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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 1, 2024 21:57:28 GMT -5
I agree with passing. Yes we got aced up 7 times however Saige didn’t get aced once and Lola got aced once. Take that with a grain of salt because Texas served at Sarah the whole match to break her down. Saige has not been bad. She passed a 2.4 against Louisville. The experience factor is starting to kick in for Saige and it’s building confidence. Saige had a total of four serve-receive chances. Schumacher 21 chances, aced the one time. Orzol nine, TSC four, no aces against. Frank had 46, with three aces against. Devyn aced once, two "Team" aces against. Texas was not afraid of TSC. They were afraid of Franklin so they pounded her. We absolutely need some balance between the two outsides. Franklin started rough, but she was passing dimes from then until near the very end of the match. I was impressed. |
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 1, 2024 22:00:01 GMT -5
Saige had a total of four serve-receive chances. Schumacher 21 chances, aced the one time. Orzol nine, TSC four, no aces against. Frank had 46, with three aces against. Devyn aced once, two "Team" aces against. Texas was not afraid of TSC. They were afraid of Franklin so they pounded her. We absolutely need some balance between the two outsides. Franklin started rough, but she was passing dimes from then until near the very end of the match. I was impressed. I did see some positives from TSC, though. I hope she can avoid the net violations with more experience. This is a tough situation for her coming in, to say the least. |
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Post by tacojohn on Sept 1, 2024 22:01:04 GMT -5
"And I don't see any of them putting the work in to close that gap quite honestly. It's hard for me to picture anybody taking that part of the game away from her. They're getting outworked.
"From a serve receive standpoint, we've got a bunch that are pretty darn close to each other. It changes from day to day and week to week who I see doing that, and I don't see anybody putting in the work where I know for sure how that's going to end up."
I don't have a problem with sending this message in the gym or in private. He absolutely should be if that is what he is seeing. I just don't think it is productive to be calling out his first-year players in public.
I assume he already told them in the gym and they aren't doing it so this is the next option. I hope he told them or it would be messed up to go straight to the public. Really surprising to me that they seemed to wilt away at the end. Texas put the hammer down and WI just took it and got stomped. Again. Who is the leader on the team? Who's the person who gathers everyone and sets them straight or calms them down? Or fires them up? I'm not sure there is one right now. There are 4 returning All Americans but I don't see any of them doing it on the court, not sure it is in their personality to do it. Orzol isn't it, Crawford maybe? But not really. The fact that Sheff feels he had to call the young people out kind of leads me to believe that we don't have the player leaders that should be doing that in the first place. So he had to do it. Pure speculation. Edit: this could be one of the most interesting seasons in sheffs career. No idea what happens from here. |
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Post by badgervb982597 on Sept 1, 2024 22:35:37 GMT -5
Texas match Points scored during the serve of server: Charlie: 4 points scored, 9 times serve lost Orzol: 3 points scored, 10 times serve lost GG: 8 points scored, 9 times serve lost Smrek: 1 points scored, 9 times serve lost Franklin: 6 points scored, 9 times serve lost Devyn: 2 points scored, 6 times serve lost CC: 2 points scored, 2 times serve lost Schumacher: 1 point scored, 4 times serve lost ----------- Sideout percents by server for the year (lower number the better) Charlie: 0.643 Orzol: 0.625 GG: 0.594 Smrek: 0.833 Franklin: 0.621 Devyn: 0.789 CC: 0.500 Schumacher: 0.800 I think there may be a mistake in the calculations here, Smrek only served two balls the whole match which were in the first set (lost both) after that Lola was subbing in for Smrek to serve and continue playing BR |
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Post by badgerguru on Sept 1, 2024 22:57:56 GMT -5
At the game today I had some incoming badger recruits walk past me. Quest, Tarnow, Horner, & 1 more that I didn’t quite see
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Post by robtearle on Sept 1, 2024 23:20:04 GMT -5
