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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 4, 2023 22:28:24 GMT -5
Rainelle Jones says less with more words than any other volleyball announcer I've ever heard. If BTN wants to grow viewership, they need better announcers. How about getting an ex coach (ie Terry Petitte, Russ Rose) rather than a player who just got her first job after graduation. They are trying to grow an announcer pool that appeals to the viewership. Old guys are not the ticket. There is still some way to go for Rainelle. She has to work on the in game content. But her natural delivery is actually quite approachable. We'll see if she can master the other elements.
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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 4, 2023 23:35:52 GMT -5
Strange. Robinson hitting from the left and temi on the right. Devyn gets blocked by a 5-7 setter. I had absolutely wanted this formation. Clearly Devyn didn't do well her first time out on it but as I detailed in this post I feel like it would alleviate the passing woes in one of our two big problem formations (the formations where Franklin and TTA are passing side by side). Most teams*, in fact, invert their opposites and outsides in rotation 1 serve receive, so this idea is nothing new, but Sheffield has traditionally chosen a stack formation instead in that rotation to allow the outside hitter (who is technically front right) to pass in area 5 (back left) and then stay hitting on the left. There's no way Sheffield does this in a game if he isn't considering it, but we'll see if the idea has legs or not. I'd like to see him stick with it a bit, but if Devyn just can't get comfortable on the left side then the experiment will be short-lived. *I have no idea if it is actually most teams other than by my casual observations, but as far as I can tell most teams have a serve receive rotation where their opposite hits on the left and there's really only one reason that it would happen.
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 5, 2023 4:50:01 GMT -5
Good to get the sweep and keep rolling.
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Post by savannahbadger on Oct 5, 2023 7:44:28 GMT -5
Speaking of rolling… TTA with her 3rd straight match with 10+ kills. Good to see her getting going!
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Post by mplssetter on Oct 5, 2023 7:57:32 GMT -5
If BTN wants to grow viewership, they need better announcers. How about getting an ex coach (ie Terry Petitte, Russ Rose) rather than a player who just got her first job after graduation. They are trying to grow an announcer pool that appeals to the viewership. Old guys are not the ticket. There is still some way to go for Rainelle. She has to work on the in game content. But her natural delivery is actually quite approachable. We'll see if she can master the other elements. Those "old guys" have more volleyball knowledge in their pinky than most of us will ever have. I would rather have someone who can comment on strategy and technique than someone who just says words and makes no sense. She has a lovely voice, but I don't think she knows what she's talking about.
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Post by wiscvball on Oct 5, 2023 8:03:23 GMT -5
I am really enjoying seeing this new lineup gel over the past few weeks. Sure, there were some duh plays that went down that shouldn’t have… but:
* GG looks much more comfortable in this role and she has been adding a lot of value to the passing and defensive rotations that she’s been in, not to mention continued OOS setting excellence.
* CC and Julia’s serving has taken a big step up and consistently causes problems for opponents.
* Smrek looks more fluid and confident than I can remember her in the past. She’s on track for a monster season.
* nice to see TTA exert herself a little more offensively. Still wish for a bit more from her, but moving in the right direction. I still shudder anytime a ball makes it to her in serve receive.
* I wish they would set Booth more… there were so many rallies last night when she was in the front row and a transition ball was played up to a spot where a setter could easily have gotten her a look, but they went outside or to the right side instead. Her blocking and lateral movement has been great the last few weeks, though.
* I feel like the badgers are really getting into a groove dominating at the net. There are moments where they may not be getting blocks, but they are just in total control of what’s going on at the net. There were so many moments where Iowa would tip and Smrek, Booth, Robinson, Crawford, etc… would just throw the tip down or back on their side of the court. It was reminiscent of players protecting the rim in basketball… just get it out of here type stuff.
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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 5, 2023 9:08:53 GMT -5
I went back and looked at the three plays where Devyn was left side. And in my opinion there was as much setter misconnection there (first set short, second one too far back) as mi%*$#s. So my speculation is that it could be a practice time issue - with the 6-2 we just don't have time to install everything in preseason and so there was a lack of reps there. I hope they don't scrap it - because I also noticed that, given a free field of vision and a full responsibility, that TTA put up two pretty good passes and one adequate one out of those three plays.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2023 9:32:02 GMT -5
I went back and looked at the three plays where Devyn was left side. And in my opinion there was as much setter misconnection there (first set short, second one too far back) as mi%*$#s. So my speculation is that it could be a practice time issue - with the 6-2 we just don't have time to install everything in preseason and so there was a lack of reps there. I hope they don't scrap it - because I also noticed that, given a free field of vision and a full responsibility, that TTA put up two pretty good passes and one adequate one out of those three plays. It's gonna be a slooooow go of it attempting to shoehorn Devyn into that kind of role I feel. Speaking of the left side and to the matter of volleyball rosters I wonder why it doesn't specify whether a pin/OPP/middle is either a rightie or a leftie? How many left sides are actually left handed? How much of a difference is it for Devyn who is used to a different position and a different body position hitting from the right versus the left. Now when a player learns a position for years I guess its pretty ingrained but if you have to be versatile after a lengthy stay at one position I'm thinking its a lengthy process.
