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Post by robtearle on Nov 23, 2024 23:02:44 GMT -5
Why are you so worked up about challenges? I understand being frustrated by the loss tonight, but "challenges" weren't gonna make the difference. The small things add up? Julia's net alone probably doesn't make a difference, a couple of overdigs here and there doesn't make a difference, a couple of SEs here and there doesn't make a difference, but added up they made a huge difference. Clearly, talent-wise, we went points-for-points with Nebraska for most of the matches we've played and then have crumbled at the end. That's typically where these seemingly small things make a big difference. And challenges are 100% within our control, unlike the other small things I listed. Challenges are in the refs' control. |
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Nov 23, 2024 23:06:33 GMT -5
The small things add up? Julia's net alone probably doesn't make a difference, a couple of overdigs here and there doesn't make a difference, a couple of SEs here and there doesn't make a difference, but added up they made a huge difference. Clearly, talent-wise, we went points-for-points with Nebraska for most of the matches we've played and then have crumbled at the end. That's typically where these seemingly small things make a big difference. And challenges are 100% within our control, unlike the other small things I listed. Challenges are in the refs' control. No, challenges are in our control. Refs can't review if we don't challenge. The rate-limiting step in this equation so far is Sheff actually challenging, not the refs not overturning a clear bad call. You have to bring the case to court first before you can say the case is in the court's control. |
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Post by pull3 on Nov 23, 2024 23:06:34 GMT -5
One of the challenges took the team absolutely pleading with him. I can't remember the other one. And at that point in set 3 on what could have been Robinson hitting in hit, he still had both challenges....and decided not to use it. Why? What does he have to lose? And my point was that Cook is not shy to challenges, to the point that he will even challenge on match point. Sheff seems like he has excessively shied away from challenging this year, even on very obvious calls. When match point is going against you, it isn't some act of bravery to challenge; it is quite literally "what do you have to lose?". (And I don't know if you know this, but a day or two later, the Badger video people came across a piece of video that showed Dana *absolutely* did not touch the ball. The refs got that one wrong; Cook should have lost that challenge, as well.) https://www.tiktok.com/@dana_rettke/video/7043970220599528751 To be fair, the TV cam showed her finger bent. Her dad saw it too.
It was a mystery.
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Post by Burly Ives on Nov 23, 2024 23:07:59 GMT -5
Eleven service errors, seven by players who would not be in the serve rotation normally. Would that have been enough to make 'the difference'? Probably not - Nebraska is very good, and VERY motivated to beat Wisconsin right now. But it sure didn't help. Orzol led the team in errors. This game was lost more in our poor passing then anything. Also too many nebraska attacks fell harmfully to the floor. |
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Post by robtearle on Nov 23, 2024 23:14:09 GMT -5
When match point is going against you, it isn't some act of bravery to challenge; it is quite literally "what do you have to lose?". (And I don't know if you know this, but a day or two later, the Badger video people came across a piece of video that showed Dana *absolutely* did not touch the ball. The refs got that one wrong; Cook should have lost that challenge, as well.) https://www.tiktok.com/@dana_rettke/video/7043970220599528751 To be fair, the TV cam showed her finger bent. Her dad saw it too.
It was a mystery.
To be accurate, the camera showed no such thing. Because no such thing occurred. |
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Post by northwoods on Nov 23, 2024 23:38:03 GMT -5
When the Badgers were at their best they owned points 20-25. Right now they aren’t playing consistently enough to do that against top competition….
Way too many errors coming in the red zone to beat teams that aren’t willing to beat themselves.
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Post by pull3 on Nov 23, 2024 23:41:21 GMT -5
To be fair, the TV cam showed her finger bent. Her dad saw it too.
It was a mystery.
To be accurate, the camera showed no such thing. Because no such thing occurred.
It really did. I saw it. And why would her dad argue with her?
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Post by pull3 on Nov 23, 2024 23:46:50 GMT -5
To be fair, the TV cam showed her finger bent. Her dad saw it too.
It was a mystery.
To be accurate, the camera showed no such thing. Because no such thing occurred.
