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Post by douglass9 on Oct 12, 2024 11:34:05 GMT -5
The people that play college volleyball are 18 to 23 old women. They have to play for the love of the game because they are not paid very much. I think it's ok to complain about the coaches but not any individual players. Players have a right to transfer and I think they should be able to do so without restrictions. (students can transfer anytime) Women's volleyball is the most exciting sport there is to watch. (the men need a higher net) People that spend most of their time complaining about players need to find a hobby. My put up or shut up bet on Shaffmaster still stands.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Oct 12, 2024 13:14:26 GMT -5
I was really pleased to see how much we were going to the middles last night. AND Melanie needs to set the quick closer to the net. Like, a lot. I saw Keegan just drop his head one time where Phoebe had to reach behind her. The set height/tempo is so much better, but too far off the net. That really should be an easy fix. It's an example of Mel's lack of pure setting prowess. Whatever it is she just doesn't "see" that limits her location sometimes. Coachable and hopefully remedied soon.
Of course a huge part of the middle involvement was the fact that they were passing well enough to be in system more than we've seen them in the past several matches. Wucherer actually had a couple in-system sets, and voila. She thundered them down. More of that, please.
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Oct 12, 2024 18:47:14 GMT -5
Another super clean match tonight from EVERYONE!!! The 2nd and 3rd performances are so promising! After this week performance, I would like to see MN sweeping the weekly awards.
Grote- POW
Mel- SOW
Awoleye- DPOW
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Post by clob on Oct 12, 2024 18:54:42 GMT -5
Agreed, that was a pretty clean match.
Phoebe just went off. Her post-game interview is pretty funny. She didn't realize that she had nine blocks until Mel told her in the second set.
Also, Keegan mentioned afterwards that Phoebe wasn't feeling so well last week and she rebounded. Wondering if the MN squad wasn't dealing with some sickness in LA (as in the reason why Julia was throwing up in a trash can).
Anyway, if Phoebe keeps playing like this... Between her and Minatee, when was the last time other teams were afraid of MN middles?
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Oct 12, 2024 19:42:25 GMT -5
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Post by mcmike on Oct 13, 2024 3:41:09 GMT -5
This was not the MD team that had 17 blocks and beat us in 5 last year.
My concerns expressed in the IN thread were clearly overblown.
Of particular note:
Acevedo scored on her 1 attack, a pipe.
Hanson had a few? as well, but it is hard not to be envious of the Beason blast to end set 1, or at 14-15 in set 5 vs Purdue (great match).
It was good to see MN exercising its back row attack.
Also sweet were MN service runs: in set 2 Acevedo with 7, and Grote with a 3.
After a MN sideout to go up 19-17 Alex had a 4 pt run to seal the sweep.
I believe Keegan has set a benchmark for MN vis a vis sideouts at 60%
The inverse therefore, is your willingness to keep the opponent's serving efficiency at 40%.
You don't want them to score a point on their serve more than 4x in 10 serves.
I would assume that he would be somewhat satisfied if everyone could hit 40% serve efficiency and would be very happy for 50%+
Without question Acevedo is MN's shining service star and must be over 60% now in efficiency for the year.
[edit] oops. MN won only 4 pts on her 15 serves vs IN per updated serving stats.
She subbed in 8x as Wookie was due to serve and MN scored 14pts 14/22 = 64%
Grote reached the service line 6 times. MN won points on 7 of her 13 serves = 54%
Z was the last MN server to reach the line 8 times. Twice MN scored their 25th point on her serve. MN won 5pts on her 11 serves = 45%
Shaff was always first to serve in the match and MN scored 5pts on her 8 = 5/13 38%
Hanson served 8 times and MN won points on 3. 38%
Wookie was swinging really well, getting nice high sets and missing blocking hands this weekend. She was blocked on her first swing vs Indiana on a too low set (i think). It was really nice to see her less 'tippy'
It was raised and seconded thirded and fourth or more that her non-conference H% of .172? may have been due to something physical.
13 2 32 .344 doubles the non-conf %
And then there is Phoebe. I will be surprised if her blocking performance doesn't get awards across the board.
B1G, Volleytalk,NCAA Michella, Volleymag
a little more to come on our sideout % and FBSOs in ro1 which, from the stands, seemed excellent.
One in particular was a Wookie pass that forced her off the court and off her feet, but was a 'dime'
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Oct 13, 2024 8:50:33 GMT -5
I just caught this in the replay during the first set, EE said that Mel had a surgery to her knee during the off season! That explains a lot with her movement and no knee brace this year. So happy for her!
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 13, 2024 8:53:54 GMT -5
20% of Minnesotans show their love for Minnesota sports through hate, because they've been burnt so many times they don't know any other way. Like a dog in the pound. So true.
2018 Gopher volleyball is a perfect case in point. Could not have been setup any better for a storybook season. Win the conference, then win the Natty, in front of a home crowd.
S__t the bed, at home, to a team that did not deserve to be in regional final (and rightfully got blown out 0-3).