Texas match Points scored during the serve of server: Charlie: 4 points scored, 9 times serve lost Orzol: 3 points scored, 10 times serve lost GG: 8 points scored, 9 times serve lost Smrek: 1 points scored, 9 times serve lost Franklin: 6 points scored, 9 times serve lost Devyn: 2 points scored, 6 times serve lost CC: 2 points scored, 2 times serve lost Schumacher: 1 point scored, 4 times serve lost ----------- Sideout percents by server for the year (lower number the better) Charlie: 0.643 Orzol: 0.625 GG: 0.594 Smrek: 0.833 Franklin: 0.621 Devyn: 0.789 CC: 0.500 Schumacher: 0.800 I think there may be a mistake in the calculations here, Smrek only served two balls the whole match which were in the first set (lost both) after that Lola was subbing in for Smrek to serve and continue playing BR Thanks. That's what I get for doing the numbers while watching the Phillies and Braves in extra innings. :-o Texas match Points scored during the serve of server: Charlie: 4 points scored, 9 times serve lost Orzol: 3 points scored, 10 times serve lost GG: 8 points scored, 9 times serve lost Smrek: 0 points scored, 2 times serve lost Franklin: 6 points scored, 9 times serve lost Devyn: 2 points scored, 6 times serve lost CC: 2 points scored, 2 times serve lost Schumacher: 1 point scored, 7 times serve lost ----------- Sideout percents by server for the year (lower number the better) Charlie: 0.643 Orzol: 0.625 GG: 0.594 Smrek: 0.800 Franklin: 0.621 Devyn: 0.789 CC: 0.500 Schumacher: 0.846 |
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Post by slxpress on Sept 1, 2024 23:25:14 GMT -5
I think there may be a mistake in the calculations here, Smrek only served two balls the whole match which were in the first set (lost both) after that Lola was subbing in for Smrek to serve and continue playing BR Thanks. That's what I get for doing the numbers while watching the Phillies and Braves in extra innings. :-o Texas match Points scored during the serve of server: Charlie: 4 points scored, 9 times serve lost Orzol: 3 points scored, 10 times serve lost GG: 8 points scored, 9 times serve lost Smrek: 0 points scored, 2 times serve lost Franklin: 6 points scored, 9 times serve lost Devyn: 2 points scored, 6 times serve lost CC: 2 points scored, 2 times serve lost Schumacher: 1 point scored, 7 times serve lost ----------- Sideout percents by server for the year (lower number the better) Charlie: 0.643 Orzol: 0.625 GG: 0.594 Smrek: 0.800 Franklin: 0.621 Devyn: 0.789 CC: 0.500 Schumacher: 0.846 Can you explain to me how you’re calculating GG’s sideout percentage? Without understanding your methodology 8 points with 9 points lost seems like it would be much closer to 50% than it is, but I’m sure it’s because I’m misunderstanding something. |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 1, 2024 23:28:06 GMT -5
Thanks. That's what I get for doing the numbers while watching the Phillies and Braves in extra innings. :-o Texas match Points scored during the serve of server: Charlie: 4 points scored, 9 times serve lost Orzol: 3 points scored, 10 times serve lost GG: 8 points scored, 9 times serve lost Smrek: 0 points scored, 2 times serve lost Franklin: 6 points scored, 9 times serve lost Devyn: 2 points scored, 6 times serve lost CC: 2 points scored, 2 times serve lost Schumacher: 1 point scored, 7 times serve lost ----------- Sideout percents by server for the year (lower number the better) Charlie: 0.643 Orzol: 0.625 GG: 0.594 Smrek: 0.800 Franklin: 0.621 Devyn: 0.789 CC: 0.500 Schumacher: 0.846 Can you explain to me how you’re calculating GG’s sideout percentage? Without understanding your methodology 8 points with 9 points lost seems like it would be much closer to 50% than it is, but I’m sure it’s because I’m misunderstanding something. 8 won, 9 lost was for the Texas match. 0.594 is cumulative: Louisville and Texas combined. |
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Post by slxpress on Sept 1, 2024 23:35:21 GMT -5
Can you explain to me how you’re calculating GG’s sideout percentage? Without understanding your methodology 8 points with 9 points lost seems like it would be much closer to 50% than it is, but I’m sure it’s because I’m misunderstanding something. 8 won, 9 lost was for the Texas match. 0.594 is cumulative: Louisville and Texas combined. That makes complete sense. Thank you. Thank you for doing these, btw. I always loved reading them last year. You also did the breakdown for points scored with each setter and I was always stunned at how even it seemed. The data helps when “gut feel” gets it wrong. Which is more than we realize. |
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Sept 1, 2024 23:45:48 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why are there TWO rotations where our front row is literally TSC, Charlie, and a middle (either Devyn/Booth depending on how Sheff shuffles the middles)? I know TSC is supposed to be very raw coming in so I’m giving her some grace, but then why are we stranding Charlie then? She clearly does not trust TSC to terminate, like there was literally a sequence today where Charlie sets Frank 3 straight times out of the back row instead of TSC. I remember Dan Meske micced up a couple of days ago literally telling Louisville defense to just watch the Franklin bic when we were in those two rotations lmao. Why aren’t we switching the two OHs so TSC share the rotations with Smrek? Yes, I know Smrek is struggling but teams will still at least respect Smrek, which in turn gives more space to Frank (and prob lighten her load because Charlie will at least set Smrek) and even TSC to hit. Like what am I missing here??
