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Post by jagdpanther on Jun 18, 2024 19:30:52 GMT -5
Horrors!! ![](https://y.yarn.co/52df6b0a-a1b6-4f11-afd9-362b8a9eb1e2_text.gif)
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Post by jagdpanther on Jun 18, 2024 19:31:48 GMT -5
It's nice when you don't have to put up with the Nebraska and Wisconsin riff-raff. That feels like something I'd say *if* we weren't clearly worse than both teams right now. I mean, my hatred of Nebraska knows only one bound (hint: I actually will say their name, unlike the team I hate the most), and Wisky has risen quite high on the Permanent Hate list, but I do recognize they're both just straight-up better than we are right now and I can't really get too upset at their fans having as good of a time now as we did when we were *the* dominant program in the sport for nearly a decade.
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jun 21, 2024 1:18:15 GMT -5
And yet I would take Swindle over Bergen any day of the week. It isn't where you start the season but where you end it. Great coaches know that and give their high upside players time to adjust and learn the speed of the game. It pays off. Average coaches get frustrated quickly and pull young players with high upside from the line up and regret it down the road. You can talk about Swindle’s upside, her height, her offensive prowess, her serve etc as elements that make you prefer Swindle but saying you’d take Swindle purely because they won is crazy and completely ignores just how team-based volleyball is. Bergen is the better pure setter. Better decision-making, excellent The passing completely broke down, and if a setter can’t get to the ball because the back row can’t pass, how is that result relevant to a setter? Bergen is a second team AA for a reason and was consistent from day 1. Swindle is an amazing setter and has the potential to be elite but had some clear freshman setter moments. Stay on the BYU thread. From what I’ve seen of Starck, she could very well be elite too. But let’s let her grow without solely depending on her team’s skill to define her, please. And yet we see Swindle's blocking far exceeds Bergen and finally we see a national championship in Swindle's corner. Where you end not where you start .... no matter what pages you read!
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 21, 2024 22:21:19 GMT -5
You can talk about Swindle’s upside, her height, her offensive prowess, her serve etc as elements that make you prefer Swindle but saying you’d take Swindle purely because they won is crazy and completely ignores just how team-based volleyball is. Bergen is the better pure setter. Better decision-making, excellent The passing completely broke down, and if a setter can’t get to the ball because the back row can’t pass, how is that result relevant to a setter? Bergen is a second team AA for a reason and was consistent from day 1. Swindle is an amazing setter and has the potential to be elite but had some clear freshman setter moments. Stay on the BYU thread. From what I’ve seen of Starck, she could very well be elite too. But let’s let her grow without solely depending on her team’s skill to define her, please. And yet we see Swindle's blocking far exceeds Bergen and finally we see a national championship in Swindle's corner. Where you end not where you start .... no matter what pages you read! What you're not understanding is that bergen started AND ended the season as a better setter than swindle. Like I said, team A beating team B is quite possibly the worst reason for insinuating someone is better than someone else as an individual. Yes, swindle was a better blocker. Would be a lot more relevant if they were middles. Reilly sets the ball better (they're setters btw)
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jun 24, 2024 3:14:07 GMT -5
And yet we see Swindle's blocking far exceeds Bergen and finally we see a national championship in Swindle's corner. Where you end not where you start .... no matter what pages you read! What you're not understanding is that bergen started AND ended the season as a better setter than swindle. Like I said, team A beating team B is quite possibly the worst reason for insinuating someone is better than someone else as an individual. Yes, swindle was a better blocker. Would be a lot more relevant if they were middles. Reilly sets the ball better (they're setters btw) Score board Stanford! Two 5-1 setters play 3 rotations on the front row and block the OH's. Swindle had a lower opponents hitting % than Nebraska did, she was a better passer in the championship match and her setting was better. Swindle is a better setter than Bergen
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Post by princessavb on Jun 24, 2024 4:35:14 GMT -5
What you're not understanding is that bergen started AND ended the season as a better setter than swindle. Like I said, team A beating team B is quite possibly the worst reason for insinuating someone is better than someone else as an individual. Yes, swindle was a better blocker. Would be a lot more relevant if they were middles. Reilly sets the ball better (they're setters btw) Score board Stanford! Two 5-1 setters play 3 rotations on the front row and block the OH's. Swindle had a lower opponents hitting % than Nebraska did, she was a better passer in the championship match and her setting was better. Swindle is a better setter than Bergen 100% agree, Bergen is overrated no matter how many will disagree. Not saying she’s not an amazing setter cause she is,?but not just as good as people hype her up to be. Also hoping a specific fanbase does not see this oop..
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Post by jwvolley on Jun 24, 2024 4:40:52 GMT -5
What you're not understanding is that bergen started AND ended the season as a better setter than swindle. Like I said, team A beating team B is quite possibly the worst reason for insinuating someone is better than someone else as an individual. Yes, swindle was a better blocker. Would be a lot more relevant if they were middles. Reilly sets the ball better (they're setters btw) Score board Stanford! Two 5-1 setters play 3 rotations on the front row and block the OH's. Swindle had a lower opponents hitting % than Nebraska did, she was a better passer in the championship match and her setting was better. Swindle is a better setter than Bergen Mess
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 24, 2024 8:59:05 GMT -5
What you're not understanding is that bergen started AND ended the season as a better setter than swindle. Like I said, team A beating team B is quite possibly the worst reason for insinuating someone is better than someone else as an individual. Yes, swindle was a better blocker. Would be a lot more relevant if they were middles. Reilly sets the ball better (they're setters btw) Score board Stanford! Two 5-1 setters play 3 rotations on the front row and block the OH's. Swindle had a lower opponents hitting % than Nebraska did, she was a better passer in the championship match and her setting was better. Swindle is a better setter than Bergen I hope to god you don't coach or have any responsibility in this sport... yikes
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jun 26, 2024 13:31:13 GMT -5
Score board Stanford! Two 5-1 setters play 3 rotations on the front row and block the OH's. Swindle had a lower opponents hitting % than Nebraska did, she was a better passer in the championship match and her setting was better. Swindle is a better setter than Bergen Mess Maybe Bergen can win a special award as the best setter in a match where her team got run off the floor in a national championship? Is there an award like that? She is a robot setter and as the rules change and speed and athletic ability are more successful than purely robotic setting, where a setter who can't get to second OS ball isn't going to win as much as one who can, Bergen will beat up by a number of setters in terms of assists and athletic ability. Miner is another setter much better than Bergen. So is the ASU setter who left WSU better than Bergen.
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jun 26, 2024 13:33:54 GMT -5
Score board Stanford! Two 5-1 setters play 3 rotations on the front row and block the OH's. Swindle had a lower opponents hitting % than Nebraska did, she was a better passer in the championship match and her setting was better. Swindle is a better setter than Bergen I hope to god you don't coach or have any responsibility in this sport... yikes You would only say that if you have your Neb/Bergen blinders on! Texas and a host of other programs wouldn't say that. Objectivity is out the window with you!
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Post by slxpress on Jun 26, 2024 13:48:20 GMT -5
In.
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Post by vb on Jun 26, 2024 16:35:39 GMT -5
Oh, I thought this was the Penn State site
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Post by dc155 on Jun 26, 2024 20:10:13 GMT -5
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