVP this summer) and Sparks fight it out for Little 1 and Little 2. I think with a healthy Sparks last year UCLA makes more of a challenge for the Title vs. USC. Yes, I think the pairings you worked through are the ones that make the most sense if Sparks is back. 1. Denaburg/Sparks 2. Newberry/Whitmarsh 3. Boyd/Brennan Powers and Smith in the mix too.
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Post by OuchMyBack on Sept 20, 2023 7:09:08 GMT -5
NCAA college beach has definitely had a great impact on the pro tour, but its strange to see so little height here. Seems pretty similar at other top programs. Since a school like UCLA, along with USC, basically has its pick of players, it seems odd that neither team has a player over 6'2 (which is smallish for an elite international blockers). Are there just not taller players interested in beach, because it seems like every indoor team has a few players 6'3 or taller. Or maybe USC and UCLA just don't see the point in developing bigger, more initially awkward athletes over time when they can grab ready to contribute players who may have less long term potential (thinking Nourses here) Tall players that want to play beach are just not there yet in quantity. Most of the (athletic) tall players opt for indoor where the $ is. Beach needs more funding and you will see an uptick in the bigger athletes heading to the beach side full time.
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Post by dunninla3 on Sept 20, 2023 7:58:56 GMT -5
NCAA college beach has definitely had a great impact on the pro tour, but its strange to see so little height here. Seems pretty similar at other top programs. Since a school like UCLA, along with USC, basically has its pick of players, it seems odd that neither team has a player over 6'2 (which is smallish for an elite international blockers). Are there just not taller players interested in beach, because it seems like every indoor team has a few players 6'3 or taller. Or maybe USC and UCLA just don't see the point in developing bigger, more initially awkward athletes over time when they can grab ready to contribute players who may have less long term potential (thinking Nourses here) Tall players that want to play beach are just not there yet in quantity. Most of the (athletic) tall players opt for indoor where the $ is. Beach needs more funding and you will see an uptick in the bigger athletes heading to the beach side full time. What sort of funding are you referring to? If you mean salaries playing after college, I would agree. However, full scholarships for Beach for top 10 or so players each year are there, and half or 3/4 rides are there in numbers as well.
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Post by OuchMyBack on Sept 20, 2023 11:54:10 GMT -5
Tall players that want to play beach are just not there yet in quantity. Most of the (athletic) tall players opt for indoor where the $ is. Beach needs more funding and you will see an uptick in the bigger athletes heading to the beach side full time. What sort of funding are you referring to? If you mean salaries playing after college, I would agree. However, full scholarships for Beach for top 10 or so players each year are there, and half or 3/4 rides are there in numbers as well. I'm talking funding for beach scholarships. No team has 10 full scholarships...it's not allowed. 20 or so players per team and a MAX of 6 full scholarships if you are fully funded. Some D1 schools have 2....some have 0. I'm going to confidently speculate that most athletes are not on full athletic scholarship. Yes, there is academic money and other means but its not close to the indoor game and the full scholarship you'd get of you were offered.
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Post by blackmambabeto on Sept 21, 2023 11:45:42 GMT -5
anyone got the Fall schedule? if not I'll reach out to my peepz
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Post by bobinmd on Sept 21, 2023 12:48:14 GMT -5
I do not. Would like to though.
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Post by dunninla3 on Sept 21, 2023 12:52:34 GMT -5
What sort of funding are you referring to? If you mean salaries playing after college, I would agree. However, full scholarships for Beach for top 10 or so players each year are there, and half or 3/4 rides are there in numbers as well. I'm talking funding for beach scholarships. No team has 10 full scholarships...it's not allowed. 20 or so players per team and a MAX of 6 full scholarships if you are fully funded. Some D1 schools have 2....some have 0. I'm going to confidently speculate that most athletes are not on full athletic scholarship. Yes, there is academic money and other means but its not close to the indoor game and the full scholarship you'd get of you were offered. OK, understood. I'm supposing that 1s are on full, 2s on 3/4, 3s and 4s are on half scholarships, leaving 1/2 remaining scholarship for flexibility.
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Post by pepperclove on Sept 21, 2023 13:15:37 GMT -5
Dain has talked about this - beach is an equivalency sport (I think that's the phrasing) so most athletes get fractional scholarships whereas indoor is a head-count sport so it has full scholarships. I doubt it's as simple as the better players get the most money, probably a lot of calculations about who can get academic money (or need-based at schools with more non-athletic resources) and whose family can pay.
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