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Post by staticb on Dec 20, 2023 23:10:54 GMT -5
So you'd never let your daughter play coed volleyball? Co-ed and women’s volleyball is two different things in my opinion. So...is it a safety issue? Help me understand.
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Post by luckydawg on Dec 20, 2023 23:38:23 GMT -5
IF that were true, do you really think any college coach would risk messing with team unity and the eventual mass exodus of players? I will make the leap that most coaches have a much better read on what their players think than all VT posters in this thread combined. Why would their players even have to know? Potential recruits spend time with current players during their campus weekend visits. This allows the recruit to learn about the team culture and see if she think a she would like it there. At the same time, the hosts are evaluating the recruit and will tell the coach if they think she is a good fit. As for "why would they know?", maybe Google to learn about who they will be hosting? If the recruit's background has managed to stay off VT and other media, maybe they won't know.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 23:52:57 GMT -5
It’s fairly obvious who knows and has worked with female college athletes and who hasn’t. The vast majority accept and love their trans sisters. Some of you don’t realize how many female college athletes are part of the lgbtq community. Riley Gaines is the exception and is cashing in on naive conservatives. That’s why you know her name. It’s a grift. She is not the exception. She is in the majority. Just because people you know may accept it doesn’t make it the majority. Naive conservatives huh. They’re liberals and independents that feel this way also. It’s not a party thing as many want to make it out to be. I like people like you who are always blaming others for exactly what your doing. Many were feared by being attacked or canceled if they went against the “then “ narrative. She was just one of the first to have the guts to stand up regardless of what may come her way. That’s strength. But guess what, she has started waking the majority up. Furthermore if you don’t think she has a legit gripe then your living in fantasy world. Lia Thomas went from rank 462 in men to number 1 in women but sure there’s no differences whatsoever. Give me. a break. I can name many sports where a trans female has come in and shattered biological females world records
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 21, 2023 0:03:35 GMT -5
It’s fairly obvious who knows and has worked with female college athletes and who hasn’t. The vast majority accept and love their trans sisters. Some of you don’t realize how many female college athletes are part of the lgbtq community. Riley Gaines is the exception and is cashing in on naive conservatives. That’s why you know her name. It’s a grift. She is not the exception. She is in the majority. Just because people you know may accept it doesn’t make it the majority. Naive conservatives huh. They’re liberals and independents that feel this way also. It’s not a party thing as many want to make it out to be. I like people like you who are always blaming others for exactly what your doing. Many were feared by being attacked or canceled if they went against the “then “ narrative. She was just one of the first to have the guts to stand up regardless of what may come her way. That’s strength. But guess what, she has started waking the majority up. is there any evidence that she is in the majority? I asked someone else, and they didn’t reply. I didn’t know if there was a survey conducted or something.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 21, 2023 0:08:24 GMT -5
It’s fairly obvious who knows and has worked with female college athletes and who hasn’t. The vast majority accept and love their trans sisters. Some of you don’t realize how many female college athletes are part of the lgbtq community. Riley Gaines is the exception and is cashing in on naive conservatives. That’s why you know her name. It’s a grift. She is not the exception. She is in the majority. I don't think you have any support for this statement other than your vibes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 0:08:54 GMT -5
She is not the exception. She is in the majority. I don't think you have any support for this statement other than your vibes. Time will show
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 21, 2023 0:14:14 GMT -5
I don't think you have any support for this statement other than your vibes. Time will show So, vibes then. Got it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 0:21:01 GMT -5
There’s nothing that shows the other way. Just gut instinct. Kinda like the masses that wanted the defund the police that never was. Was presented like that what majority wanted when that was never true. Presenting a minority as the fake majority allows leaders to do whatever the hell they want. It’s an illusion. Take the minority and make it 100 percent of the coverage so it’s all anyone sees to give the illusion it’s what everyone wants so people think everyone else wants it’s so whatever and doesn’t fight it. This is called having the wool pulled over one’s eyes. These leaders don’t believe the crap they’re peddling. It’s to divide people to take more power. Don’t bitch when these leaders turn on this nonsense when they get what they want. These people who think the leaders and corporations are in their side will dump them when there use is no longer needed. Don’t say you wernt warned. Like I said learn history cause this same cycle keeps getting repeated. Power and control. In the end it always ends up back at that over and over and always eventually ends the same way. Idiots that always believe they are the ones that can and should control human nature.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 21, 2023 1:12:31 GMT -5
There’s nothing that shows the other way. Just gut instinct. Kinda like the masses that wanted the defund the police that never was. Was presented like that what majority wanted when that was never true. Presenting a minority as the fake majority allows leaders to do whatever the hell they want. It’s an illusion. Take the minority and make it 100 percent of the coverage so it’s all anyone sees to give the illusion it’s what everyone wants so people think everyone else wants it’s so whatever and doesn’t fight it. This is called having the wool pulled over one’s eyes. These leaders don’t believe the crap they’re peddling. It’s to divide people to take more power. Don’t bitch when these leaders turn on this nonsense when they get what they want. These people who think the leaders and corporations are in their side will dump them when there use is no longer needed. Don’t say you wernt warned. Like I said learn history cause this same cycle keeps getting repeated. Power and control. In the end it always ends up back at that over and over and always eventually ends the same way. Idiots that always believe they are the ones that can and should control human nature. “Was presented like that what majority wanted when that was never true” - just like the inaccurate way you represented Lia Thomas’s swimming career a few posts ago, despite about 10 posts on this thread showing that that ranking as a male isn’t wholly true. She was ranked in the top 10!!! in one event even.