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Post by dodger on Nov 23, 2024 23:48:00 GMT -5
When the Badgers were at their best they owned points 20-25. Right now they aren’t playing constantly enough to do that against top competition…. Way too many errors coming in the red zone to beat teams that aren’t willing to beat themselves. red zone green zone blie zone! Set one down 6-1. Set 2 up like 5-2 Neb aide out when wisc. Gets ball back 9-6. It was scoring run after scoring run j: beginning middle and end! But to be honest nebraska wasn't a-lot better! Landfair 1 more kill total than error total! Nebraska better out of back row than Ron row! Wis and nebraska stand and watch FB’s hit floor: wisc had 4 overpass opportunities set 1 and only scored 1 out of 4!! And for sure when your bro at this level is the serving target: you are in for a long eve of having to terminate OOS! And Frank looked tired? Not the same lift off feom floor and ball velocity?? Good thing is like texas last year play 6 matches in a row and have a couple beat mTches if year and National Champs!! Wisc has the arms so strap in and hope for their best at the wnd!!! 💪🏽💪🏽 |
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Post by swaggyp on Nov 23, 2024 23:59:55 GMT -5
When the Badgers were at their best they owned points 20-25. Right now they aren’t playing constantly enough to do that against top competition…. Way too many errors coming in the red zone to beat teams that aren’t willing to beat themselves. red zone green zone blie zone! Set one down 6-1. Set 2 up like 5-2 Neb aide out when wisc. Gets ball back 9-6. It was scoring run after scoring run j: beginning middle and end! But to be honest nebraska wasn't a-lot better! Landfair 1 more kill total than error total! Nebraska better out of back row than Ron row! Wis and nebraska stand and watch FB’s hit floor: wisc had 4 overpass opportunities set 1 and only scored 1 out of 4!! And for sure when your bro at this level is the serving target: you are in for a long eve of having to terminate OOS! And Frank looked tired? Not the same lift off feom floor and ball velocity?? Good thing is like texas last year play 6 matches in a row and have a couple beat mTches if year and National Champs!! Wisc has the arms so strap in and hope for their best at the wnd!!! 💪🏽💪🏽 i….agree with this? |
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Post by yodabadger on Nov 24, 2024 0:06:44 GMT -5
When match point is going against you, it isn't some act of bravery to challenge; it is quite literally "what do you have to lose?". (And I don't know if you know this, but a day or two later, the Badger video people came across a piece of video that showed Dana *absolutely* did not touch the ball. The refs got that one wrong; Cook should have lost that challenge, as well.) Great....so what did Sheff have to lose down 5 on the road after Robinson maybe hit out? When he had BOTH of his challenges remaining? In challenging maybe the ref make a bad call (just like in your example) to overturn EVEN if it wasn't in. We said the same thing. It looked like Dev's hit might have caught the end line. It was in front of the Neb bench, so was a long distance away from our team and coaches. The out call gave Neb a 21-16 lead. If, by chance, we win that challenge the score is 20-17 and we still reasonable hope (compared to almost no hope at 21-16).
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Post by vbdiva on Nov 24, 2024 0:19:30 GMT -5
Sarah's roll shots kill me! Especially the middle of the court, high, and right to the opponent. I understand sets could be off, the block is set correctly in front of her, mixing it up etc. ... I don't understand not hitting down the line, at 50% speed, over the setters/ds head... spread the court, she is so predictable. And if she's not scoring, Wisconsin, is not likely winning.
I didn't understand why there were no 3-1 balls to Smrek, just straight-up 1's, which caused her many attack errors. Anna and the 3-1 have been kryptonite to Nebraska's block.
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Nov 24, 2024 0:52:16 GMT -5
Well, we're almost certainly going to be in Nebraska's or Pitt's regional. If we're in Nebraska, let's hope the old sports adage "it's hard to a beat a team 3X in one season" hold true. If we're in Pitt's regional, pray that Booth can close the L-side block with Babcock as the oppo and that Babcock has a mortal day serving. Assuming we even get to the E8 of course. But assuming we can get to the E8 at least (and so far, we have been dominant over ranked teams in the teens outside of the Border Battle), we just need 3 hot matches to take it all.
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Post by gazelle1 on Nov 24, 2024 4:11:01 GMT -5
red zone green zone blie zone! Set one down 6-1. Set 2 up like 5-2 Neb aide out when wisc. Gets ball back 9-6. It was scoring run after scoring run j: beginning middle and end! But to be honest nebraska wasn't a-lot better! Landfair 1 more kill total than error total! Nebraska better out of back row than Ron row! Wis and nebraska stand and watch FB’s hit floor: wisc had 4 overpass opportunities set 1 and only scored 1 out of 4!! And for sure when your bro at this level is the serving target: you are in for a long eve of having to terminate OOS! And Frank looked tired? Not the same lift off feom floor and ball velocity?? Good thing is like texas last year play 6 matches in a row and have a couple beat mTches if year and National Champs!! Wisc has the arms so strap in and hope for their best at the wnd!!! 💪🏽💪🏽 i….agree with this? Eh, I often say similar things at 2am on a Saturday night after doing a few rounds of tequila shots. Just roll with it. |
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Post by pcll0718 on Nov 24, 2024 7:48:01 GMT -5
Oh, the uber crazy Nebraska fans make me giggle. I mean, what else do they have to live for besides their volleyball team? No major league sports, and let’s be real—Nebraska isn’t exactly Ivy League material either. Nebraska has a 79% acceptance rate compared to Wisconsin’s 49% fyi . Interesting angle on a volleyball fan board, well done. |
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