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Post by VT Karen on Dec 18, 2023 1:37:18 GMT -5
Yikes! A biological male taking a scholarship from a woman. I don't like it.
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 18, 2023 1:37:35 GMT -5
Where were you on January 6th? How is this matter connected to the FBI false flag operation that occurred on January 6th?
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 18, 2023 2:40:41 GMT -5
Not according to the DSM-5. But feel free to keep stating your opinions that arenāt supported by science. That change, of course, like other changes to the DSM that were related to sexual orientation, was the result of political pressure from trans activists and their political allies. Can you separate "political pressure" from other rationales. Do you even understand or recognize that other rationales, like reducing suicidal ideation, could exist? If those exist, and plenty of published research suggests they do, why do you not value them?
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 18, 2023 4:05:45 GMT -5
That change, of course, like other changes to the DSM that were related to sexual orientation, was the result of political pressure from trans activists and their political allies. Can you separate "political pressure" from other rationales. Do you even understand or recognize that other rationales, like reducing suicidal ideation, could exist? If those exist, and plenty of published research suggests they do, why do you not value them? Are you suggesting that the "transition" from Gender Identity Disorder to Gender Dysphoria reduced the incidence of suicide?
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Post by OHVBKING on Dec 18, 2023 10:22:31 GMT -5
This thread needs to go to hell with whoever started it and all of you who are piling on the uneducated transphobia with it Agree this thread needs to go to hell.
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Post by medusa on Dec 18, 2023 10:26:48 GMT -5
John Cook would never go for this type of situation. He is too high on morality and ethics as he tends to speak about in his press conferences and wanting good clean kids.. good and clean are really strange words to use when stating why someone wouldn't want a trans player What does "Good and Clean" mean?
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Post by medusa on Dec 18, 2023 10:30:59 GMT -5
Where were you on January 6th? How is this matter connected to the FBI false flag operation that occurred on January 6th? Why are you bringing POLITICS into this ?
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 18, 2023 10:50:31 GMT -5
Not according to the DSM-5. But feel free to keep stating your opinions that arenāt supported by science. You are being disingenuous.Ā Ā This is from the American Psychiatric Association web site: With the publication of DSMā5 in 2013, āgender identity disorderā was eliminated and replaced with āgender dysphoria.ā This change further focused the diagnosis on the gender identity-related distress that some transgender people experience (and for which they may seek psychiatric, medical, and surgical treatments) rather than on transgender individuals or identities themselves.That change, of course, like other changes to the DSM that were related to sexual orientation, was the result of political pressure from trans activists and their political allies. I can assure you that as we slide further down that slippery slope, the APA will make similar changes to accommodate pedophiles.Ā It should also be noted that other professional psychiatric associations around the world still recognize Gender Identity Disorder as a mental disorder.Ā So you have provided a source that agrees with me that the term disorder is no longer appropriate in our society. Thanks for supporting my argument.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 11:30:53 GMT -5
Yikes! A biological male taking a scholarship from a woman. I don't like it. Only the scholarship part, or?
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Post by donut on Dec 18, 2023 11:42:19 GMT -5
Yikes! A biological male taking a scholarship from a woman. I don't like it. Only the scholarship part, or? Imagine chiming in on page 43 just to +1 bigotry
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 18, 2023 11:49:33 GMT -5
well thats because she was not considered an elite swimmer at all before transitioning, very average in for D1 for a male but now considered elite as a female I can't believe I have to say that on a board dedicated to women sports full of examples of extraordinarily exceptional athletes. I understand that the male-female divide is useful in organizing sports because it accounts on average for a lot of very real differences, and it applies to most people. But the biological determination of sex is actually quite complex so that divide does not account for nearly all of the differences, and it doesn't apply to everyone. There are people with XX chromosomes that present as male, for instance, in most cases because one X chromosome just happens to have a genetic transposon that carries the hormonal regulatory pathway that converts non differentiated gonads into male ones. Because sex determination involves hormones, environmental context also plays a role in humans. More generally, there are whole groups of organisms where biological sex is determined by temperature during development, where biological sex flips during life history, sometimes based purely on social on context cues, where the genetic mechanisms determining sex vary among related organisms and re-evolve repeatedly among lineages. Thank you for your well thought out response. The only thing I question where the topic of XX and XY are concerned is that you said that the biological sex of groups of organisms can be determined by temperature. While this is true, unless humans happen to be one of those organisms, Iām not sure how relevant that fact is. As for males who are XX, I highly doubt that their physical development is the same as an individual who is XY. If they want to compete with XX, I say āLet āem.ā they meet the criteria (This of course is the hypothetical criteria that I have in mind) And while gender can be considered a social construct, XX,XY is not. It is biological fact and not a bad basis to categorize people for physical competition. imo
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Post by DanGarion on Dec 18, 2023 12:21:02 GMT -5
Wow... let's post articles that outs a child, how brave of a website to do such a thing.
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 18, 2023 13:18:32 GMT -5
How is this matter connected to the FBI false flag operation that occurred on January 6th? Why are you bringing POLITICS into this ? I'm not the one who first mentioned J6. BTW, everything is political. If you don't understand that, you are very naive.
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 18, 2023 13:20:35 GMT -5
You are being disingenuous. This is from the American Psychiatric Association web site: With the publication of DSMā5 in 2013, āgender identity disorderā was eliminated and replaced with āgender dysphoria.ā This change further focused the diagnosis on the gender identity-related distress that some transgender people experience (and for which they may seek psychiatric, medical, and surgical treatments) rather than on transgender individuals or identities themselves.That change, of course, like other changes to the DSM that were related to sexual orientation, was the result of political pressure from trans activists and their political allies. I can assure you that as we slide further down that slippery slope, the APA will make similar changes to accommodate pedophiles. It should also be noted that other professional psychiatric associations around the world still recognize Gender Identity Disorder as a mental disorder. So you have provided a source that agrees with me that the term disorder is no longer appropriate in our society. Thanks for supporting my argument. It's perfectly appropriate, because it is a disorder, regardless of the spineless behavior of the APA.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 18, 2023 13:55:47 GMT -5
So you have provided a source that agrees with me that the term disorder is no longer appropriate in our society. Thanks for supporting my argument. It's perfectly appropriate, because it is a disorder, regardless of the spineless behaviorĀ of the APA.Ā So youāre more of a medical expert than the APA? Got it. Must be nice to know more than everyone about everything.
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