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Post by molokaiboi on Dec 21, 2023 1:15:52 GMT -5
Co-ed and women’s volleyball is two different things in my opinion. So...is it a safety issue? Help me understand. No.. I believe that transgender individuals who transition from male to females shouldn’t be allowed to compete in women’s volleyball. I don’t think it’s fair for a male to transition two years before college and be considered a female athlete. Biological males are built differently. Everyone knows that in elementary and middle school, males are obviously stronger than females. Biological females and males have different body structures. They have to perform with menstrual cycles, breast etc., How is it fair to grow up as a female all your life and have a “trans-woman” take opportunities from biological women. Biological females deserve a shot at the little scholarships that’s available to and for them.
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 21, 2023 1:31:18 GMT -5
I'm not the one who first mentioned J6. BTW, everything is political. If you don't understand that, you are very naive. I hope for the lord's sake, you get banned For what? Disagreeing with you?
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Post by staticb on Dec 21, 2023 1:33:02 GMT -5
So...is it a safety issue? Help me understand. No.. I believe that transgender individuals who transition from male to females shouldn’t be allowed to compete in women’s volleyball. I don’t think it’s fair for a male to transition two years before college and be considered a female athlete. Biological males are built differently. Everyone knows that in elementary and middle school, males are obviously stronger than females. Biological females and males have different body structures. They have to perform with menstrual cycles, breast etc., How is it fair to grow up as a female all your life and have a “trans-woman” take opportunities from biological women. Biological females deserve a shot at the little scholarships that’s available to and for them. I get it. I do see your POV that you don't think it's fair. In regards to the latter question--sports aren't fair. There comes a time in our sports career where we just run into someone more physically gifted than us. Maybe it's because the were born a biological male, maybe it's because they are taller or have more fast twitch muscle fibers or better bone structure. To me, it's a lesson to be learned--sports (and life) are inherently unfair. For me, I just don't understand why this hill is one to die on I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 2:22:58 GMT -5
There’s nothing that shows the other way. Just gut instinct. Kinda like the masses that wanted the defund the police that never was. Was presented like that what majority wanted when that was never true. Presenting a minority as the fake majority allows leaders to do whatever the hell they want. It’s an illusion. Take the minority and make it 100 percent of the coverage so it’s all anyone sees to give the illusion it’s what everyone wants so people think everyone else wants it’s so whatever and doesn’t fight it. This is called having the wool pulled over one’s eyes. These leaders don’t believe the crap they’re peddling. It’s to divide people to take more power. Don’t bitch when these leaders turn on this nonsense when they get what they want. These people who think the leaders and corporations are in their side will dump them when there use is no longer needed. Don’t say you wernt warned. Like I said learn history cause this same cycle keeps getting repeated. Power and control. In the end it always ends up back at that over and over and always eventually ends the same way. Idiots that always believe they are the ones that can and should control human nature. “Was presented like that what majority wanted when that was never true” - just like the inaccurate way you represented Lia Thomas’s swimming career a few posts ago, despite about 10 posts on this thread showing that that ranking as a male isn’t wholly true. She was ranked in the top 10!!! in one event even. www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/a-look-at-the-numbers-and-times-no-denying-the-advantages-of-lia-thomas/Plenty of articles with exact same info . They’re plenty of articles from many different sources that have these exact same rankings.
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Post by HappyVolley on Dec 21, 2023 3:14:03 GMT -5
No.. I believe that transgender individuals who transition from male to females shouldn’t be allowed to compete in women’s volleyball. I don’t think it’s fair for a male to transition two years before college and be considered a female athlete. Biological males are built differently. Everyone knows that in elementary and middle school, males are obviously stronger than females. Biological females and males have different body structures. They have to perform with menstrual cycles, breast etc., How is it fair to grow up as a female all your life and have a “trans-woman” take opportunities from biological women. Biological females deserve a shot at the little scholarships that’s available to and for them. I get it. I do see your POV that you don't think it's fair. In regards to the latter question--sports aren't fair. There comes a time in our sports career where we just run into someone more physically gifted than us. Maybe it's because the were born a biological male, maybe it's because they are taller or have more fast twitch muscle fibers or better bone structure. To me, it's a lesson to be learned--sports (and life) are inherently unfair. For me, I just don't understand why this hill is one to die on I guess. So, if you are a female athlete and you are going to lose at some point, you might as well lose to a biological male. Is that your position?
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Post by medusa on Dec 21, 2023 12:12:41 GMT -5
I hope for the lord's sake, you get banned For what? Disagreeing with you? Read your post and tell me there's no politics in your comments.
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