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 13, 2024 8:57:03 GMT -5
I think it's ok to complain about the coaches but not any individual players. ahahahhahahhaahahahah 😂 Was this the fake bet where you wanted to still try to claim victory and win money if she made Honorable Mention? 😂 Put your money where your mouth is. All-American or bust. |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 13, 2024 8:58:25 GMT -5
Another super clean match tonight from EVERYONE!!! Good!
I'm glad we played really cleanly and got the double sweep ...... at home .... against IU and Maryland .... |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 13, 2024 9:00:33 GMT -5
I'll always hope for the best, but until they show otherwise, the 2024 team isn't any different than the 2023 team. Won't host, and won't make it past the first host at their place.
So I'm going to be guarded in how much of my emotions I invest in this year's squad.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Oct 13, 2024 9:02:52 GMT -5
I think it's ok to complain about the coaches but not any individual players. GET serious. |
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Oct 13, 2024 9:08:15 GMT -5
I'll always hope for the best, but until they show otherwise, the 2024 team isn't any different than the 2023 team. Won't host, and won't make it past the first host at their place. So I'm going to be guarded in how much of my emotions I invest in this year's squad. If the ONLY thing you're using as a measure for the quality of a season is how far they go into he NCAA tournament, then you may be right. I'm not even necessarily disagreeing that this measure is wrong. I think it probably is wrong, but it doesn't bug me much. I do disagree with the likelihood (of which you seem confident) that the Gophs won't make it past the first weekend of the tourney. I think it's an absolutely attainable aspiration to make it to the sweet 16 this year for this squad, perhaps beyond. And even if they don't, they've already had better wins and avenged awful losses compared to last year. So, one could reasonably argue it's a better-quality season (an argument I'd support). |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 13, 2024 9:12:57 GMT -5
I'll always hope for the best, but until they show otherwise, the 2024 team isn't any different than the 2023 team. Won't host, and won't make it past the first host at their place. So I'm going to be guarded in how much of my emotions I invest in this year's squad. If the ONLY thing you're using as a measure for the quality of a season is how far they go into he NCAA tournament, then you may be right. I'm not even necessarily disagreeing that this measure is wrong. I think it probably is wrong, but it doesn't bug me much. I do disagree with the likelihood (of which you seem confident) that the Gophs won't make it past the first weekend of the tourney. I think it's an absolutely attainable aspiration to make it to the sweet 16 this year for this squad, perhaps beyond. And even if they don't, they've already had better wins and avenged awful losses compared to last year. So, one could reasonably argue it's a better-quality season (an argument I'd support). I buy this. And they were competitive at Creighton, from what I recall last year (though I might be remembering it wrong).
Yeah, "avenging" the awful loss at Maryland last year, by beating up on a very average team this year, I guess proves something. I suppose you'll feel the same way about beating up on Rutgers? So far the 2024 Gophers lose to good teams (typically in 5), with the notable exception being the Texas win, and beat the lower teams.
It's not necessarily not making the S16 that does it, but not even hosting the first round that to me is a bad sign. Of course, both are still on the table for this year.
Wish there was a conf tournament. That would give teams something to play for at the end, who won't win the regular season standings and probably can't improve their seeding much more than what it's already going to be.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Oct 13, 2024 9:21:31 GMT -5
If the ONLY thing you're using as a measure for the quality of a season is how far they go into he NCAA tournament, then you may be right. I'm not even necessarily disagreeing that this measure is wrong. I think it probably is wrong, but it doesn't bug me much. I do disagree with the likelihood (of which you seem confident) that the Gophs won't make it past the first weekend of the tourney. I think it's an absolutely attainable aspiration to make it to the sweet 16 this year for this squad, perhaps beyond. And even if they don't, they've already had better wins and avenged awful losses compared to last year. So, one could reasonably argue it's a better-quality season (an argument I'd support). I buy this. And they were competitive at Creighton, from what I recall last year (though I might be remembering it wrong). Yeah, "avenging" the awful loss at Maryland last year, by beating up on a very average team this year, I guess proves something. I suppose you'll feel the same way about beating up on Rutgers? So far the 2024 Gophers lose to good teams (typically in 5), with the notable exception being the Texas win, and beat the lower teams. It's not necessarily not making the S16 that does it, but not even hosting the first round that to me is a bad sign. Of course, both are still on the table for this year. Wish there was a conf tournament. That would give teams something to play for at the end, who won't win the regular season standings and probably can't improve their seeding much more than what it's already going to be.
I'll concede that sweeps of Maryland and Rutgers (if the latter were to happen) aren't particularly impressive. But by comparison to last year in losing to them both (while again conceding the roster was not fully healthy), it's a reasonable measure when replying to someone who's suggesting the seasons are equal. Glad to see you're already changing your tune a bit from the original declaration of "won't make it past the first host at their place" to the acknowledgment the possibility of hosting first round and/or reaching sweet 16 as "of course, both are still on the table this year." I enjoy robust disagreements/arguments. But please, at least do it in good faith. |
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