In baseball it is rare but there is a small percentage of 'switch hitters' bat from the left and right side. I guess I don't pay close attention but is this not a thing in volleyball? Would it even be a benefit to develop in that manner?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2023 9:51:25 GMT -5
Just watched a replay this morning. Iowa up 17-15 in the first set playing a really aggressive style and the Leftside were carving up Wisconsin. Was pretty impressive. Then Iowa losses their passing and all goes to hell. I like how Iowa goes on attack especially against these ranked teams. But passing has to stay intact and setting to.
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Post by volleyball90 on Oct 5, 2023 10:03:35 GMT -5
I went back and looked at the three plays where Devyn was left side. And in my opinion there was as much setter misconnection there (first set short, second one too far back) as mi%*$#s. So my speculation is that it could be a practice time issue - with the 6-2 we just don't have time to install everything in preseason and so there was a lack of reps there. I hope they don't scrap it - because I also noticed that, given a free field of vision and a full responsibility, that TTA put up two pretty good passes and one adequate one out of those three plays. It's gonna be a slooooow go of it attempting to shoehorn Devyn into that kind of role I feel. Speaking of the left side and to the matter of volleyball rosters I wonder why it doesn't specify whether a pin/OPP/middle is either a rightie or a leftie? How many left sides are actually left handed? How much of a difference is it for Devyn who is used to a different position and a different body position hitting from the right versus the left. Now when a player learns a position for years I guess its pretty ingrained but if you have to be versatile after a lengthy stay at one position I'm thinking its a lengthy process.
In baseball it is rare but there is a small percentage of 'switch hitters' bat from the left and right side. I guess I don't pay close attention but is this not a thing in volleyball? Would it even be a benefit to develop in that manner?
I once played against an ambidextrous Setter/Opp (they played a 6-2 and he hit when in front row) and it was so cool to see. It doesn’t have much benefit besides novelty as it would be hard for a hitter to switch hands mid approach and get the same power, but he would swing with right when hitting outside and swing with left from rightside.
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Post by robtearle on Oct 5, 2023 10:14:29 GMT -5
The couple points where Devyn hit at the left pin were in the third set when UW was in serve-receive in rotation 1; Izzy back-right, having just served, putting Devyn positionally at the front-left. In the other two sets when they were on serve-receive in rotation 1, they played things 'normally'. But in the third set, Iowa had 'spun the dial' such that their best server, Urquhart, was serving.
My guess is that so as to not add to the 'difficulty' of receiving Urquhart's serves, instead of having Devyn running across the court from left to right while the back row was trying to get to the ball, they just left her on the left side. More a specific match-up thing than anything else.
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 5, 2023 10:22:43 GMT -5
im sorry but what is this female commentator saying please don't turn this into the Ranelle is a terrible commentator because she talks too much. We had that enough in a few other threads, she's new, she'll learn, at least she's not saying big overhand. Oh, she was not great for a whole host of other reasons beyond hogging the mic.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 5, 2023 10:37:13 GMT -5
The couple points where Devyn hit at the left pin were in the third set when UW was in serve-receive in rotation 1; Izzy back-right, having just served, putting Devyn positionally at the front-left. In the other two sets when they were on serve-receive in rotation 1, they played things 'normally'. But in the third set, Iowa had 'spun the dial' such that their best server, Urquhart, was serving. My guess is that so as to not add to the 'difficulty' of receiving Urquhart's serves, instead of having Devyn running across the court from left to right while the back row was trying to get to the ball, they just left her on the left side. More a specific match-up thing than anything else. This is a good point. Still, I feel like they have to be practicing that to employ it in a match. Probably a response to how susceptible we've been in that rotation to targeted serves. So we may see it more and more in the future.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Oct 5, 2023 10:39:34 GMT -5
I’m liking Jones’ enthusiasm for the game. She’s learning but I think she’s streets ahead of where Grace Loberg was at this point.
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Post by cyfan1965 on Oct 5, 2023 10:43:21 GMT -5
Even though I expected a sweep Iowa was much better than I thought they would be.
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