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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 19, 2024 22:38:00 GMT -5
How do you know whose choice it is? What part of what I said relies on knowing whose choice it was? I don't really care whose choice it was ... just that it was a choice made. Nah, it's fine. I've gotten over it. The choice has been made, is what it is. But then they shouldn't get to travel. |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 19, 2024 22:39:17 GMT -5
Imagine how bad it would be for recruiting if your program policy was that you don't travel with the team if you're redshirting. What a weird sense of entitlement.
You can't contribute to the team ... but demand to be treated special like any other player.
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 19, 2024 22:41:48 GMT -5
do you want to deprive player development? Huh? They're at the practices. Well we do have another setter. But that question is irrelevant. The redshirting decision has been made. Correct analogy is the practice squad, and they do not travel with the team. |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 19, 2024 22:42:58 GMT -5
What makes you think traveling is a perk? They have already traveled all over the country with their club teams. Sounds like fun doing homework on a bus, getting home at 4 in the morning and having a 8 am class. Trying to sleep in a noisy hotel room. Don't mention the food. Try again. Chartered planes, swagged out gear (travel suits, full Nike everything), nice hotel rooms. |
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Post by gopherhim on Oct 19, 2024 22:51:13 GMT -5
Imagine how bad it would be for recruiting if your program policy was that you don't travel with the team if you're redshirting. What a weird sense of entitlement.
You can't contribute to the team ... but demand to be treated special like any other player.
Start a thread for the whole board to see suggesting no coaches should let their redshirting players travel. I'll make some popcorn. |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 19, 2024 22:53:24 GMT -5
What a weird sense of entitlement.
You can't contribute to the team ... but demand to be treated special like any other player.
Start a thread for the whole board to see suggesting no coaches should let their redshirting players travel. I'll make some popcorn. It's the norm in college football.
Heck, a good number of non-redshirting players don't get to travel, either.
Volleyball shouldn't be special
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Post by gopher74 on Oct 19, 2024 23:27:08 GMT -5
I know this won't be a popular opinion. Not that I care. Redshirts should not get to travel. If you've purposefully declared that you won't be helping the team this season, then you should not get the perks. Dress for home games, fine. Don't worry, this would never happen. I'm sure Momma Swenson would be so far up Cook's a$$, if he actually tried to implement this, that she'd emerge from his spine like in The Substance. |
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Post by gopher74 on Oct 19, 2024 23:29:13 GMT -5
When you own a volleyball team and have budgetary responsibility for it, you may certainly put your opinion into practice. But, U of Minn and every other team thinks differently for reasons of team building and training. Enough discussion
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 19, 2024 23:30:25 GMT -5
U of Minn and every other team thinks differently The U's football redshirts don't travel.
Why should volleyball be special? It shouldn't
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Post by jeepers on Oct 20, 2024 5:21:16 GMT -5
I'm guessing you guys had a thought provoking, civilized Saturday evening chat.
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 20, 2024 7:50:01 GMT -5
I've brought up a very valid point that no one will be able to bring up a valid counter-point to, other than things like "well ... because that's how volleyball does it".
Redshirts should not travel in college sports. All sports, all levels. Should be an NCAA rule.
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Post by gophergirl on Oct 20, 2024 8:09:39 GMT -5
I've brought up a very valid point that no one will be able to bring up a valid counter-point to, other than things like "well ... because that's how volleyball does it". Redshirts should not travel in college sports. All sports, all levels. Should be an NCAA rule. No one can bring up a valid counter-point in your eyes because you have such a closed mind. You’ll never see someone else’s point of view. All I’ve ever seen you post is negative, argumentative comments that you keep repeating because you have this weird delusional belief that you’re right about everything. I’ve read several posters that had excellent counter points to your argument. Just because YOU don’t agree doesn’t mean they’re not valid. |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Oct 20, 2024 8:48:00 GMT -5
I've brought up a very valid point that no one will be able to bring up a valid counter-point to, other than things like "well ... because that's how volleyball does it". Redshirts should not travel in college sports. All sports, all levels. Should be an NCAA rule. No one can bring up a valid counter-point in your eyes because you have such a closed mind. You’ll never see someone else’s point of view. All I’ve ever seen you post is negative, argumentative comments that you keep repeating because you have this weird delusional belief that you’re right about everything. I’ve read several posters that had excellent counter points to your argument. Just because YOU don’t agree doesn’t mean they’re not valid. And for some seasons, that poster just has a particular obsession with setters, just moving from one to another. I bet he must hate his team setter so much and that setter might steal his bf or something. I still cannot believe what I just read here. |
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Oct 20, 2024 9:24:01 GMT -5
When a player doesn’t play for an entire season, they can apply for a redshirt and it is granted by the NCAA. Even though this is technically wrong (you don't have to apply for anything with the NCAA, with a regular redshirt ... you simply are given 5 years to participate in 4 seasons, from the git go), I wasn't talking about anything with the NCAA. I was talking about players who purposefully are not playing this year, even though we could use them, in order to have four more years to align with the 2025 class. By choice. Fine. But then you shouldn't get to travel and enjoy that perk of being on the team. Is traveling with the team that big of a 'perk'? It's like you're suggesting that a player who is redshirting is somehow harming the team with her decision, and as a consequence, they should not travel. As if a coach is going to be like "well, OK, I know we agreed together that we're going to save your eligibility this year, but it's gonna cost you." I imagine that the benefit it brings having the same players practicing/living/warming up together is a more important component to maintain than to implement some petty penalty that gleans zero value for the team. |
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Post by robtearle on Oct 20, 2024 9:39:40 GMT -5
I've brought up a very valid point that no one will be able to bring up a valid counter-point to, other than things like "well ... because that's how volleyball does it". Redshirts should not travel in college sports. All sports, all levels. Should be an NCAA rule. "Redshirts" travel with the team because the 'redshirt' can be removed at any time; because of injury or performance, the player 'redshirting' can be called on to enter a match or game, 'burning' the redshirt. These days, that probably more unusual that it used to be, but I expect it still happens from time to time. |
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