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Post by honeybadger88 on Sept 1, 2024 23:55:22 GMT -5
You can't have Sarah having 60 swings a game since that can wear her out throughout the season and increase the chances of her ankle injury flaring up again. There needs to be more sets to Anna, Carter and Devyn, ideally high sets which Charlie hasn't gotten a grasp of as of yet.
Don't expect Anna and Sarah to get back to their best until mid season once they get their chemistry right with Charlie. Not every first year stars get it right first game, for Charlie it may take till midway through the season but that's just me being optimistic.
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Post by tablealgebra on Sept 2, 2024 0:16:26 GMT -5
I'm not implying better/worse as much as saying that a high-level men's club player is going to play in a different way than a college women's player. Different strengths and weaknesses, maybe better in some areas than others. Maybe in certain areas it becomes an even more valuable experience - but it's going to be different than playing against women, and thus less like a game experience. As someone who has been one of these 'college guys' in a high level women's gym, it's not really a difference. Coaches will usually just tell us to not max jump or not hit the ball as hard as we can when playing against the girls and that usually irons out the advantages that men have. Every once in a while we "accidentally  " do something they will likely never see in the ncaa, and coaches are quick to remind us not to. In my experience, I was told exactly what to emulate and how to play in order to prepare the starters for what they would be seeing in their next match. We're not going in there and playing our own personal style of volleyball against them, we're constantly changing depending on what the coach is asking for in that moment. I had to imitate aiko jones and Claire chausse in the same practice one time for example. Appreciate the perspective. |
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Post by rjaege on Sept 2, 2024 4:16:42 GMT -5
As someone who has been one of these 'college guys' in a high level women's gym, it's not really a difference. Coaches will usually just tell us to not max jump or not hit the ball as hard as we can when playing against the girls and that usually irons out the advantages that men have. Every once in a while we "accidentally " do something they will likely never see in the ncaa, and coaches are quick to remind us not to. In my experience, I was told exactly what to emulate and how to play in order to prepare the starters for what they would be seeing in their next match. We're not going in there and playing our own personal style of volleyball against them, we're constantly changing depending on what the coach is asking for in that moment. I had to imitate aiko jones and Claire chausse in the same practice one time for example. Appreciate the perspective. : emulating someone else and playing less than max are difficult. You are obviously an excellent athlete. I too appreciate your perspective on how male practice players fit in. THANKS! |
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Sept 2, 2024 8:48:57 GMT -5
Avid 2.0 posted the passing stats in the match thread. Adding them here so none of us have to go back there:
WISC
Franklin 2.40 (48)
Schumacher 2.33 (21)
Orzol 2.05 (10)
Damrow 1.80 (5)
2.26 as a team
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Post by swaggyp on Sept 2, 2024 9:15:56 GMT -5
Avid 2.0 posted the passing stats in the match thread. Adding them here so none of us have to go back there: WISC Franklin 2.40 (48) Schumacher 2.33 (21) Orzol 2.05 (10) Damrow 1.80 (5) 2.26 as a team I think this is pretty encouraging tbh. Sarah looked gassed by the 4th and that probably dropped her passing number a little bit. I'm surprised that Lola passed that much better than Saige but that's good! Can never have too much depth. |
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" do something they will likely never see in the ncaa, and coaches are quick to remind us not to.
